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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #30 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

probably the best investment a parent can make.

beg, borrow or steal but get your kids mixing with the cream , as cream like behaviour is contagious.

and getting a leg up into the workforce is all about social circle, so the more cream you mix with, the more you will get opportunities from your cream-like classmates.

its not what you know, its who you know, and you want to be surrounding yourself with positive, dynamic, charged, optomisitic people .

public school teachers seem unionised, unmotivated, burnt out and beaten down.

this is no place for your children.

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

that is the only benefit to private schools, the circle of friends they make. As far as education goes in my opinion public is better.

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Reply #31 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:32pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

My Children do very well at public school....The last thing I would want for my children is to be indoctrinated into some self serving faith based bullshit....Giving religions tax free status is criminal IMO!!!

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-rich-vatican-so-wealthy-it-can-stumble-across-milli...

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And instead you pass on your personal prejudices to your kids. Well done!

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Reply #32 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:34pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:53am:

Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

Giving religions tax free status is criminal IMO!!!

..what about unions?

PS...and I'm not disagreeing

Gidday Swag....IMO unions should not get any tax free status either....Unions and the church should be allowed to claim for charity or community based work but pay tax on any profits like anyone else....I have no problem with people believing what ever they like as long as the taxpayer does not have to pay for their faith!!!

Huh

I'm fascinated to hear where you think churches make 'profits'. Go on... List for me all the massive Church owned businesses. They are very few and far between. Oh, let me guess. You want to include as profit the money that parishioners give? Well let's see how well that works out in the charity sector if they all have to pay tax on every dollar you give them which you have already paid tax on!

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #33 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:36pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Private schools coach students to pass exams and do well at NAPLAN etc. Then the student leaves school for Uni or work and the intense coaching is no longer there. Some can’t handle that.

When you come out of a good public school you are much more self reliant, a quality the fantasists Scoot would say is a rightard quality.

I went to a public school and finished year 12 with all second levels. My brother-in-law went to a private school and finished year 12 with all first levels. I passed my first year uni with credits and went on to get 2 degrees. He failed his first year 3 years in a row and never got a degree. Private schools are BS. Those who benefit from private schoos are are largely due to the old school tie network that develops around private schools and has very little to do with a superior education. No tax $$$$$ should ever go into private schools. Public schools should be free to all. If you are so elitist you need your kids to go to private schools then you should pay for it yourself. You want privileges then you pay for the priviliges.Simple really.

Nothing quite like taking a single example and drawing a policy out of it. Clearly you know NOTHING about private schools and the ignorance you display on virtually every topic you speak on here is testament to what your public school taught you.

All it gave you was a chip on your shoulder.

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Reply #34 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:51pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

probably the best investment a parent can make.

beg, borrow or steal but get your kids mixing with the cream , as cream like behaviour is contagious.

and getting a leg up into the workforce is all about social circle, so the more cream you mix with, the more you will get opportunities from your cream-like classmates.

its not what you know, its who you know, and you want to be surrounding yourself with positive, dynamic, charged, optomisitic people .

public school teachers seem unionised, unmotivated, burnt out and beaten down.

this is no place for your children.

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

that is the only benefit to private schools, the circle of friends they make. As far as education goes in my opinion public is better.

its also why all sensible business people get involved in charities and fund raisers etc.
you network with

1 successful people
2 people with an abundant mentality
3 givers not takers.

as i have said before, poor people should save up and take rich people out to dinner and pick their brains.
wisdom of the world available.
value at 3 x the price

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Reply #36 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:01pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

My Children do very well at public school....The last thing I would want for my children is to be indoctrinated into some self serving faith based bullshit....Giving religions tax free status is criminal IMO!!!

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-rich-vatican-so-wealthy-it-can-stumble-across-milli...

Angry

And instead you pass on your personal prejudices to your kids. Well done!

How would you know....I don't remember telling you anything about my children???

Huh

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Reply #37 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:03pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:32pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

My Children do very well at public school....The last thing I would want for my children is to be indoctrinated into some self serving faith based bullshit....Giving religions tax free status is criminal IMO!!!

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-rich-vatican-so-wealthy-it-can-stumble-across-milli...

