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Reply #240 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 12:00am

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:50pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:39pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:24pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:22pm:

Public/private? I think it's the home life/family support and encouragement that make the difference not the price of the schooling.

Exactly right. It's all about what happens at home.

I'd also add one of my things was not so much "peer socialisation" whence my home schooling in later high school. They associated with adults more than peers. Role models rather than me toos. Our friends were theirs and they sat at the table with us.

Hard work home schooling through the upper years Setanta. My hat is off to you.

It's a big, loving commitment at any age but the upper years present a huge challenge. How did you cover the different electives?

My old trade, friends trades and their old trades. Friends willing to help.

Sounds like a perfect, community based education.

Just proves the point. Whatever the form of education, with a supportive home life, great things can be achieved.

We have a fitter and turner in Melbourne, a software engineer for an Au Canberra based company and an almost nurse that is using nursing as a stepping stone to being a paramedic. Bummer that paramedic is so high on the suicide list. He's also considering the army reserve med corp.

I think they've done well.

Sounds like they have done very well.

Hell, as long as they are happy, right?

Well done getting your kids in uni from home schooling through the upper years. No small thing.

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Reply #241 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 4:54am

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:00pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 10:58pm:

Maria won't like that will she?

wait until she learns that I went to a catholic school Grin

Every single person I know who is aged 30 onwards and who's gone to a Catholic high school, has come out of that system damaged in some way, shape or form.

Every single poor bastard.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #242 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 4:56am Johnsmith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:10pm: Maria's an over educated idiot, she makes up stories and when when can't back them, she goes on a personal attack ... she just makes herself look foolish by doing so! No she's not! She's just over a few of you!
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Reply #243 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 5:02am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:51pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

and you have posted no proof.

you asking for proof is like Hitler asking for compassion Cheesy

Even your attempt at insult is a blunt object. You possess no skills with words, no understanding of numbers and a truly appalling sense of personal injustice that colours ever dim thought you have.

You are the man who brings a pocket knife to a gun fight. And even then, it is a blunt blade. You are out argued, out fought and clearly, very outclassed.

True, I agree, I'm not very skillful at the written word ... and you, I agree, seem to have a knack for the written word , however that's neither here nor there, I'm not writing a novel or asking you to buy my book

it realtiy and facts that you struggle with Cheesy

Clever people can impart their opinions, beliefs and discoveries with a bare minimum of competence and often with skill. You possess neither. Your limited IQ often struggles with the difference between facts and opinions and when it doesn't, fails to digest the facts anyhow.

You have only one blunt blade in that pocket knife of yours: arguing and disagreeing. You don't know why and you have no understanding of the topic, but you sure can disagree. After all, that requires almost no intelligence at all. There are others on here I disagree with enormously, but they are capable of creating an opposing argument. You however ARE the opposing argument and a very pitiful one at that.

This skill at writing is not talent. It is not ability honed to a point. It is instead the kind of skill one develops in a private school that determines that EVERY student will write in the top 5%. EVERY student will have an exemplary understanding of basic maths and business concepts. Schools that teach Shakespeare as well as Rowling, Latin as well as Chinese. A school that considers obedience and respect, politeness and sympathy to be far more useful in life than teaching a kid how to check the pressure on the bike tyre or to care for a pet while barely being able to give change on a dollar without a calculator.

If you want to know WHY parents spend money on private school then look at me and then at you. I was not the genius kid or the natural student. I had to work HARD and LONG. I had teachers that helped me do that. They polished my work and taught me to be my best and then to find a bit more. I was encourage, cajoled and most of all, TAUGHT. My Masters degree came far easier because the private school had taught me study and life habits some of my fellow students struggled with.

I am the product of a private school. You are not.

Oh dear, that post will only engender anger and jealousy around here.

Prepared to be crucified for being honest.

PS. I was happy to read it though

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Reply #244 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 5:08am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

So in summary, the only people who condemn private schools are the lazy and poor lefties who think it is a truly dreadful thing that parents should be assisted in providing first-rate education. And naturally, they think the purpose of government is to penalise the well-off for their hard work, education and success so that the poor can be rewarded for... nothing at all.

In summary?

They're jealous.

Oh well. Too bad Grin

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Reply #245 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:06am

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:10pm:

Maria's an over educated idiot, she makes up stories and when when can't back them, she goes on a personal attack ... she just makes herself look foolish by doing so!

You think she's over-educated?

I think she's read a lot and understood little. Reeks to me of somebody overcompensating for a lack of education.

you know how it is ... sometimes a little knowledge can do a lot of damage.

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Reply #246 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:09am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 4:56am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:10pm:

Maria's an over educated idiot, she makes up stories and when when can't back them, she goes on a personal attack ... she just makes herself look foolish by doing so!

No she's not!

She's just over a few of you!

oh yes she is.

Of course she's over a few of us, calling her on her lies all the time makes life hard for her Grin

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Reply #247 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:11am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 5:08am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

So in summary, the only people who condemn private schools are the lazy and poor lefties who think it is a truly dreadful thing that parents should be assisted in providing first-rate education. And naturally, they think the purpose of government is to penalise the well-off for their hard work, education and success so that the poor can be rewarded for... nothing at all.

In summary?

They're jealous.

Oh well. Too bad Grin

Not at all ... jealous of what? Not sure if you've noticed, but many who argue AGAINST govt. of funding private schools went to a private school .... what have they to be jealous off? Her pension? Grin

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Reply #249 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:43am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 4:54am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:00pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 10:58pm:

Maria won't like that will she?

wait until she learns that I went to a catholic school Grin

Every single person I know who is aged 30 onwards and who's gone to a Catholic high school, has come out of that system damaged in some way, shape or form.

