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Reply #360 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:54am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:52am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:46am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

I know a family where all three kids were home schooled, all three are completely normal, all with uni degrees, one is a photographer and a second finished med school two years ago

Stop it, my sides are hurting from laughing so much!

Umm, why?

Because your story is ridiculous. I've heard such 'stories' before and then it turns out they were home schooled until year 8 at which time they attended more and more 'at school' lessons until by year 12 they are the 'home schooled triumph' that actually attends school full-time.

Or do you want us to believe that a kid who gets into medicine with five 20s in high ranked subjects like maths, physics, chemistry, pure maths and English did all their learning at home with mum and her year 9 level schooling from 20 years previously?

Yes, because thats precisely what happened apart from the mum and year 9 level schooling thing.

Stop it.

It's getting funnier by the post! Grin

What the bugger are you dribbling about.

she doesn't know either!

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #361 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:55am John, we're talking about Aussies here. Oh and OZ Politics is the forum you're posting in...in case you're not aware
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #362 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:56am

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:52am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:46am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

I know a family where all three kids were home schooled, all three are completely normal, all with uni degrees, one is a photographer and a second finished med school two years ago

Stop it, my sides are hurting from laughing so much!

Umm, why?

Because your story is ridiculous. I've heard such 'stories' before and then it turns out they were home schooled until year 8 at which time they attended more and more 'at school' lessons until by year 12 they are the 'home schooled triumph' that actually attends school full-time.

Or do you want us to believe that a kid who gets into medicine with five 20s in high ranked subjects like maths, physics, chemistry, pure maths and English did all their learning at home with mum and her year 9 level schooling from 20 years previously?

Yes, because thats precisely what happened apart from the mum and year 9 level schooling thing.

Stop it.

It's getting funnier by the post! Grin

What the bugger are you dribbling about.

she doesn't know either!

Weird, I know its an anecdote, but it does seem to defy the suggestion that home schooling doesnt work. My opinion is that it comes down largely to the parents involved in the home schooling.

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #363 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:57am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:52am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:46am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

I know a family where all three kids were home schooled, all three are completely normal, all with uni degrees, one is a photographer and a second finished med school two years ago

Stop it, my sides are hurting from laughing so much!

Umm, why?

Because your story is ridiculous. I've heard such 'stories' before and then it turns out they were home schooled until year 8 at which time they attended more and more 'at school' lessons until by year 12 they are the 'home schooled triumph' that actually attends school full-time.

Or do you want us to believe that a kid who gets into medicine with five 20s in high ranked subjects like maths, physics, chemistry, pure maths and English did all their learning at home with mum and her year 9 level schooling from 20 years previously?

Yes, because thats precisely what happened apart from the mum and year 9 level schooling thing.

Stop it.

It's getting funnier by the post! Grin

What the bugger are you dribbling about.

It's hardly my fault if we have a post delay issue in this topic.

Check back....

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Reply #364 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:59am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:46am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

I know a family where all three kids were home schooled, all three are completely normal, all with uni degrees, one is a photographer and a second finished med school two years ago

Stop it, my sides are hurting from laughing so much!

Umm, why?

Because your story is ridiculous. I've heard such 'stories' before and then it turns out they were home schooled until year 8 at which time they attended more and more 'at school' lessons until by year 12 they are the 'home schooled triumph' that actually attends school full-time.

Or do you want us to believe that a kid who gets into medicine with five 20s in high ranked subjects like maths, physics, chemistry, pure maths and English did all their learning at home with mum and her year 9 level schooling from 20 years previously?

Yes, because thats precisely what happened apart from the mum and year 9 level schooling thing.

So they actually attended a high school then.

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #365 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:59am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:57am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:52am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:46am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

I know a family where all three kids were home schooled, all three are completely normal, all with uni degrees, one is a photographer and a second finished med school two years ago

Stop it, my sides are hurting from laughing so much!

Umm, why?

Because your story is ridiculous. I've heard such 'stories' before and then it turns out they were home schooled until year 8 at which time they attended more and more 'at school' lessons until by year 12 they are the 'home schooled triumph' that actually attends school full-time.

