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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Australia wilting under the heat Reply #30 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:08pm mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 2:05pm: There was also a report (that I cannot find now) that recorded the MWP in Tasmania If you find it post it please. Thanks!
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Reply #31 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:14pm

Stratos wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 2:05pm:

There was also a report (that I cannot find now) that recorded the MWP in Tasmania

If you find it post it please. Thanks!

I have no idea where I read it a number of years ago, but what difference does it make? Anyone that thinks a Tasmanian evidence of the MVP makes any difference is only then going to demand it in Victoria and then the next place.

The MWP is accepted as being a proven global warming period by everyone except a handful who are so dependent on the ACC scam that they are happily to deny all evidence so as to support their own delusions (such as hockey stick believers).

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Australia wilting under the heat Reply #32 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:28pm mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:14pm: I have no idea where I read it a number of years ago, but what difference does it make? Because the majority of climate studies focus on either Europe or the Americas and I'm interested to see what the science has to say regarding Australia's past climate?
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Reply #33 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 7:42pm

Stratos wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 5:14pm:

I have no idea where I read it a number of years ago, but what difference does it make?

Because the majority of climate studies focus on either Europe or the Americas and I'm interested to see what the science has to say regarding Australia's past climate?

Then do some research and see what you find.

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Reply #34 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:09pm

Tasmania

'As with the �Little Ice Age�, the posited �Medieval Warm Period� appears to have been less distinct, more moderate in amplitude, and somewhat different in timing at the hemispheric scale than is typically inferred for the conventionally-defined European epoch. '

https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/070.htm

New Zealand

'Key evidence from regions in Eurasia, North and South America, and New Zealand (see Figure 2) will be presented in the form of tabulated graphs, showing both conventional radiocarbon ages, as originally published, with their laboratory errors, and their calendar equivalents at 68% probability (Stuiver and Pearson, 1986).'

http://ruby.fgcu.edu/courses/twimberley/EnviroPhilo/Glacial.pdf

'A 1979 study from the University of Waikato found that "Temperatures derived from an 18O/16O profile through a stalagmite found in a New Zealand cave (40.67°S, 172.43°E) suggested the Medieval Warm Period to have occurred between AD 1050 and 1400 and to have been 0.75 °C warmer than the Current Warm Period."[38] The MWP has also been evidenced in New Zealand by an 1100-year tree-ring record.[39]'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

Anatrctica
'We show that water masses linked to North Pacific and Antarctic intermediate waters were warmer by 2.1 ± 0.4°C and 1.5 ± 0.4°C, respectively, during the middle Holocene Thermal Maximum than over the past century. Both water masses were ~0.9°C warmer during the Medieval Warm period than during the Little Ice Age and ~0.65° warmer than in recent decades. Although documented changes in global surface temperatures during the Holocene and Common era are relatively small, the concomitant changes in OHC are large. '

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6158/617

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Reply #35 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 8:27pm

Unforgiven wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

Wowee! Mildura expecting 39 C. Denialists will be smoking.

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Parts of the Sydney Basin are likely to get their longest spell of early-season heat on record, giving residents and visitors yet more reason to hit the beaches.

Penrith, Bankstown and Richmond could all bask in four consecutive days above 33 degrees in a heatwave that began on Saturday, James Casey, a meteorologist with Weatherzone, said.

Penrith is forecast to reach 37 degrees on both Monday and Tuesday, with Richmond likely to peak at similar levels.
Sydney's Observatory Hill won't be quite that hot but a trio of days 33 degrees or warmer from Sunday to Tuesday, if reached, would be the city's warmest October run since 2004, Mr Casey said.

So far on Monday, the city's mercury has reached 37 degrees, compared with the long-run average for October of 22 degrees - and very close to the 37.4 degree record for this early in the spring set back in 1942. Olympic Park has reached 37.5 degrees, with both Penrith and Richmond also reaching 37.

North-westerly winds are streaming in from the hot, dry inland regions of the country. These pushed humidity levels to just 15 per cent on Sunday, down from 50-60 per cent a day earlier, he said.

