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Chinese hacking explained
Oct 5th, 2015 at 11:36pm
 
You may have noticed in the media in the last few months there have been various reports of Chinese government hacking US government cyber networks.

The big one that got the most attention and pushed the issue towards presidential comment was the hack on the Office of Personnel Management.

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OPM launched a “forensic investigation” after discovering that its internal database, housing background-check records of current, former and prospective federal employees and contractors, had been hacked in late May.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/09/opm-hack-21-million-personal-i...

This information is not stored on the internet. There is extremely sensitive information in these databases. It is stored on an internal intranet. It is impossible for a hacker of any nation or persuasion to gain access to this network through the internet or a trojan horse.

The first step in say, securing the secret information of say, a person who had a high level security clearance and was working in a south east Asian country posing as an aid worker but actually was a CIA officer investigating international terrorism, would be, to safeguard that information from attack.

That would include not having the information on any kind of internet system. It is on an intranet.

So why are they reporting Chinese hackers were able to breach this network?

Quote:
Months after the discovery of a massive breach of U.S. government personnel records, the Obama administration has decided against publicly blaming China for the intrusion in part out of reluctance to reveal the evidence that American investigators have assembled, U.S. officials said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-avoids-blaming-china-i...

So how did China even rate a mention in this affair? The hack was orchestrated by a hostile US government employee or a hostile US government faction. If the hack does in fact deal with the OPM and is not a selective release of information designed to persuade.

That person, with their knowledge of the political climate, and their available means to perform sabotage or attack the US government, would be able to ascertain that their attack on the US would be designed to assist a US enemy. And considering that the USA has been touted as being engaged in cyber warfare with the PRC for some years, that person could easily identify as performing an attack for China, to benefit China, to harm the USA.

That does not mean that the Chinese hacked the USA.

It means the hacker was self identifying with, according to all available information, a Chinese intention to cause harm to the USA.

Therefore, that person is a Chinese hacker. Or that group is a self sponsored unit of the People's Liberation Army.

The fact is, the information is not available to the internet. There is only the risk of an employee performing an attack or an act of sabotage.

This was not China.

But then you have to look deeper again.

This information is available in the public domain, for widespread dissemination.

Why? How does releasing information to benefit a supposed enemy or cause anxiety within US government top secret arenas not pose an extremely serious national security risk? You would assume based on basic procedure that this information, if it was true, was to never be released to the public.

So why was it?

Does it have something to do with the very recent meeting between the President of China and the President of the USA?

Quote:
On September 24-25, 2015, President Barack Obama hosted President Xi Jinping of China for a State visit.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/09/25/fact-sheet-president-xi-j...

Keep in mind that I have already pointed out that this is widespread public information. Clearly designed to incite debate, opinion forming and other forms of discussion including influencing policy for companies and public sentiment. It serves no other purpose.

Chinese state media have come out with the following:

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The Chinese President noted that China will not, in whatever form, engage in commercial theft, or encourage or support such attempts by anyone, adding that cyber attacks are crimes that must be punished. He also said China is ready to set up a high-level joint dialogue mechanism with the US to fight cybercrime.
http://english.cntv.cn/2015/09/25/VIDE1443125998021193.shtml

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Reply #1 - Oct 5th, 2015 at 11:54pm
 
This is for international as well as domestic consumption. This is a President to President exchange between the two countries. It does not get any more public, any more symbolic of a high level cooperative representation between the two nations than having their presidents meet in the White House.

So what impact can this have on the Chinese citizenry?

It is very easy to change government policy and mindset. Government employees are to follow orders and adhere to policy directives. So if the Chinese government makes a policy directive to the military that, for example, the USA is now a benefactor and that any overt hostile treatment of the relationship will be dealt with swiftly, and Chinese soldier saying amongst his comrades that "Yankee pig must die at the tip of my bayonet" will be removed from service and imprisoned for a very long time by the Chinese military internal security apparatus for treason, inciting armed rebellion and insubordination.

The government, as they are aware of their loyalty and need to follow orders, are not a consideration. Policy can be changed in minutes and they will abide.

But the general public are much different. They are, if 'politically aware', fed information by the media. They have opinions formed over time that are hard to shake. If they are 'politically aware' then they are also aware that policy directives issued by the government, and all media in China is government owned, are apt to change to suit the diplomatic climate and are not representative of the current government policy, but are rather statements issued to further foreign policy.

This is evident by Chinese media reporting on Japan. It is well known by Chinese that the Chinese military faces its' main local threats from Japan and the USA. There is Chinese public indoctrination towards Japan as a hostile nation, a definite military enemy in times of war and as a definite cultural enemy towards China.

There are TV dramas, movies, computer games and more focused on Japanese Imperial oppression of the Chinese people before and during WW2. This has carried on in to the current day. Japan is presented as a race of barbarians who rape and murder Chinese as well as a race and culture of people determined to oppress and conquer China. This carries on even today. There are people of a militant mindset who, regardless of the current Chinese diplomatic efforts and foreign policy directives expressed through the media are focused on Japan as the enemy, culturally and militarily.