Or do you want us to believe that a kid who gets into medicine with five 20s in high ranked subjects like maths, physics, chemistry, pure maths and English did all their learning at home with mum and her year 9 level schooling from 20 years previously?

Yes, because thats precisely what happened apart from the mum and year 9 level schooling thing.

Stop it.

It's getting funnier by the post! Grin

What the bugger are you dribbling about.

It's hardly my fault if we have a post delay issue in this topic.

Check back....

How about you just restate it. All I can find is some reference to posting details, and I'm not going to do post private details on this forum.

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #366 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:00am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:46am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

I know a family where all three kids were home schooled, all three are completely normal, all with uni degrees, one is a photographer and a second finished med school two years ago

Stop it, my sides are hurting from laughing so much!

Umm, why?

Because your story is ridiculous. I've heard such 'stories' before and then it turns out they were home schooled until year 8 at which time they attended more and more 'at school' lessons until by year 12 they are the 'home schooled triumph' that actually attends school full-time.

Or do you want us to believe that a kid who gets into medicine with five 20s in high ranked subjects like maths, physics, chemistry, pure maths and English did all their learning at home with mum and her year 9 level schooling from 20 years previously?

Maria lol....all 3 have uni degrees.

1 is a ....wait for it...a photographer Grin

1 is.....wait for it....MIA Grin

1. You get uni degrees in arts photography.
2. The one who is supposedly MIA, chose to have a family and shes working as an admin assistant.

Convenient but lame comeback.

Thanks for playing.

I win.

You lose.

Again Tongue

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #367 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:01am

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:42am:

Aussie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

Come on "Maria." You ought be able to name those parents in a flash, given you reckon that without exception they are troubled. That narrows the filed, wot. High profile Australian parents, high profile kids....without exception, troubled.

Yeah, that lightening-fast lawyer brain of yours...

Even a dim-witted person would work out that the absence of home-schooled high-profile parents and kids are part of the proof.

I doubt you even stand out among other taxi drivers.

Part of the proof ehh Maria ... I don't know how many times I need to tell you to stop making crap up!

Bindi Irwin (Steve Irwin's daughter)
Maria Sharapova (tennis player)
Venus Williams (tennis player)
Serena Williams (tennis player)
Pro Hart (Australian artist)
Hanson (band)
Moffats (band)
Christina Aguileria (singer)
LeAnne Rimes (singer)
Justin Timberlake (singer)
Hillary Duff (singer/actress)
Whoopi Goldberg (actress)
Dakota Fanning (actress)
Jennifer Love Hewitt (actress)
Alan Alda (actor)
Frankie Muniz (child actor)
Agatha Christie (author)
CS Lewis (author)

And just for interest, here's a list of famous HSing "parents" :

Garth Brooks - country music singer
Michael Card - contemporary Christian songwriter
Duane G. Carey - NASA astronaut
Mike Farris - lawyer and co-founder of Home School Legal Defense
Association (HSLDA)
Robert Frost - Pulitzer Prize-winning poet
David Guterson - educator and author of Snow Falling on Cedars
Kimberly Hahn - Catholic apologist and author
Gregg and Sono Harris - pioneers in the modern Christian
homeschooling movement
Barbara Howe - Libertarian activist
Eric Jackson - Whitewater paddler
Christopher Klicka - attorney and Senior Counsel, Home School
Legal Defense Association (HSLDA)
Len Munsil - attorney, President of The Center for Arizona
Policy (CAP), and gubernatorial candidate
Paul Overstreet - musician, songwriter
Jada Pinkett - actress, wife of Will Smith
Kelly Preston - actress, wife of John Travolta
Rick Santorum - U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania
Mike Smith - lawyer and co-founder of HSLDA
Will Smith - actor
R.C. Sproul, Jr. - pastor, author of When You Rise Up: A
Covenantal Approach to Homeschooling
Stefan von Trapp - grandson of Captain von Trapp from The Sound
of Music
John Travolta - actor, pilot
Darrell Waltrip - NASCAR racer
Lisa Whelchel - former actress, "The Facts of Life", now a
pastor's wife and author

There are some great success stories of homeschooled people on this homeschooling site: http://www.sharebradenton.homestead.com/Famous.html

