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Reply #510 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:11pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:33pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:28pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 2:05pm:

Maxwell has rather been superceded by quantum mechanics.

And if you are teaching year 10 students about electromagnetism and waves you don't start with quantum mechanics.

And when those things were taught, it was not introduced as being the theory of anyone ~ no one was amed. It is just taught.

Why the hell would he NOT be named? What exactly is your point? You seem to be making a very over-arching statement for someone who clearly never even studied the sciences.

You are right that I never studied science. I was forced to digest it over four years in High School, and the only person whose name got a mention was Archimedes. The rest was just presented as given or established fact, and there was no class I can recall when the teachers started with "Today we will learn about the theories of *here insert any name you like.*

You never heard of Newtons laws of motion? No one ever mentioned Einstein's theory of Relativity? They are only perhaps the two most important theories of all time.

You must have attended a Special Ed class to be quite as ignorant as you are.

Oh yeas. Those two were also mentioned. They were generic terms almost.

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Reply #511 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:11pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:53pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

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Maxwell is taught in EVERY physics class.

Then you should have no problem showing this in the NSW HSC Physics Syllabus. It's online, dear. You'll find it under the NSW Board of Studies website.

And when you're done with that, please show where a subject called calculus is taught in any state curriculum.

I'll wait for you to get back, dear.

Oh God.

Karnal.

You need to step back now.

Ok?

You're way in over your head and NO AMOUNT OF 5 SECOND GOOGLING is going to get you out of this.

It sounds like he is having a mental breakdown. I am not even sure what he is trying to prove. No one is saying there is a subject called Calculus, only that it is taught in the maths syllabus - something that would be rather obvious even to someone as daft as he is.

And pretending that Maxwell's equations or his contribution are not taught is equally nuts.

Do you have any idea what this crazy loon is trying to say?

Ummm calculus is taught. It is a major area of mathematics.

It feeds into physics too.

In short, it's a very impt single subject within maths which prepares students who wish to study 1st yr maths at uni.

I've done these subjects myself and have for many years prepared students for their HSC and uni.

Which brjngs me to a serious point. I am presently, seriously laughing here at Dumb and Dumber and their 5 mins of googling maths and science education backgrounds. Grin

I am still in shock at how anyone seriously thinks that they don't teach calculus or Electromagnetism in school. I know I often refer to some people on here as bogans, but I didn't really realise until today just how uneducated and ignorant some are on here. Calculus is only one of the major branches of maths without which you can never study physics or engineering or any of the mathematics-based disciplines.

We are in the presence of some seriously, seriously, stupid posters.

Did I not tell you this?

Did I not warn you of this?

You do believe me now...don't you?

As long as you pretend to be dumb like them, you'll fit in perfectly.

Oh and fake a bit of insanity here and there too for added effect...otherwise you'll stick out like a sore thumb around here Grin

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #512 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:11pm http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/syllabus_hsc/pdf_doc/maths23u_syl.pdf Calculus in the HSC syllabus. Be careful people... there are some big words and some big numbers there. You might get confused.
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Reply #513 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:12pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

Some of you people are really coming off badly and looking like real fools. You are betraying your ignorance. Aussie has apparently never heard of Newton or Einstein. Johnsmith thinks everyone drives a Mercedes and jovial monk... well he never gets anything right anyhow. Karnal's claim to have ever been a teach of anything is clearly destroyed.

wow. Dumb and Dumber is really quite a positive accolade in light of the ignorance on display here today.

But but dear, darling, I did say I studied Maxwell and his Equations. I think you are the one gets everything wrong, which is why you always descend into abuse, even fleeing the forum for a few weeks.

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Reply #514 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:12pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:02pm:

I know, Maria. They're so stupid they can't find mention of an important area of study on a Board of Studies website.

Basic research skills. I taught this in Year 7 English - always at the beginning of the year. I hear they're teaching it in primary school these days.

What a load of rubbish!

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #516 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:14pm Ah, Longy, minor correction old dear: Newton’s Laws of Motion were not a theory. They described but did not explain planetary motion. Theory had to wait until Einstein arrived.
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Reply #517 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:16pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:04pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:00pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:47pm:

wow ... the level of stupidity displayed by Maria and Lisa is astonishing

Undecided

When it comes to maths and science, don't you dare call me stupid.

Don't you dare!

These 2 subject areas are close to my heart and soul.

you don't want to be called stupid stop making dumb comments

On the subject of stupid statements, you are the ignorant ass claiming that Australias top selling car is... MERCEDES

You couldn't pass Special Ed - and obviously didn't.

