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Reply #345 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:09pm
 
‘Massacre and Genocide’ The Son of a Zionist General Seeking Peace in Palestine


Published on 25 May 2016

Afshin Rattansi goes underground with the General’s Son. From surviving grenade attacks to the killing of a relative. We discover how, Miko Peled the Son of a prominent Israeli general become a peace activist in Palestine. Plus what will happen to the government after Netanyahu has appointed a Defence Minister who is for the death sentence.

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Reply #346 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 8:22pm
 
Oh f..k off - you have now gone to the absurd.

Miko Peled???

This guy has a PALESTINIAN FLAG on his twitter page.

He blocked both of my cousins on there purely because they identified themselves as serving Israeli soldiers.

The guy is an absolute bellend and a Kapo.
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Reply #347 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:22pm
 
jmjcare wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:09pm:
‘Massacre and Genocide’ The Son of a Zionist General Seeking Peace in Palestine


Published on 25 May 2016

Afshin Rattansi goes underground with the General’s Son. From surviving grenade attacks to the killing of a relative. We discover how, Miko Peled the Son of a prominent Israeli general become a peace activist in Palestine. Plus what will happen to the government after Netanyahu has appointed a Defence Minister who is for the death sentence.




Well if it was Hamas we do know that there would be no trial and he would disappear only to be executed after being tortured.

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(Jerusalem) – Hamas authorities in Gaza should investigate their military wing for the apparent torture and execution of Mahmoud Eshtewi. Eshtewi, a member of that military wing, was detained in secret locations for over a year.

Relatives of the victim said they and Eshtewi himself informed the most senior officials in Hamas’s civilian government that the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades was torturing Eshtewi, but officials did not intervene. Family members say one senior Hamas official endorsed the use of torture.
 

“The Eshtewi case raises serious questions about who’s in charge in Gaza, Hamas’s civilian authorities or its military,” said Sari Bashi, Israel and Palestine director. “Hamas should conduct a genuine investigation into Eshtewi’s death, prosecute those responsible, and shut down any units operating outside the law.”
Human Rights Watch interviewed five relatives, whose names are withheld to protect them, and reviewed photographs of Eshtewi’s body and handwritten notes apparently smuggled out of a detention center. Human Rights Watch also contacted Hamas and hospital officials, but they declined to comment. The evidence supports allegations that Qassam operatives tortured Eshtewi, trampled upon his rights to due process, and may have extrajudicially executed him.

Eshtewi, 34, a father of three from the Zaitoun neighborhood of Gaza City, served in the Qassam Brigades since 2000, most recently responsible for training fighters, his family said. After the 2014 war between Israel and Hamas and other armed groups in Gaza, they said, Eshtewi expressed criticism of his commander’s performance. On January 21, 2015, after a meeting with commanders, including his supervisor, that was supposed to address his criticism, Eshtewi vanished. His family said they discovered that Qassam operatives held him in secret locations until February 7, when the group’s Military Information Department issued a statement saying it had executed Eshtewi after sentencing him to death “for behavioral and moral violations to which he confessed.”
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/02/15/palestine-torture-death-hamas-detainee
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Reply #348 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:31pm
 
Gaza journalist says he was tortured in Hamas jail

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Palestinian journalist Ayman al-Aloul frequently writes about the hardships of life in the Gaza Strip, and is one of the few voices willing to publicly criticize the rule of the Islamic Hamas movement.

But after nine days in jail, al-Aloul says he won't be writing about politics anymore. He said a painful experience that included beatings and being forced to sit uncomfortably in a tiny chair has made him a "new man" and that he will now focus on less controversial topics like sports, food, literature and fashion.

"I've decided not to talk about the general situation anymore," al-Aloul said in an interview at his home Tuesday, a day after he was released. "The experience I went through was very difficult."

Al-Aloul's experience is part of a crackdown by Hamas at a time when the continuing miseries of life in Gaza appear to be driving its population toward more open dissent. Critics have grown bolder on social media sites, and attempts by Hamas to impose new taxes have triggered rare public protests.

Al-Aloul said his new reticence would not affect his work as a reporter for an Iraqi TV station, which he described as straight news reporting and not "opinion-making."

It was his personal social media activity that drew attention. In recent months, he wrote under a popular hashtag urging Hamas to withdraw from the Rafah crossing point between Gaza and Egypt. Like many Palestinians, he believes that Egypt has shuttered Rafah because it doesn't want to deal with Hamas, and proposes letting the Western-backed Palestinian Authority manage the crossing.

He also published pictures of people looking for leftover food in garbage containers, quoted business owners angry over increased taxes and blamed Gaza authorities for prolonged power blackouts.