This is not prevalent in all aspects of Chinese society or culture, but it is very widespread.

In fact, the second world war is referred to as the War of Chinese People's Resistance Against Japanese Aggression. And Japan, and the modern Japanese military received negative press.

Therefore, all Chinese citizens, regardless of their personal opinion or persuasion, are familiar with the accepted stance towards Japan.

So again, what is the purpose of this?

Is it for Chinese - US relations?

Clearly. The president has vowed to work with the US government in stopping what the media are reporting as attacks on the US government from the Chinese military, even if it be non lethal cyber warfare.

This is not an editorial or opinion piece in the local communist party gazette. This is all over China, and all over the world.

The Chinese president has stated he wants to stop cyber theft and hacking which is often attributed to the Chinese military in the media.

This is not necessary as an effort to shift government policy. This is an effort at bettering relations at the individual citizen level, and at the level of public perception of the foreign nation.

This clearly points to efforts by the Chinese to make the image of the US government, the US military, and therefore the US society and culture as acceptable and to be embraced by the Chinese, not merely as something to be tolerated or observed, as other countries do, namely Iran, with their labeling of the American way of life as "US cultural supremacy and the will of Satan".

However, this is not a major cultural shift in China. Doing so would be nearly impossible. Years and years of public indoctrination of a military nature, focused predominately on Japan and their military, but also on the US military alliance with Japan, via cartoons, fiction, movies, computer games, tv dramas and public sentiment (such as their ANZAC day equivalents (Australian's see Turkey as an ally now, as is Germany) that still label Japan as hostile) would be impossible to alter without causing extreme social unrest. If five minutes from now the Chinese media started painting a positive picture of Japan and their military, and said history was history, people might think a war had been declared or something less drastic.

But efforts to improve the US image and decrease tensions amongst the public, the people susceptible to the media and peer pressure/the accepted mood, is well underway, not just with adoptions of US cultural norms such as movie theatres and playing baseball and western fashion.

The Chinese modern culture, with their distrust leaning towards hatred of Japan, is maintained, at the same time as increasing the positive image of the USA and their military to the public.
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Reply #2 - Oct 5th, 2015 at 11:55pm
 
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Japanese sea patrols in the South China Sea are unacceptable, but U.S. patrols there will be tolerated, a prominent Chinese general declared, according to a new NBC news report. The ongoing military dispute between China and Japan that will change the strategic make-up of the region centers on territorial claims over a group of islands that could have huge economic potential.
http://www.ibtimes.com/japan-not-welcome-south-china-sea-us-forces-can-patrol-re...

So you can clearly see that the Chinese are working to improve the image of the USA amongst their population. Even the military of the USA. Nothing has changed with Japan.

Perhaps this is for the people who don't want to let go of their personal belief system? They can maintain the rage whilst at the same time being demilitarised?

But what impact is this having on the US social order?

They are still portraying China the same way as the Chinese see Japan.

This is clearly required not just for the public, but for the US military, with forward deployed forces in Asia, particularly around Japan, with a focus on North Korea and the People's Republic of China.

Presenting too positive an image of China would harm the US military morale and cohesiveness.

Whereas this is beneficial for the Chinese to change their public perceptions as they are in Asia, not forward deployed there.
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Reply #3 - Oct 6th, 2015 at 12:18am
 
Now, where does Australia stand in all of this?

Australia has been left right out of this. Australia does not have, and will not have, a diplomatic or intelligence capability anywhere in Asia.

And not because this is required, but because they are not to be trusted, afforded respect or allowed to be legitimized.

Australia is going so far down it will never, ever be able to get up. This is beyond the point of no return.

Quote:
China is resolving South China Sea disputes through bilateral negation and urged Australia to honor its commitment of not taking sides of on issues concerning sovereignty disputes, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson said on Tuesday.
http://en.people.cn/n/2015/0922/c90000-8953676.html

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As a country thousands of miles away from the South China Sea, Australia has nothing to do with the disputes and should have been wise enough to keep away from them.
http://en.people.cn/n/2015/0610/c90780-8904778.html

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SYDNEY—Australia believes South Korea has been trying to spy on its police and government agencies, newly-released documents reveal in separate disclosures that are likely to complicate relations between the two allies.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324266904578458602036593008

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BEIJING - President Park Geun-hye on Thursday watched the largest-ever military parade by China from a prominent spot near President Xi Jinping, a symbol that the South has replaced the North - at least for now - as China’s favorite Korea.
http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3008773

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WASHINGTON, Sept. 21 (Yonhap) -- The United States and China won't accept North Korea as a nuclear power and are working together for a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula, the U.S. national security advisor said Monday.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2015/09/22/0401000000AEN2015092200020...
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Reply #4 - Oct 6th, 2015 at 12:42am
 
Taiwan is used in a military context when public comments are passed on it relating to mainland China.

