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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: What a great team!!!! Reply #30 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:28pm I don't think I ever said any of those things Karnak. Can you post the quotes?
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Reply #31 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:32pm

Neferti wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:01pm:

Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum:

http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html

Cormann is just an idiot.

But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now? Grin

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg

Got us through the GFC practically unscathed, one of a handful of advanced economies to do so. Unemployment reached over 10% in the US, 5.8% at its highest here.

Implementation of the Carbon Price was smooth, making part of the compensation a tripling of the tax free threshold was genius according to Forbes business magazine.

The two bank guarantees saved the banks, we had no runs, no bank failures, the loan of the commonwealth credit status—the 9As we got for the first time ever—made the govt $16Bn and helped the banks raise funds, rollover lines of credit etc at a time it was hard to find funds to borrow.

Spent and taxed less as a % GDP than Howard/Costello and abbott/hokey. Did this by getting rid of the Baby Bonus and means testing the PHI rebate.

That do to be going on with? Unlike Hokey Swan got all six of his Budgets through, including three as part of minority govt.

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Reply #32 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:43pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Together, the finances couldn't be in better hands.

They should grow the debt very well together with Mal looking over their shoulders.

Yeah - but the top end should be comfortable and then the trickle-down can begin in earnest... thank goodness the adults are in charge now...

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Reply #33 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:53pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!!

Huh

This is not the time of Rudd. Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy.

There is Longy with the same bullcrap!

It was the Panel of Experts who recommended FTTH. Good decision too, the klutzes who have been trying to run things for the last two years have made a mess, including kluging up the NBN and running its cost up to $56Bn and counting. Rolling out copper!

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: What a great team!!!! Reply #34 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:15pm What a great team yeah ... morriscum had to bribe turncoat for the job .... or was it the other way around
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Reply #35 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:33pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!!

Huh

This is not the time of Rudd. Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy.

Really....How is Abbott's PPL scheme going....You know the policy that was vital for working mothers....Not only was it scrapped the Coalition have tried to cut the existing scheme even further calling it double dipping and a rort???

Huh

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139607 Gender:	Re: What a great team!!!! Reply #36 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:41pm bogarde73 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:45pm: Morrison & Corman.
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Reply #37 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:49pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!!

Huh

This is not the time of Rudd. Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy.

Really....How is Abbott's PPL scheme going....You know the policy that was vital for working mothers....Not only was it scrapped the Coalition have tried to cut the existing scheme even further calling it double dipping and a rort???

Huh

Indeed, Mr Perth. That was a critical moment in the ultimate demise of Abbott and Hockey, I reckon. They made it out to be such a big deal, and then walked away from it as though no-one would notice.....and fact is, Shorten and the ALP seem not to have noticed.

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Reply #38 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:41am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:32pm:

Neferti wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:01pm:

Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum:

http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html

Cormann is just an idiot.

But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now? Grin

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg

Got us through the GFC practically unscathed, one of a handful of advanced economies to do so. Unemployment reached over 10% in the US, 5.8% at its highest here.

Implementation of the Carbon Price was smooth, making part of the compensation a tripling of the tax free threshold was genius according to Forbes business magazine.

The two bank guarantees saved the banks, we had no runs, no bank failures, the loan of the commonwealth credit status—the 9As we got for the first time ever—made the govt $16Bn and helped the banks raise funds, rollover lines of credit etc at a time it was hard to find funds to borrow.

Spent and taxed less as a % GDP than Howard/Costello and abbott/hokey. Did this by getting rid of the Baby Bonus and means testing the PHI rebate.

That do to be going on with? Unlike Hokey Swan got all six of his Budgets through, including three as part of minority govt.

Where do you think all the money to do that came from? FROM THE ZERO DEBT FROM HOWARD.

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Reply #39 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:44am

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 9:33pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

I have seen nothing yet to give me confidence Morrison will be any different to Hockey....When Morrison actually does something I might agree with you Bogey....Until then their was a reason this Government dumped Abbott and Hockey....Nothing has changed IMO!!!

Huh

This is not the time of Rudd. Good financial management requires time and analysis, not two hours on a plane or 15minutes in a taxi to announce sweeping uncosted, un-planned policy.

Really....How is Abbott's PPL scheme going....You know the policy that was vital for working mothers....Not only was it scrapped the Coalition have tried to cut the existing scheme even further calling it double dipping and a rort???