On Jan. 3, Hamas forces arrested him and another outspoken critic, Ramzi Herzallah, in their homes in Gaza City. During his detention, al-Aloul said he was repeatedly slapped on the face by his interrogators and twice sent to a room known euphemistically as "the bus." He described it as a room equipped with children's chairs, where detainees are blindfolded and forced to sit for an entire day.

"They think that my posts on Facebook harm the Gaza government," he said. "They considered criticizing the government to be criticism of 'the resistance' and they accused me of harming the revolutionary unity," al-Aloul said.

Herzallah, also released Monday, said he too experienced "the bus," but declined to comment further. Hamas' Interior Ministry declined comment.

Hamas, an Islamist movement pledged to Israel's destruction, seized Gaza from the Palestinian Authority in 2007. Despite being branded a terrorist group by Israel and the West, and enduring three wars with Israel and an Israeli-Egyptian blockade, it has clung to power.

The 2014 war, precipitated by a string of events that included heavy rocket fire into Israel, was especially devastating. More than 2,100 Gazans, including hundreds of civilians, were killed, and some 100,000 homes were damaged or destroyed. Seventy-two people, including six civilians, were killed on the Israeli side.

Only a tiny fraction of affected homes have been rebuilt. Electricity is available for as little as three hours a day, and gas for heating and cooking is rationed. The power shortage stems from infighting between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, which coordinates fuel purchases from Israel.

The World Bank estimates Gaza's unemployment at 43 percent. Gaza's 1.8 million people have few options at home or abroad since few people can leave. Egypt opened the Rafah crossing, the main exit point for Gazans traveling abroad, for just 21 days in 2015.

Egypt's relationship with Hamas has worsened since the 2013 overthrow of then-Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas' ideological counterpart. Israel allows humanitarian cases to cross through its border, but this is a small fraction of the people waiting to leave.

While Hamas seems still firmly in power, it has raised taxes recently to shore up shaky finances that have left it unable to pay its 40,000 employees. This has pushed up the price of cigarettes by about 10 percent, and brought a $1,000 annual licensing fee upon cafes, restaurants and hotels.



The taxes have triggered unusual public anger.

Last month, fruit and vegetable importers briefly suspended deliveries. Last week, dozens of residents of the Jabaliya refugee camp took to the streets to protest a lengthy power cut. And on Tuesday, dozens of merchants closed their shops and held a rare public demonstration in the Nusseirat refugee camp to protest a new 16 percent sales tax.

"We tell the government and decision makers ... Feel the people who hardly live," said clothing store owner Mohammed Jahjouh, who predicts the protests will grow.

A poll published last month found that 41 percent of Gazans want to emigrate, compared to 24 percent of Palestinians in the West Bank. The survey, conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, questioned 1,270 people and had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

Hamas officials brush off the criticism and accuse Israel, Egypt and the Palestinian Authority of conspiring to punish it.

Ziad al-Zaza, a senior Hamas leader, said the turmoil shaking the Middle East will help his movement in the long run.

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Reply #349 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:32pm
 
"We are able to ... clear the way through our piercing vision and reading of the incidents," he said in a recent interview.

Human rights groups have accused Hamas of intimidating or torturing critics and opponents in the past, a charge it denies. Akram Sourani, a local satirist, said the latest arrests might succeed in dampening the criticism.

"Unfortunately, this right has become an issue of debate among the writers. 'Shall I write or not? Shall I express or not?'" said Sourani, who was himself summoned in December by Hamas police. "I think we must continue to speak out."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gaza-journalist-says-tortured-hamas-jail-194324471.html?ref=gs
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Reply #350 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:37pm
 
Peled is not a peace activist.

He is openly pro-Palestinian and he has verbally insulted Israeli troops, despite them being decent honest guys doing their national service.
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Reply #351 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:39pm
 
Hamas accused of routine torture of detainees in Gaza Strip


Human Rights Watch report says three Palestinians have been executed after 'confessions' apparently obtained under coercion
Hamas security forces are routinely subjecting Palestinian detainees in Gaza to torture and abuse, according to a report by Human Rights Watch, which says three men have been executed on the basis of "confessions" apparently obtained under coercion.

The report cites serious abuses such as arbitrary arrest, denial of access to lawyers and the use of torture during interrogations.

"After five years of Hamas rule in Gaza, its criminal justice system reeks of injustice, routinely violates detainees' rights, and grants immunity to abusive security services," said Joe Stork of HRW. "Hamas should stop the kinds of abuses that Egyptians, Syrians and others in the region have risked their lives to bring to an end."

The report, Abusive System: Criminal Justice in Gaza, calls for urgent reforms, including a moratorium on the death penalty. It cites the case of Abdel Karim Shrair, who, according to family and lawyers, was tortured under interrogation before being executed by firing squad in May 2011 after "confessing" to collaborating with Israel.

Fourteen Palestinians have been executed since Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in June 2007. This week, the European Union condemned death sentences handed down last month to two men in Gaza, one for murder and the second for collaboration.

