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Reply #330 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:20am

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Home-schoolers are without exception, 'troubled' people.

Really? Perhaps you'll readily be able to name the very high profile well known Australian parents of well known kids who 'home school/ed.' You should have no trouble given your expertise.

LOL... you pretty much made my case for me. there are virtually NO well-known, high-profile home-schoolers. Ever thought about why?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #331 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:21am You never had kids either so that is irrelevant. I think you have never met anybody homeschooled.
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #332 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:22am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

Aussie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

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Home-schoolers are without exception, 'troubled' people.

Really? Perhaps you'll readily be able to name the very high profile well known Australian parents of well known kids who 'home school/ed.' You should have no trouble given your expertise.

LOL... you pretty much made my case for me. there are virtually NO well-known, high-profile home-schoolers. Ever thought about why?

No.

Why?

He lacks the capacity to think.

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #333 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:26am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

Aussie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

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Home-schoolers are without exception, 'troubled' people.

Really? Perhaps you'll readily be able to name the very high profile well known Australian parents of well known kids who 'home school/ed.' You should have no trouble given your expertise.

LOL... you pretty much made my case for me. there are virtually NO well-known, high-profile home-schoolers. Ever thought about why?

So, goal posts move yet again. We've gone from 'without exception' to 'virtually NO..'

Come on, you claim 'no exceptions,' yet you cannot name the parents (everyone in Australia would know of...and their kids) who home school/ed.

(You looking for yet another ban Jones?)

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #334 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:28am

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 8:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:54pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 7:02pm:

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Do you really think schools don't offer science and maths any more? And I don't know if they were EVER mandatory subjects in upper high school. Other than English I am unaware of them ever being mandatory.

True, you don't know but that dose not stop you from dumb arse making assertions of fact. I'll tell you a fact. Back in my day, what was then called Maths 1 and Maths 11 were mandatory in years 11 and 12, as was physics and chemistry ~ as was English. The only elective involved a choice between German, French or Technical Drawing (which was a thing basically about design drafting.)

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It seems rather astonishing when discussing topics like this to realise that perhaps very few of you went through high school which is why you are all so astonishingly ignorant of some things relating to education.

Have a look in here.

http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/8378396/8378396/Concert-Framed-Mirror-wit...

What century did you go to school? it certainly wasn't this or the last one. Or I am guessing you went to school in Queensland where 20th century teaching methods were yet to arrive.

Yeas, in Queensland, and I've already posted the list of what (some of) my Year 12 matriculating cohort even eventually became. That list did not suit your agenda so you had to resort to.....ummm....what is it........adhominem something or other?

And completely without proof and not even willing to state the YEAR of this supposed genius class.

Would it make a pinch of shyts difference if I did? Is that all you need to accept what I have said as the truth?

Actually...yeah.

School name and year thanks.

Or you're full of BS. Again.

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #335 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:29am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:48am: Of course not, I doubt either have met any homeschooled people, homeschooling is not common here. I agree, and that was my whole point. They saw someone watching 'Swamp People' or some such show, and assume all home schoolers are the same.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #336 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:30am I know a family where all three kids were home schooled, all three are completely normal, all with uni degrees, one is a photographer and a second finished med school two years ago
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #337 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:32am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:30am: I know a family where all three kids were home schooled, all three are completely normal, all with uni degrees, one is a photographer and a second finished med school two years ago Stop it, my sides are hurting from laughing so much!
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #338 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:33am

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:29am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:48am:

Of course not, I doubt either have met any homeschooled people, homeschooling is not common here.

I agree, and that was my whole point. They saw someone watching 'Swamp People' or some such show, and assume all home schoolers are the same.

Nope!

Wrong!

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38862 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #339 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:33am Come on "Maria." You ought be able to name those parents in a flash, given you reckon that without exception they are troubled. That narrows the filed, wot. High profile Australian parents, high profile kids....without exception, troubled. You don't know any high profile troubled parents, 'Maria?'
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #340 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:36am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:29am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:48am:

Of course not, I doubt either have met any homeschooled people, homeschooling is not common here.

I agree, and that was my whole point. They saw someone watching 'Swamp People' or some such show, and assume all home schoolers are the same.

Nope!

Wrong!

I doubt it!