Huh

it WAS double-dipping. The public service has a maternity scheme as does the federal government. There should never be both since the money comes from the same source.

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Reply #40 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:22am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:32pm:

Neferti wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:01pm:

Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum:

http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html

Cormann is just an idiot.

But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now? Grin

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg

Got us through the GFC practically unscathed, one of a handful of advanced economies to do so. Unemployment reached over 10% in the US, 5.8% at its highest here.

Implementation of the Carbon Price was smooth, making part of the compensation a tripling of the tax free threshold was genius according to Forbes business magazine.

The two bank guarantees saved the banks, we had no runs, no bank failures, the loan of the commonwealth credit status—the 9As we got for the first time ever—made the govt $16Bn and helped the banks raise funds, rollover lines of credit etc at a time it was hard to find funds to borrow.

Spent and taxed less as a % GDP than Howard/Costello and abbott/hokey. Did this by getting rid of the Baby Bonus and means testing the PHI rebate.

That do to be going on with? Unlike Hokey Swan got all six of his Budgets through, including three as part of minority govt.

Where do you think all the money to do that came from? FROM THE ZERO DEBT FROM HOWARD.

Howard and Costello left a huge structural Budget deficit, using temporarary boom revenue to spend and give tax cuts. Came the GFC that structural deficit became a cash one.

Not only that: $350Bn boom revenue WASTED! No new road or hospital or university to show for it! All WASTED on tax cuts and idiotic spending like the Baby Bonus. Not since Swan has there been a Treasurer to cut the built–in Howardista spending out the Budget! Just the super tax excemption cost the Budget $40Bn this year and climbing rapidly.

Howard left a surplus, #1 Liberal fairy tale!

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Reply #41 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:24am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 8:32pm:

Neferti wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 3:12pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 2:01pm:

Andrew Elder on Treas. Morriscum:

http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/less-than-expected.html

Cormann is just an idiot.

But, but but ....you still consider this person as the greatest treasurer, so who would believe you now? Grin

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/09/20/1226142/036565-wayne-swan.jpg

Got us through the GFC practically unscathed, one of a handful of advanced economies to do so. Unemployment reached over 10% in the US, 5.8% at its highest here.

Implementation of the Carbon Price was smooth, making part of the compensation a tripling of the tax free threshold was genius according to Forbes business magazine.

The two bank guarantees saved the banks, we had no runs, no bank failures, the loan of the commonwealth credit status—the 9As we got for the first time ever—made the govt $16Bn and helped the banks raise funds, rollover lines of credit etc at a time it was hard to find funds to borrow.

Spent and taxed less as a % GDP than Howard/Costello and abbott/hokey. Did this by getting rid of the Baby Bonus and means testing the PHI rebate.

That do to be going on with? Unlike Hokey Swan got all six of his Budgets through, including three as part of minority govt.

Where do you think all the money to do that came from? FROM THE ZERO DEBT FROM HOWARD.

Howard and Costello left a huge structural Budget deficit, using temporarary boom revenue to spend and give tax cuts. Came the GFC that structural deficit became a cash one.

Not only that: $350Bn boom revenue WASTED! No new road or hospital or university to show for it! All WASTED on tax cuts and idiotic spending like the Baby Bonus. Not since Swan has there been a Treasurer to cut the built–in Howardista spending out the Budget! Just the super tax excemption cost the Budget $40Bn this year and climbing rapidly.

Howard left a surplus, #1 Liberal fairy tale!

Not only did the Libs leave the budget in surplus but not credible non-tinfoil-hat wearer disputes it since it is a part of the official treasury record.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: What a great team!!!! Reply #42 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:36am And the structural Budget deficit is just the same story. Even if Howard had left more than negligible debt, as you can see from the abbott/hokey borrowing spree and profligate spending we could have raised the money anyway. Howard was one of our worst–ever PMs!
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Reply #43 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:45am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:36am:

And the structural Budget deficit is just the same story. Even if Howard had left more than negligible debt, as you can see from the abbott/hokey borrowing spree and profligate spending we could have raised the money anyway.

Howard was one of our worst–ever PMs!

Then sux-to-be-you because Howard is the most popular EVER PM.

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: What a great team!!!! Reply #44 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 11:08am http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/john-howard-named-australias-best-prime-minister/story-fncynkc6-1226561231526
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