ARTISTS:
Claude Monet
Leonardo da Vinci
Jamie Wyeth
Andrew Wyeth
John Singleton Copley

INVENTORS:
Alexander Graham Bell
Thomas Edison
Alec Issigonis
Cyrus McCormick
The Wright Brothers

SCIENTISTS:
Blaise Pascal
Pierre Curie
Albert Einstein
Booker T. Washington
George Washington Carver

STATESMEN:
Winston Churchill
Konrad Adenauer
Benjamin Franklin
Patrick Henry
William Penn
Henry Clay

COMPOSERS & MUSICIANS:
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Anton Bruckner
Felix Mendelssohn
Francis Poulenc
Conlon Nancarrow
Irving Berlin
Yehudi Menuhin

WRITERS:
Agatha Christie
C.S. Lewis
George Bernard Shaw
Noel Coward
D.H. Lawrence
Hans Christian Anderson
Charles Dickens
Mark Twain
Margaret Mead
Sean O'Casey
Rumer Godden
Brett Harte
Phillis Wheatley
Mercy Warren
Pearl S. Buck

MISCELLANEOUS:
Charles Chaplin - Actor
Florence Nightingale - Nurse
John Burroughs - Naturalist
Charles Louis Montesquieu - Philosopher
Albert Schweitzer - Physician
George Rogers Clark - Explorer
Andrew Carnegie - Industrialist
Bill Ridell - Newspaperman
Will Rogers - Humorist
Tamara McKinney - World Cup Skier
Jim Ryan - World Runner
Ansel Adams - Photographer
John Stuart Mill - Economist
John Paul Jones - father of the American Navy
Clara Barton - started the Red Cross
Abigail Adams - wife of John Adams
Martha Washington - wife of George W.
Venus and Serena Williams

RELIGIOUS LEADERS:
Joan of Arc
Brigham Young
John & Charles Wesley
Jonathan Edwards
John Owen
William Cary
Dwight L. Moody
John Newton

The first list is a group of actress and sportspeople. Yep. real academic successes there!

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #368 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:03am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:46am:

Or do you want us to believe that a kid who gets into medicine with five 20s in high ranked subjects like maths, physics, chemistry, pure maths and English did all their learning at home with mum and her year 9 level schooling from 20 years previously?

What I was suggesting is that his mum was not year 9 level schooling.

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #369 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:03am

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:42am:

Aussie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:33am:

Come on "Maria." You ought be able to name those parents in a flash, given you reckon that without exception they are troubled. That narrows the filed, wot. High profile Australian parents, high profile kids....without exception, troubled.

Yeah, that lightening-fast lawyer brain of yours...

Even a dim-witted person would work out that the absence of home-schooled high-profile parents and kids are part of the proof.

I doubt you even stand out among other taxi drivers.

Part of the proof ehh Maria ... I don't know how many times I need to tell you to stop making crap up!

Bindi Irwin (Steve Irwin's daughter)
Maria Sharapova (tennis player)
Venus Williams (tennis player)
Serena Williams (tennis player)
Pro Hart (Australian artist)
Hanson (band)
Moffats (band)
Christina Aguileria (singer)
LeAnne Rimes (singer)
Justin Timberlake (singer)
Hillary Duff (singer/actress)
Whoopi Goldberg (actress)
Dakota Fanning (actress)
Jennifer Love Hewitt (actress)
Alan Alda (actor)
Frankie Muniz (child actor)
Agatha Christie (author)
CS Lewis (author)

And just for interest, here's a list of famous HSing "parents" :

Garth Brooks - country music singer
Michael Card - contemporary Christian songwriter
Duane G. Carey - NASA astronaut
Mike Farris - lawyer and co-founder of Home School Legal Defense
Association (HSLDA)
Robert Frost - Pulitzer Prize-winning poet
David Guterson - educator and author of Snow Falling on Cedars
Kimberly Hahn - Catholic apologist and author
Gregg and Sono Harris - pioneers in the modern Christian
homeschooling movement
Barbara Howe - Libertarian activist
Eric Jackson - Whitewater paddler
Christopher Klicka - attorney and Senior Counsel, Home School
Legal Defense Association (HSLDA)
Len Munsil - attorney, President of The Center for Arizona
Policy (CAP), and gubernatorial candidate
Paul Overstreet - musician, songwriter
Jada Pinkett - actress, wife of Will Smith
Kelly Preston - actress, wife of John Travolta
Rick Santorum - U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania
Mike Smith - lawyer and co-founder of HSLDA
Will Smith - actor
R.C. Sproul, Jr. - pastor, author of When You Rise Up: A
Covenantal Approach to Homeschooling
Stefan von Trapp - grandson of Captain von Trapp from The Sound
of Music
John Travolta - actor, pilot
Darrell Waltrip - NASCAR racer
Lisa Whelchel - former actress, "The Facts of Life", now a
pastor's wife and author