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #341 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:36am What I find particularly hilarious about this topic is the fact that BOTH Aussie and Horseman went to private schools. Anyway....
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #342 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:38am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

I know a family where all three kids were home schooled, all three are completely normal, all with uni degrees, one is a photographer and a second finished med school two years ago

Stop it, my sides are hurting from laughing so much!

Umm, why?

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #343 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:38am

Karnal wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:20am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:42am:

the academic stuff taught at schools is not as important as the "real social dynamic"

i havent used algebra or calculus in the last few days, but the main thing schools teach is hopefully how to "think"

and hopefully the teachers are not caught up in "group think"

i would be wary of home schooling , if for no other reason then that you want to expose the child to as many "independant' thinkers as possible and to try to get them out of group think.

2 parents probably cant do that .

but are the private school teachers more "independant" then the public school teachers.

again , probably not, but a private school parent is "invested' in the outcome.
he's got his money on the line and that always leads to a better outcome.

if you spent $2 on a diet , you probably wont do as well as someone who spent $800 on a gym membership, $1000 on new clothes, $200 on diet pills, $500 on a nutri-bullett.

once people front the cash, they mentally enter a space where results become more important to them.

It's important that students are taught how to think, but rather worthless if they also cannot read, write and master the basics. And that is before we prepare kids for actual careers.

With subjects that don’t exist anymore.

Perhaps we can bring back jobs that don’t exist anymore too, eh?

How about, instead of funding pensions for rich retirees, we fund tea ladies and telex operators and typing pools?

Remember, dear, Australia is open for business.

Are you still seriously trying to suggest that Maths, Physics and Chemistry are not taught in schools now, troll?

No, dear, I'm suggesting that a subject called calculus and random archaic formulas (Maxwell's principle?) are not currently taught in schools.

I'm also suggesting that someone who would propose such archaic topics would have no idea of schools or education. It demonstrates that they don't teach and they don't have children who are learning. Most importantly, it demonstrates a very poor knowledge of mathematics, physics and chemistry.

I'd say such a person shouldn't be commenting on the subject of education, wouldn't you?

You really are acting like a clown, troll. Maxwell's equations on electromagnetism are discussed in the subject called PHYSICS, a topic you've apparently not heard of. Likewise, calculus forms a part of a topic called MATHEMATICS, another topic you are apparently unaware of. Both of these topics continue to be taught in High Schools around the world and even in Australia.

Your ignorance on matters of education are concerning, troll. Did you even attend high school?

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #344 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:39am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:55am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 8:20am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:02pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:42am:

the academic stuff taught at schools is not as important as the "real social dynamic"

i havent used algebra or calculus in the last few days, but the main thing schools teach is hopefully how to "think"

and hopefully the teachers are not caught up in "group think"

i would be wary of home schooling , if for no other reason then that you want to expose the child to as many "independant' thinkers as possible and to try to get them out of group think.

2 parents probably cant do that .

but are the private school teachers more "independant" then the public school teachers.

again , probably not, but a private school parent is "invested' in the outcome.
he's got his money on the line and that always leads to a better outcome.

if you spent $2 on a diet , you probably wont do as well as someone who spent $800 on a gym membership, $1000 on new clothes, $200 on diet pills, $500 on a nutri-bullett.

once people front the cash, they mentally enter a space where results become more important to them.

It's important that students are taught how to think, but rather worthless if they also cannot read, write and master the basics. And that is before we prepare kids for actual careers.

With subjects that don’t exist anymore.

Perhaps we can bring back jobs that don’t exist anymore too, eh?

How about, instead of funding pensions for rich retirees, we fund tea ladies and telex operators and typing pools?

Remember, dear, Australia is open for business.

Are you still seriously trying to suggest that Maths, Physics and Chemistry are not taught in schools now, troll?

No, dear, I'm suggesting that a subject called calculus and random archaic formulas (Maxwell's principle?) are not currently taught in schools.

I'm also suggesting that someone who would propose such archaic topics would have no idea of schools or education. It demonstrates that they don't teach and they don't have children who are learning. Most importantly, it demonstrates a very poor knowledge of mathematics, physics and chemistry.

I'd say such a person shouldn't be commenting on the subject of education, wouldn't you?

Total unadulterated bovine faecal matter!

Karnal does seem more troll-like than usual today.

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