Every single poor bastard.

How many do you know? How many do you know who went elsewhere? How do you define damaged? How many people do you know 30+ who are NOT damaged in some way, shape or form?

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Reply #250 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:45am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 10:00pm:

People with Master's Degrees need to apply for a pension now? Wow - something failing badly in the education and employment systems.........

Now Longy - he was studying for a Ph.D in mathematics.. that explained his brilliant ripostes to any suggestion that LNP mathematics was flawed or biased.. or simply spin...... he could do that by name-calling and flubbing along about how the other party could not understand - he's that good!

I believe he was also going to be applying for an aged pension.... education is not all it seems..... it seems..... Shocked

AS you do so often, this statement is confused and pointless. A Master's Degree does not come with a bucket of money for life or did you not know that?

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Reply #251 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:48am

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:39pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:24pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:22pm:

Public/private? I think it's the home life/family support and encouragement that make the difference not the price of the schooling.

Exactly right. It's all about what happens at home.

I'd also add one of my things was not so much "peer socialisation" whence my home schooling in later high school. They associated with adults more than peers. Role models rather than me toos. Our friends were theirs and they sat at the table with us.

Hard work home schooling through the upper years Setanta. My hat is off to you.

It's a big, loving commitment at any age but the upper years present a huge challenge. How did you cover the different electives?

My old trade, friends trades and their old trades. Friends willing to help.

I wasn't aware that Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics were considered 'trades'. Who taught your kids these subjects?

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Reply #252 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:50am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 5:02am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:51pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

and you have posted no proof.

you asking for proof is like Hitler asking for compassion Cheesy

Even your attempt at insult is a blunt object. You possess no skills with words, no understanding of numbers and a truly appalling sense of personal injustice that colours ever dim thought you have.

You are the man who brings a pocket knife to a gun fight. And even then, it is a blunt blade. You are out argued, out fought and clearly, very outclassed.

True, I agree, I'm not very skillful at the written word ... and you, I agree, seem to have a knack for the written word , however that's neither here nor there, I'm not writing a novel or asking you to buy my book

it realtiy and facts that you struggle with Cheesy

Clever people can impart their opinions, beliefs and discoveries with a bare minimum of competence and often with skill. You possess neither. Your limited IQ often struggles with the difference between facts and opinions and when it doesn't, fails to digest the facts anyhow.

You have only one blunt blade in that pocket knife of yours: arguing and disagreeing. You don't know why and you have no understanding of the topic, but you sure can disagree. After all, that requires almost no intelligence at all. There are others on here I disagree with enormously, but they are capable of creating an opposing argument. You however ARE the opposing argument and a very pitiful one at that.

This skill at writing is not talent. It is not ability honed to a point. It is instead the kind of skill one develops in a private school that determines that EVERY student will write in the top 5%. EVERY student will have an exemplary understanding of basic maths and business concepts. Schools that teach Shakespeare as well as Rowling, Latin as well as Chinese. A school that considers obedience and respect, politeness and sympathy to be far more useful in life than teaching a kid how to check the pressure on the bike tyre or to care for a pet while barely being able to give change on a dollar without a calculator.

If you want to know WHY parents spend money on private school then look at me and then at you. I was not the genius kid or the natural student. I had to work HARD and LONG. I had teachers that helped me do that. They polished my work and taught me to be my best and then to find a bit more. I was encourage, cajoled and most of all, TAUGHT. My Masters degree came far easier because the private school had taught me study and life habits some of my fellow students struggled with.

I am the product of a private school. You are not.

Oh dear, that post will only engender anger and jealousy around here.

Prepared to be crucified for being honest.

PS. I was happy to read it though

To my mind, it is the point entirely.

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Reply #253 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:53am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:48am:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:39pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:24pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:22pm:

Public/private? I think it's the home life/family support and encouragement that make the difference not the price of the schooling.

Exactly right. It's all about what happens at home.

I'd also add one of my things was not so much "peer socialisation" whence my home schooling in later high school. They associated with adults more than peers. Role models rather than me toos. Our friends were theirs and they sat at the table with us.

Hard work home schooling through the upper years Setanta. My hat is off to you.

It's a big, loving commitment at any age but the upper years present a huge challenge. How did you cover the different electives?

My old trade, friends trades and their old trades. Friends willing to help.

I wasn't aware that Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics were considered 'trades'. Who taught your kids these subjects?

Wow....you're scratchy today maria.....is it PMT or 'the change', dear?

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Reply #254 - Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:57am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:53am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:48am:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:39pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:24pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 10^th, 2015 at 11:22pm:

Public/private? I think it's the home life/family support and encouragement that make the difference not the price of the schooling.

Exactly right. It's all about what happens at home.

I'd also add one of my things was not so much "peer socialisation" whence my home schooling in later high school. They associated with adults more than peers. Role models rather than me toos. Our friends were theirs and they sat at the table with us.

Hard work home schooling through the upper years Setanta. My hat is off to you.

It's a big, loving commitment at any age but the upper years present a huge challenge. How did you cover the different electives?

My old trade, friends trades and their old trades. Friends willing to help.

I wasn't aware that Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics were considered 'trades'. Who taught your kids these subjects?

Wow....you're scratchy today maria.....is it PMT or 'the change', dear?

Do you know what 'Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics' are or did you education mainly cover needlepoint and cooking?

You don't ask your friend the Plumber to teach your kids Maxwell's Laws or explain exothermic reactions and Integral Calculus.

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