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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #45 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 1:14am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:48pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

probably the best investment a parent can make.

beg, borrow or steal but get your kids mixing with the cream , as cream like behaviour is contagious.

and getting a leg up into the workforce is all about social circle, so the more cream you mix with, the more you will get opportunities from your cream-like classmates.

its not what you know, its who you know, and you want to be surrounding yourself with positive, dynamic, charged, optomisitic people .

public school teachers seem unionised, unmotivated, burnt out and beaten down.

this is no place for your children.

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

that is the only benefit to private schools, the circle of friends they make. As far as education goes in my opinion public is better.

Way to go in destroying that claim simply by being the person who made it.

You mean Tony and Joey didn't go to the same school? Damn - and all along I thought they stuffed this country by being old bum-chums instead of pure natural born idiots.

I've known enough of that kind of twerp to know I wouldn't trust them to run a chook raffle at a Rugby game...

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85402 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #46 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 1:15am Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:28pm: If Private schools weren't better than Public schools....then there'd be no private schools.... User pays - let them pay for it and then we'll see, eh? Socialism is perfectly all right when you are receiving it.... but not when someone else is....
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16644 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #47 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:48am Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:28pm: If Private schools weren't better than Public schools....then there'd be no private schools.... An analogy from the past? If Beta was better there would be no VHS.
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #48 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 7:45am

Setanta wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:48am:

Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:28pm:

If Private schools weren't better than Public schools....then there'd be no private schools.... Cheesy

An analogy from the past? If Beta was better there would be no VHS.

Yes, it's the natural law of all things. Amelioration swiftly overtakes obsolescence. Cheesy

PS (explains the gap between rich and poor too)

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #49 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 7:48am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 1:15am:

Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:28pm:

If Private schools weren't better than Public schools....then there'd be no private schools.... Cheesy

User pays - let them pay for it and then we'll see, eh? Socialism is perfectly all right when you are receiving it.... but not when someone else is.... Grin

I pay my tax so my kids are entitled to the same education dollar as the next citizen whether they go to private or public schools. Sad

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Reply #50 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:03am

its just a self fulfilling prophesy.

parents who really care about their kids and who really value education will tend to send their kids to private schools.

parents who are on the booze or the drugs or the pokies or the dole or the xbox or the internet porn will tend to want money for these things and tend not to be willing to pay up.

so, no matter whether we had the same level of funding and the same quality of teachers at the start of every year YOU ARE GETTING A DIFFERENT COHORT OF KIDS entering each system.

dont try and deny that the kids of druggies and gamblers and dole recipients and the mentally ill and those who have just got out of jail are the going to be easier to teach then those who have parents who read to them every night, play scrabble with them, take them on overseas trips , pay for private tutoring, are great role models and love and cherish their kids,

That arguement just wont fly.

even if we swapped all the teachers in the public into the private sector i would still pay for kids to go private because they will be with motivated, switched on , functional kids who should have better social and emotional intelligence.

in fact, the higher the fees the better as it puts you up from second division to first division to the premier league.

work out what you can afford and then put you kids in the most expensive school you can find .

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Reply #51 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:35am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:03am:

its just a self fulfilling prophesy.

parents who really care about their kids and who really value education will tend to send their kids to private schools.

parents who are on the booze or the drugs or the pokies or the dole or the xbox or the internet porn will tend to want money for these things and tend not to be willing to pay up.

so, no matter whether we had the same level of funding and the same quality of teachers at the start of every year YOU ARE GETTING A DIFFERENT COHORT OF KIDS entering each system.

dont try and deny that the kids of druggies and gamblers and dole recipients and the mentally ill and those who have just got out of jail are the going to be easier to teach then those who have parents who read to them every night, play scrabble with them, take them on overseas trips , pay for private tutoring, are great role models and love and cherish their kids,

That arguement just wont fly.

even if we swapped all the teachers in the public into the private sector i would still pay for kids to go private because they will be with motivated, switched on , functional kids who should have better social and emotional intelligence.

in fact, the higher the fees the better as it puts you up from second division to first division to the premier league.

work out what you can afford and then put you kids in the most expensive school you can find .

Well summed up!

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #52 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:47am

Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:28pm:

If Private schools weren't better than Public schools....then there'd be no private schools.... Cheesy

You know... I've never heard anyone make that point and yet it is perhaps the most powerful argument of all. They exists because people are prepared to pay huge amounts to educated their kids privately ergo they consider them to be a lot better than public schools.

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Reply #53 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:57am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:47am:

Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:28pm:

If Private schools weren't better than Public schools....then there'd be no private schools.... Cheesy

You know... I've never heard anyone make that point and yet it is perhaps the most powerful argument of all. They exist because people are prepared to pay huge amounts to educate their kids privately ergo they consider them to be a lot better than public schools.

Oh duh!

Oooh....I forgot. This is OzPol lol the place where the bleeding obvious needs to be explained and clarified. My bad Maria Tongue

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #54 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:02am Scoot fantasised: Quote: motivated, switched on , functional kids who should have better social and emotional intelligence. Kids who went to private school never grow up, really.
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #55 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:05am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

Scoot fantasised:

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motivated, switched on , functional kids who should have better social and emotional intelligence.

Kids who went to private school never grow up, really.

And what would you know about private schools ....or kids for that matter?

You've never had personal experience with either.

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #56 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:07am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:47am:

Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:28pm:

If Private schools weren't better than Public schools....then there'd be no private schools.... Cheesy

You know... I've never heard anyone make that point and yet it is perhaps the most powerful argument of all. They exists because people are prepared to pay huge amounts to educated their kids privately ergo they consider them to be a lot better than public schools.

they exist because tax payer dollars prop them up .... remove the govt. money and the majority would close.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #57 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:09am Probably more than you. I offer the cases of abbott & hokey, both the product of private schools, both hopeless numpties.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #58 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:10am Private schools exist because they offer snob value. That’s it, pretty much. the intensive coaching they do just means private school kids pass exams. If you compare MySchool scores between private and public schools there isn’t that much difference.
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Reply #59 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:10am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:47am:

Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:28pm:

If Private schools weren't better than Public schools....then there'd be no private schools.... Cheesy

You know... I've never heard anyone make that point and yet it is perhaps the most powerful argument of all. They exists because people are prepared to pay huge amounts to educated their kids privately ergo they consider them to be a lot better than public schools.

a tourist traveling through Tibet stopped at an isolated monastery on a mountain top
in the monastery there was a coffee shop with only two items

they were

coffee $2
coffee $200

when the tourist asked the monk what was the difference between the coffee's the monk said $198, yet occasionally people buy the $200 coffee because they think it must be better

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