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Reply #405 - Jun 3rd, 2016 at 10:30pm
 
I dont support stupid or lazy, sorry. Try someone else.
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Reply #406 - Jun 3rd, 2016 at 10:39pm
 
ian wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 10:30pm:
I dont support stupid or lazy, sorry. Try someone else.


Okay.  I guess you have no idea.  I remain.....all eyes.  Educate me.  Too stupid or too lazy to do so, which is it?  You are the all knowing, so get on with it.


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Reply #407 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 3:08pm
 
THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST
Article by Rabbi Gedalya Liebermann - Australia


This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism "the work of Satan", "a sacrilege" and "a blasphemy". He forbade any participation with anything even remotely associated with Zionism and said that Zionism was bound to call the wrath of G-d upon His people. He maintained this stance with unwavering bravery from the onset of Zionism whilst he was still in Hungary up until his death in New York where he lead a congregation numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Grand Rabbi Teitelbaum, scion to a legacy of holy mystics and Hassidic Masters unfortunately had his prediction fulfilled. We lost more than six million of our brothers, sisters, sons and daughters in a very horrible manner. This, more than six million holy people had to experience as punishment for the Zionist stupidity. The Holocaust, he wept, was a direct result of Zionism, a punishment from G-d.

But it doesn't end there. It wasn't enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination. Just the idea alone of Zionism, which the rabbis had informed them would cause havoc, was not enough for them. They made an effort to pour fuel on an already burning flame. They had to incite the Angel of Death, Adolf Hitler. They took the liberty of telling the world that they represented World Jewry. Who appointed these individuals as leaders of the Jewish People?? It is no secret that these so-called "leaders" were ignoramuses when it came to Judaism. Atheists and racists too. These are the "statesmen" who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant - but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist "statesmen" forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy. Genocide began, but these people, if they can really be classified as members of the human race, sat back.

"No Shame"

the rest @  http://www.truetorahjews.org/lieberman
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Reply #408 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 3:13pm
 
BDS says Israel behind cyber-attacks on its pro-Palestinian website


Jun 3, 2016

The leading international campaign advocating anti-Israel economic boycotts says its website came under cyber-attacks for several times this year, suggesting the Tel Aviv regime was involved in the attacks.

The Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement said in a report on Thursday that its website was attacked six times in February and March.

The report, which was compiled by an online security service, eQualit.ie, said the cyber-attacks had a level of “sophistication and commitment” and knocked out the website for several hours each time.

It also said that the websites of six BDS organizations in Europe and the US as well as a website of an Israeli human rights group were also attacked at the same time, showing that there was a “common adversary.”

“Advanced technology used in the attacks and the size of the botnets involved may show that Israel was directly involved,” the BDS said in a statement.

The BDS movement was initiated in 2005 by over 170 Palestinian organizations that were pushing for “various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets its obligations under international law.”

Thousands of volunteers worldwide have joined the BDS ever since to help promote the Palestinian cause.

Mahmoud Nawajaa, general coordinator of the BDS, said the latest attacks on the anti-Israel movement’s website was part of “a full-fledged Israeli war on the movement that includes use of intelligence services and yet more funding for ‘brand Israel’ propaganda. These attacks smack of Israel’s despair at its growing isolation.”

He also noted that Israel has shot itself in the foot through launching the cyber-attack campaigns against the BDS, as three European countries and human rights organizations have supported the BDS movement.

“Israel today admits that it has failed to stop the impressive growth of BDS in mainstream circles, mainly due to the inspiring collective action of thousands of dedicated, conscientious activists and organizations around the world,” Nawajaa also said.

“But Israel’s shift to the racist far-right, dropping its mask and revealing its true face as a regime of occupation, colonization and apartheid like never before, has certainly accelerated BDS support worldwide,” he added.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/06/03/468729/Israel-BDS-Nawajaa-Palestinian

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Reply #409 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 3:25pm
 
January 8, 2015,


Hackers develop tech tools to grapple with BDS

Dozens of college students compete for three days to create digital tools to defend Israel.

It takes a network to fight a network: in this case, a network of pro-Israel hackers to battle the network of boycotters that Israel has to contend with online and in the real world.

Thus was born the idea for “Firewall,” described as the first Israel Legitimacy Hackathon, a three-day contest held in Tel Aviv this week to produce digital tools to fight the delegitimization campaign being waged against the State of Israel’s right to exist.

And the winner was version 2.0 of the Virtual War Room (VWR), a site allowing activists from around the world to defend Israel in real time, online.

For their work, the students at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya behind the war room took home a $5,000 prize. The team automated a project they began during Israel’s summer war against Hamas-led fighters in Gaza that helped counter the incessant chatter against Israel on news and opinion sites around the world.

“Israel is being faced with a new type of challenge,” noted Tel Aviv’s Reut Institute, which organized the event. “Delegitimizers are using technological tools, like social media, to more effectively organize and communicate their message. Those who support Israel’s right to exist need an innovative set of tools that leverages our technological strengths and compensates for our numerical disadvantage. This hackathon aims to create these technological tools.”

Firewall saw dozens of teams gathered for 72 hours of hacking and web organizing – with the IDC students coming in first for an advanced and enhanced model of the project they first tried over the summer. The IDC’s Virtual War Room, which operated during Operation Protective Edge, saw hundreds of students monitor web sites in 34 languages and 61 countries for anti-Israel comments and propaganda. The students countered the comments and links about the IDF’s “evil” activities in Gaza with Israel’s side of the story.

For the hackathon, the IDC students turned what had been a manual effort – with hundreds of people checking out web sites, reading the comments, and responding – into a web platform that would automatically seek out comments of interest, and allow pro-Israel activists to quickly respond appropriately using prepared materials and pinpointed responses on a platform that could be managed by just a small group.