The EU "considers capital punishment to be cruel and inhuman, failing to provide deterrence to criminal behaviour, and representing an unacceptable denial of human dignity and integrity", it said in a statement.

HRWatch accused Hamas of failing to investigate alleged cases of torture and abuse, and of granting impunity from prosecution to security service officials.

It said "intra-Palestinian political rivalry [between Hamas and Fatah] remains a significant factor behind many Hamas abuses against detainees in Gaza".

The Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority in the West Bank also "arrests and detains Palestinians arbitrarily, including Hamas members or sympathisers, and similarly subjects detainees to torture and abuse", the report said.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/03/hamas-torture-detainees-gaza
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Reply #352 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:34pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:37pm:
Peled is not a peace activist.

He is openly pro-Palestinian and he has verbally insulted Israeli troops, despite them being decent honest guys doing their national service.


Every site on the first page of google search says he is.  I've never heard of him, but.....it seems he may have two eyes open.

What's wrong with being openly Palestinian?  Are they sub-human or something unworthy of being treated with dignity?

Is it treason if an Israeli supports the existence of Palestine?
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Reply #353 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:36pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:34pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:37pm:
Peled is not a peace activist.

He is openly pro-Palestinian and he has verbally insulted Israeli troops, despite them being decent honest guys doing their national service.


Every site on the first page of google search says he is.  I've never heard of him, but.....it seems he may have two eyes open.

What's wrong with being openly Palestinian?  Are they sub-human or something unworthy of being treated with dignity?

Is it treason if an Israeli supports the existence of Palestine?


Its not treason but its certainly odd behaviour.

Its akin to those fleeing persecution deciding to support Hitler's Nazis.

Peled is a trouble maker.
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Reply #354 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:45pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:36pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:34pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:37pm:
Peled is not a peace activist.

He is openly pro-Palestinian and he has verbally insulted Israeli troops, despite them being decent honest guys doing their national service.


Every site on the first page of google search says he is.  I've never heard of him, but.....it seems he may have two eyes open.

What's wrong with being openly Palestinian?  Are they sub-human or something unworthy of being treated with dignity?

Is it treason if an Israeli supports the existence of Palestine?


Its not treason but its certainly odd behaviour.

Its akin to those fleeing persecution deciding to support Hitler's Nazis.

Peled is a trouble maker.


Come on Andrei......the victim card is well overused.  This is not the times of Hitler........

This is Israel, not Germany.  It is not Europe.  It is Arabia where Israel decided it wanted to exist.  Palestine would also like to exist.

The entire Planet would like not to have to worry about that ticking time bomb.
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Reply #355 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:54pm
 
Israel DECIDED it wanted to exist?

That's like saying Aborigines decided they wanted to be from Australia.

Israelis belong in Israel. The land of Israel dates back to the Old Testament, it dates back to the word of God Himself to Abraham.

It's not just a created state out of nowhere. Jews have been in Jerusalem since the beginning of recorded history!

And yes flying the flag of people that have stabbed you, threatened to wipe you from the map, fired missile after missile at you, spend aid money not on people but building tunnels into Israel in which they can murder soldiers or civilians or take them captive.... yes that is akin to flying the flag of a state that wished to murder you.
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Reply #356 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:55pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:45pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:36pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 10:34pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:37pm:
Peled is not a peace activist.

He is openly pro-Palestinian and he has verbally insulted Israeli troops, despite them being decent honest guys doing their national service.


Every site on the first page of google search says he is.  I've never heard of him, but.....it seems he may have two eyes open.

What's wrong with being openly Palestinian?  Are they sub-human or something unworthy of being treated with dignity?

Is it treason if an Israeli supports the existence of Palestine?


Its not treason but its certainly odd behaviour.

Its akin to those fleeing persecution deciding to support Hitler's Nazis.

Peled is a trouble maker.


Come on Andrei......the victim card is well overused.  This is not the times of Hitler........

This is Israel, not Germany.  It is not Europe.  It is Arabia where Israel decided it wanted to exist.  Palestine would also like to exist.

The entire Planet would like not to have to worry about that ticking time bomb.


A Palestinian state eh?
Well that question was asked of the UNSC.

What do you reckon to this?

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Reply #357 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 11:03pm
 
We've discussed that before.  The USA veto was all that was required, no matter how we voted.  When the UN votes to accept Palestine as a Sate, will you (Israel) accept it?
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Reply #358 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 11:23pm
 
However it was impressive that Australia stood up to hold some moral ground in the vote.
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Reply #359 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 11:24pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 11:23pm:
However it was impressive that Australia stood up to hold some moral ground in the vote.


Or.....sucked a toe.


Mr Hicks....if Israel loses USA support, including financial and militarily, do you agree that Israel will use that bomb, and start the next World War?
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