Angry

And instead you pass on your personal prejudices to your kids. Well done!

and I suppose you've never told your kids they get a better education in private schools? Cheesy

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #38 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:04pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:51pm: its also why all sensible business people get involved in charities and fund raisers etc. I thought it was because they wanted to help whatever cause they were supporting!
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Reply #39 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:22pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:53am:

Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

Giving religions tax free status is criminal IMO!!!

..what about unions?

PS...and I'm not disagreeing

Gidday Swag....IMO unions should not get any tax free status either....Unions and the church should be allowed to claim for charity or community based work but pay tax on any profits like anyone else....I have no problem with people believing what ever they like as long as the taxpayer does not have to pay for their faith!!!

Huh

I'm fascinated to hear where you think churches make 'profits'. Go on... List for me all the massive Church owned businesses. They are very few and far between. Oh, let me guess. You want to include as profit the money that parishioners give? Well let's see how well that works out in the charity sector if they all have to pay tax on every dollar you give them which you have already paid tax on!

I posted a link to show the obscene profits made tax free by the church or did you ignore that???

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-rich-vatican-so-wealthy-it-can-stumble-across-milli...

You can also claim a tax deduction on charitable gifts which blows your crap about already paying tax out of the water!!!

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #40 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:43pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:36pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:47pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Private schools coach students to pass exams and do well at NAPLAN etc. Then the student leaves school for Uni or work and the intense coaching is no longer there. Some can’t handle that.

When you come out of a good public school you are much more self reliant, a quality the fantasists Scoot would say is a rightard quality.

I went to a public school and finished year 12 with all second levels. My brother-in-law went to a private school and finished year 12 with all first levels. I passed my first year uni with credits and went on to get 2 degrees. He failed his first year 3 years in a row and never got a degree. Private schools are BS. Those who benefit from private schoos are are largely due to the old school tie network that develops around private schools and has very little to do with a superior education. No tax $$$$$ should ever go into private schools. Public schools should be free to all. If you are so elitist you need your kids to go to private schools then you should pay for it yourself. You want privileges then you pay for the priviliges.Simple really.

Nothing quite like taking a single example and drawing a policy out of it. Clearly you know NOTHING about private schools and the ignorance you display on virtually every topic you speak on here is testament to what your public school taught you.

All it gave you was a chip on your shoulder.

My experience was consistent with Jovial Monk's claim that private schools coach students to pass exams and do well at NAPLAN etc. but do not actually give them a good education and therefore was worthwhile evidence to post.

I actually started my schooling in a private school and did my last 2 years in a public school and am therefore in a very good position to compare and can say without hesitation that my public school education was far superior. Indeed, consistent with monk's claim, my private school experience was focused on rote learning (to achieve good exam results - and thereby generate profits) instead of teaching students how to think for themselves. Indeed, over the years we have debated, your constant inability to construct informed logical arguments and your inability to draw even the most obvious conclusions causes me to think that you had a spoon fed private education without any effort given to teaching you how to actually think for yourself. The rote arguments you trot out here is testament to that.

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #42 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:48pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

probably the best investment a parent can make.

beg, borrow or steal but get your kids mixing with the cream , as cream like behaviour is contagious.

and getting a leg up into the workforce is all about social circle, so the more cream you mix with, the more you will get opportunities from your cream-like classmates.

its not what you know, its who you know, and you want to be surrounding yourself with positive, dynamic, charged, optomisitic people .

public school teachers seem unionised, unmotivated, burnt out and beaten down.

this is no place for your children.

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

that is the only benefit to private schools, the circle of friends they make. As far as education goes in my opinion public is better.

Way to go in destroying that claim simply by being the person who made it.

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #43 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:58pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:48pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

probably the best investment a parent can make.

beg, borrow or steal but get your kids mixing with the cream , as cream like behaviour is contagious.

and getting a leg up into the workforce is all about social circle, so the more cream you mix with, the more you will get opportunities from your cream-like classmates.

its not what you know, its who you know, and you want to be surrounding yourself with positive, dynamic, charged, optomisitic people .

public school teachers seem unionised, unmotivated, burnt out and beaten down.

this is no place for your children.

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

that is the only benefit to private schools, the circle of friends they make. As far as education goes in my opinion public is better.

Way to go in destroying that claim simply by being the person who made it.

you had a private education, right? it's obvious by the number of lies you consistently put out

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #44 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:28pm If Private schools weren't better than Public schools....then there'd be no private schools....
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