Climatologists are gathering the numbers on the burst of heat, with places such as Mildura in north-western Victoria setting a 37.5 degree early-season record on Sunday.

That record may last all of one day with another scorcher of 39 degrees forecast for the town on Monday.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/sydney-weather-melting-records-point-t...

Only got to 38 ... did the sky fall in?

Safe to say the wankfest has started as soon as we get a warm day.

Mildura expects a high of 31 tomorrow...does this mean catastrophic cooling is occurring? It's 7 degrees of cooling.....fmd Grin

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18027 Gender:	Re: Australia wilting under the heat Reply #36 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:02pm I was in Sydney yesterday, from Perth. According to weatherzone it was more humid than Townsville. I can't testify to that, but it was bloody humid.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Australia wilting under the heat Reply #37 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:48am Denialists can't take the heat!
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Reply #38 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 1:47am

Unforgiven wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:48am:

Denialists can't take the heat! Grin

Exactly most are young leftards from UNI who weren't around in the 70's and 80's and think they are hot these days and it must be global warming Grin

what nongs they are.

They wouldn't know a heatwave if it fried their face, they would think the military had a secret ray gun and were under attack.

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Reply #39 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 7:40am

ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 1:47am:

Unforgiven wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:48am:

Denialists can't take the heat! Grin

Exactly most are young leftards from UNI who weren't around in the 70's and 80's and think they are hot these days and it must be global warming Grin

what nongs they are.

They wouldn't know a heatwave if it fried their face, they would think the military had a secret ray gun and were under attack.

I see this very ordinary guy is determined to make a make an embarrassing display of his stupidity again.

You need to gear up mate. In 1 or 2 years the world will be looking for someone to punish for all the delay in acting against global warming and I don't think they'll forgive you just because your stupid.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18027 Gender:	Re: Australia wilting under the heat Reply #40 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 9:46am Unforgiven wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:48am: Denialists can't take the heat! Once again you display ignorance; you can't tell the difference between heat and humidity.
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ImSpartacus2 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6913	Re: Australia wilting under the heat Reply #41 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 10:34am lee wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 9:46am: Unforgiven wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:48am: Denialists can't take the heat! Once again you display ignorance; you can't tell the difference between heat and humidity.
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Reply #42 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 6:54am:

my personal philosophy on this is to use it as an up coming event to try and get better.

we may well see rising temperatures

this will sort out the boys from the men.

i try to get out in the heat and do some really heavy work every day that the temps is above 30.

our body can easily acclimatise to this.

so you now can function whilst others fall by the wayside.

as i have said before, if it was a stinking hot day and you were an athlete running a marathon and you see a big big hill in front, here is what you should think

"this is fantastic, i am going to bust a nut on this hill becuase it gives me the chance i need to blow away the opposition"

once you see every problem as an opportunity, you can get back on course.

so if we get massive heatwaves and droughts and food shortages....great, it will blow away our opposition.

give me some GM corn that is drought resistant, some
brahman cattle, build me a few dams and i'll earn you 3 x the export dollars when the food prices in asia skyrocket due to climate change.

i call this forward planning and not trying to fight the seasons, after every winter comes a spring, every problem brings an opportunity

Scoot trots out his usual rubbish.

Main point, Scoot you fantasist: Australia is the continent most at risk from climate change, it will be Asia sending food to us. Those dams you want others to build for you, how are you going to fill them? Southern Australia is drying out.

More realistic might be to do a second Snowy Mountain Scheme but based on the Burdekin River. Divert it west and south, hydro energy (zero emissions) plus water into the Darling and from there into both the Murray and the Great Artesian Basin. Failing that we will have to plan to move all the population into the north.

Ummm, Scoot, you DO wear a hat when you venture into the sun?

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Reply #43 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 1:45pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 10:34am:

lee wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 9:46am:

Unforgiven wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:48am:

Denialists can't take the heat!

Once again you display ignorance; you can't tell the difference between heat and humidity.

http://tweakyourbiz.com/management/files/Bloomberg-Cover1.jpg

Wow, Climate science by press release? AGW causes humidity?

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