He obviously never finished school.

Why?

Played up too much.

Nothing's changed.

HE'S STILL PLAYING UP TOO MUCH.

And no doubt, no doubt, he's bloody proud of it too!

Needs a good smack if you ask me.....

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Reply #518 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:17pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 3:59pm:

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Why would I need to google something I know so much about because I've studied it in yr 11 and 12 as well as at Uni?

Amazing.

What was the course you did at Uni, and what did you graduate as? So far, you have told us that at Uni you studied Law, philosophy, criminology, middle class domestic violence, HR, and now Maths/Science.

Now now, Aussie. I'm sure Maria did learn these things in school. She seems to have no idea, however, that a few things have changed since then - among them the names we use to describe important fields of study like algebra.

Now if Maria doesn't understand basic changes like that, how is she possibly able to be trusted as an expert on maths education?

Longy, of course, we know. He claimed to have been so good at maths he didn't need to go to uni. The "professors", if I recall, were too stupid. Because of this, Longy granted a PhD to himself.

Maria and Lisa, of course, could not possibly be as dumb as that. We don't expect everyone who comments on education with such inflexible and dogmatic views to be an expert on key learning areas and teaching methods. But do you know? You'd expect them to have some basic knowledge - not much, just a bit.

Personally, I'm a fan of the good old days when people didn't know something, they didn't say anything. But that's just me.

Maria and Lisa seem to be of the school that if you don't know something, you make something up and hope your audience is too dumb to notice.

Longy had a saying for this - he was, in his own words, that good.

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Reply #519 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:18pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

Some of you people are really coming off badly and looking like real fools. You are betraying your ignorance. Aussie has apparently never heard of Newton or Einstein. Johnsmith thinks everyone drives a Mercedes and jovial monk... well he never gets anything right anyhow. Karnal's claim to have ever been a teach of anything is clearly destroyed.

wow. Dumb and Dumber is really quite a positive accolade in light of the ignorance on display here today.

I agree.

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Reply #520 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:19pm

Neferti wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:18pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

Some of you people are really coming off badly and looking like real fools. You are betraying your ignorance. Aussie has apparently never heard of Newton or Einstein. Johnsmith thinks everyone drives a Mercedes and jovial monk... well he never gets anything right anyhow. Karnal's claim to have ever been a teach of anything is clearly destroyed.

wow. Dumb and Dumber is really quite a positive accolade in light of the ignorance on display here today.

I agree.

Maria, meet Nef.

You will like her.

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Reply #521 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:19pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:02pm:

I know, Maria. They're so stupid they can't find mention of an important area of study on a Board of Studies website.

Basic research skills. I taught this in Year 7 English - always at the beginning of the year. I hear they're teaching it in primary school these days.

What a load of rubbish!

Sorry, dear, if you've posted this already, just post a link.

It's a bit hard to read everything with all the page-turning issues.

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Reply #522 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:21pm

Neferti wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:18pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

Some of you people are really coming off badly and looking like real fools. You are betraying your ignorance. Aussie has apparently never heard of Newton or Einstein. Johnsmith thinks everyone drives a Mercedes and jovial monk... well he never gets anything right anyhow. Karnal's claim to have ever been a teach of anything is clearly destroyed.

wow. Dumb and Dumber is really quite a positive accolade in light of the ignorance on display here today.

I agree.

It's quite astonishing to see the depth of their ignorance on display. To honestly believe that calculus is no longer taught takes quite a degree of ignorance - the only degree they have.

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Reply #523 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:21pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:11pm:

http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/syllabus_hsc/pdf_doc/maths23u_syl.pdf

Calculus in the HSC syllabus. Be careful people... there are some big words and some big numbers there. You might get confused.

Sorry, dear, you've posted 86 pages. Kindly post the your reference to Integral Calculus and Maxwell's principle.

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Reply #524 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:22pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Neferti wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:18pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

Some of you people are really coming off badly and looking like real fools. You are betraying your ignorance. Aussie has apparently never heard of Newton or Einstein. Johnsmith thinks everyone drives a Mercedes and jovial monk... well he never gets anything right anyhow. Karnal's claim to have ever been a teach of anything is clearly destroyed.

wow. Dumb and Dumber is really quite a positive accolade in light of the ignorance on display here today.

I agree.

Maria, meet Nef.

You will like her.

I posted the HSC Maths syllabus including its reference to Calculus. You might not how that has NOT been discussed. It is on page 3 so it could take a few hours for them to get to it.

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