Any negative engagement with Taiwan, if used in an attempt for positive engagement with the PRC, can only be used in a military context.

Therefore, Australia is broken.

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Shen, an Australian businessman now resident in Taipei, was sentenced to imprisonment this week for recruiting the deputy commander of Taiwan's navy to spy for Chinese military intelligence.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-man-shen-pingkang-jailed-in-taiwan-for...

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“The agency has been friendly with businessmen who go overseas, trying to get information from them,” said journalist Buntaro Kuroi. “By fostering relationships with such civilians over a long time, agency officials would often ask they check up on certain things, ‘if possible.'” But I suspect such (casual) requests do not involve clear instructions or exchange of money.”
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/10/03/national/politics-diplomacy/japanese...

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US-Taiwan Defense Industry Conference opens in Virginia
http://english.rti.org.tw/news/?recordId=34344
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Reply #5 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 3:33pm
 
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To enhance U.S.-China relations, Chao emphasized public diplomacy and increased interactions between both countries.
http://www.ecns.cn/2015/10-06/183402.shtml
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Reply #6 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:48pm
 
easel wrote on Oct 5th, 2015 at 11:36pm:
You may have noticed in the media in the last few months there have been various reports of Chinese government hacking US government cyber networks.

The big one that got the most attention and pushed the issue towards presidential comment was the hack on the Office of Personnel Management.

Quote:
OPM launched a “forensic investigation” after discovering that its internal database, housing background-check records of current, former and prospective federal employees and contractors, had been hacked in late May.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/09/opm-hack-21-million-personal-i...

This information is not stored on the internet. There is extremely sensitive information in these databases. It is stored on an internal intranet. It is impossible for a hacker of any nation or persuasion to gain access to this network through the internet or a trojan horse.

The first step in say, securing the secret information of say, a person who had a high level security clearance and was working in a south east Asian country posing as an aid worker but actually was a CIA officer investigating international terrorism, would be, to safeguard that information from attack.

That would include not having the information on any kind of internet system. It is on an intranet.

So why are they reporting Chinese hackers were able to breach this network?

Quote:
Months after the discovery of a massive breach of U.S. government personnel records, the Obama administration has decided against publicly blaming China for the intrusion in part out of reluctance to reveal the evidence that American investigators have assembled, U.S. officials said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-avoids-blaming-china-i...

So how did China even rate a mention in this affair? The hack was orchestrated by a hostile US government employee or a hostile US government faction. If the hack does in fact deal with the OPM and is not a selective release of information designed to persuade.

That person, with their knowledge of the political climate, and their available means to perform sabotage or attack the US government, would be able to ascertain that their attack on the US would be designed to assist a US enemy. And considering that the USA has been touted as being engaged in cyber warfare with the PRC for some years, that person could easily identify as performing an attack for China, to benefit China, to harm the USA.

That does not mean that the Chinese hacked the USA.

It means the hacker was self identifying with, according to all available information, a Chinese intention to cause harm to the USA.

Therefore, that person is a Chinese hacker. Or that group is a self sponsored unit of the People's Liberation Army.

The fact is, the information is not available to the internet. There is only the risk of an employee performing an attack or an act of sabotage.

This was not China.

But then you have to look deeper again.

This information is available in the public domain, for widespread dissemination.

Why? How does releasing information to benefit a supposed enemy or cause anxiety within US government top secret arenas not pose an extremely serious national security risk? You would assume based on basic procedure that this information, if it was true, was to never be released to the public.

So why was it?

Does it have something to do with the very recent meeting between the President of China and the President of the USA?

Quote:
On September 24-25, 2015, President Barack Obama hosted President Xi Jinping of China for a State visit.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/09/25/fact-sheet-president-xi-j...

Keep in mind that I have already pointed out that this is widespread public information. Clearly designed to incite debate, opinion forming and other forms of discussion including influencing policy for companies and public sentiment. It serves no other purpose.

Chinese state media have come out with the following:

Quote:
The Chinese President noted that China will not, in whatever form, engage in commercial theft, or encourage or support such attempts by anyone, adding that cyber attacks are crimes that must be punished. He also said China is ready to set up a high-level joint dialogue mechanism with the US to fight cybercrime.
http://english.cntv.cn/2015/09/25/VIDE1443125998021193.shtml


It's an extremely pertinent point: it is newspeak from G Orwell when all issues are combined into what become incomprehensible terms.

Led Zeppelin talked about the communication breakdown so it's not like the masses don't know but en-masse they still act as aloof idiots so it must be pointed it like you've just done.

Well done  Smiley Smiley

It's owning language ... let us just call everything 'hacking' and bow to the talking heads from our birth of ignorance  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed why not vote for copper internet and  endless roads to burn fossil fuels on: let's all make the elite happy and hide behind our standing armies and stuff  Cheesy Cheesy
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