There are some great success stories of homeschooled people on this homeschooling site: http://www.sharebradenton.homestead.com/Famous.html

ARTISTS:
Claude Monet
Leonardo da Vinci
Jamie Wyeth
Andrew Wyeth
John Singleton Copley

INVENTORS:
Alexander Graham Bell
Thomas Edison
Alec Issigonis
Cyrus McCormick
The Wright Brothers

SCIENTISTS:
Blaise Pascal
Pierre Curie
Albert Einstein
Booker T. Washington
George Washington Carver

STATESMEN:
Winston Churchill
Konrad Adenauer
Benjamin Franklin
Patrick Henry
William Penn
Henry Clay

COMPOSERS & MUSICIANS:
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Anton Bruckner
Felix Mendelssohn
Francis Poulenc
Conlon Nancarrow
Irving Berlin
Yehudi Menuhin

WRITERS:
Agatha Christie
C.S. Lewis
George Bernard Shaw
Noel Coward
D.H. Lawrence
Hans Christian Anderson
Charles Dickens
Mark Twain
Margaret Mead
Sean O'Casey
Rumer Godden
Brett Harte
Phillis Wheatley
Mercy Warren
Pearl S. Buck

MISCELLANEOUS:
Charles Chaplin - Actor
Florence Nightingale - Nurse
John Burroughs - Naturalist
Charles Louis Montesquieu - Philosopher
Albert Schweitzer - Physician
George Rogers Clark - Explorer
Andrew Carnegie - Industrialist
Bill Ridell - Newspaperman
Will Rogers - Humorist
Tamara McKinney - World Cup Skier
Jim Ryan - World Runner
Ansel Adams - Photographer
John Stuart Mill - Economist
John Paul Jones - father of the American Navy
Clara Barton - started the Red Cross
Abigail Adams - wife of John Adams
Martha Washington - wife of George W.
Venus and Serena Williams

RELIGIOUS LEADERS:
Joan of Arc
Brigham Young
John & Charles Wesley
Jonathan Edwards
John Owen
William Cary
Dwight L. Moody
John Newton

Ah this is good. you are actually going to claim Einstein was home-schooled? I am currently reading his biography. You are wrong. DEAD WRONG. Which probably means the rest of your list is wrong as well.

PS, having a home-tutor in mathematics does not make you home-schooled. Einstein attended school.

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #370 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:05am mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:01am: The first list is a group of actress and sportspeople. Yep. real academic successes there! don't move the goalposts .. you said they were all nutters. As for their success .. you wish your kids could be even half as successful as anyone of those
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #371 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:05am So.....in summary: Private High School grads : 1. Horseman 2. Aussie 3. Maria Public High School grads : 1. John 2. Scoot 3. Lisa Jones (yr 11 & yr 12 selective public high school) Anyone/anything I've missed?
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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #372 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:05am Aussie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 9:51am: Now that Mr Smith has posted that list, I may as well name the parents I have been referring to. Steve and Terri Irwin. Who raised a couple of physicists and doctors right?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38862 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #373 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:06am Weren't we talking about troubled parents, without exception ~ not academic success? Or, is that you doing yet another 180 degree shift after having your arse handed to you, yet again?
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Reply #374 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:07am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:05am:

So.....in summary:

Private High School grads :

1. Horseman
2. Aussie
3. Maria

Public High School grads :

1. John
2. Scoot
3. Lisa Jones (yr 11 & yr 12 selective public high school)

Anyone/anything I've missed?

Me 5 years at selective public high school, last year at private high school.

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