This week’s event was open to college-age students, and drew participants from Israel, the United States, Canada, Argentina, South America, Sweden, and Great Britain. In addition, a high-school team from the central Israel community of Maccabim-Reut participated after getting special permission from their school administration. Said Oded Anter, one of the students: “In just a few months we will be joining the IDF, and our minds are focused on protecting and defending the State of Israel. Working on apps like these is much more interesting than developing pointless games or coming up with ideas for new start-ups.”

The Reut Institute is a policy group concerned with helping to shape the future of Israeli society. Established in 2004, Reut has worked closely with every Israeli government, producing studies and position papers on everything from security to the high price of consumer goods to the role of the diaspora in modern Jewish life. The group also runs numerous programs to encourage women, Arabs, and the disenfranchised to share the bounty of Israeli society, as part of its “Israel 15” vision – referring to efforts to make Israel among the top 15 most prosperous, equitable, and livable societies in the world.

As a result, the Institute has sponsored cutting-edge events and programs, such as XLN Labs, Israel’s first open-source 3D printer lab. Last summer, Reut and XLN sponsored a 3D printer hackathon to produce devices and products to make life easier for the disabled.

The Firewall hackathon is right in line with Reut’s work, said Director Gidi Grinstein. “Reut is all about Tikkun Olam, making the world a better place. We are Israel’s leading social innovation organization that focuses on strategic research and development for Israel. Our work focuses on identifying relevancy gaps between the work of the decision makers and the reality on the ground in the fields of social–economic development, the Jewish world, Israel’s national security, and this event, we believe, will contribute greatly to those goals.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/hackers-develop-tech-tools-to-take-on-bds-crowd/
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Reply #410 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 3:38pm
 
West Bank stabbing attempt: Female Palestinian attacks IDF soldiers, is shot dead


A Palestinian woman was shot and killed on Thursday after she tried stabbing IDF soldiers in the northern West Bank.

The IDF said that the knife-wielding Palestinian woman arrived at a military post near the Palestinian town of Anabta, where she tried attacking nearby troops. The soldiers reportedly left their guard post and initially tried apprehending the woman before firing shots at her.

There were no injuries among the Israelis. 





While the frequency of lone-wolf violence that plagued Israel in recent months has simmered down, sporadic attacks continue to occur.

Earlier in the week, a Palestinian teenager stabbed and lightly wounded a soldier in Tel Aviv in what police and the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) were investigating as a likely terrorist attack.

Police said Monday that a Palestinian teen with a screwdriver stabbed and lightly wounded a 19-year-old soldier at the scene, before he was cornered by bystanders in an apartment building nearby.




Prior to that, on May 23, a Palestinian woman was shot dead after she attempted to stab security forces at a checkpoint north of Jerusalem.

According to a Border Police statement, the Palestinian woman arrived at the Ras Bidu checkpoint near Givat Ze’ev and was approached by officers “who thought she appeared suspicious.”

The officers then asked her to stop and fired warning shots in the air, but she then ran toward them brandishing a knife and was shot by the officers, the statement read.
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Initial-report-Female-assistant-attempts-to-stab-IDF-soldiers-in-West-Bank-455737
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Reply #411 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 3:52pm
 
Israeli Anthropologists Support the Boycott


April 6, 2016

Anthropologists for the Boycott of Israeli Academic Institutions is pleased to share this letter we received from 22 Israeli anthropologists endorsing the boycott. As anthropologists critical of state power, who object to Israel’s gross violations of international law and crimes against humanity committed in their names, they urge members of the American Anthropological Association to support them and their Palestinian colleagues in putting pressure on the Israeli state by boycotting the academic institutions which are complicit in these violations and crimes. Due to the increasing atmosphere of intimidation and threats against boycott supporters in Israel, they have all signed anonymously as a collective.

We, the undersigned anthropologists, Israelis and citizens of Israel:


    endorse the vote from the 2015 AAA Business Meeting in favor of an academic boycott of Israeli institutions,
    urge our colleagues in the AAA to vote in favor of the resolution for Academic Boycott,
    reject spurious arguments that blame boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) measures for the rise of the Israeli right, and that the AAA academic boycott is targeting Israeli anthropologists and moderates.


We, the undersigned anthropologists, Israelis and citizens of Israel, concerned about the devastating continuation of colonial dispossession in Israel/Palestine, applaud the courageous stance of members at the 2015 business meeting of the American Anthropological Association (AAA) who, overwhelmingly, by 88%, voted to boycott Israeli academic institutions—a decision that must be ratified in a final electronic membership vote April 15 to May 31. We urge our colleagues in the AAA to vote in favor of this resolution. We believe that an academic boycott puts pressure on the Israeli government to advance our common goal of a just peace for all the inhabitants of this land.

We believe this pressure is vital, and we especially reject any spurious arguments that attempt to blame boycotts, divestments, sanctions (BDS) measures for the rise of the Israeli right. The crisis situation we now face is the result of long political history, in which Israeli politicians have been undermining the possibility for a just two-state solution since settlement activity began in the 1960s. Blaming BDS for the chilling political reality in Israel is a new form of “blaming the victim,” as Edward Said put it long ago.

The call for boycott is not the result of a happy situation, but the outcome of a frightening occupation that destroys Palestinian life and welfare. To quote one critic of academic boycott, Dan Rabinowitz, it is “the disturbing policies which resemble those practiced by the Apartheid regime of South Africa” that produce support for this resolution.

Critics often claim that the boycott undermines the “two-state solution,” making disingenuous claims that the majority of Israelis support this position. No remotely possible governing coalition currently supports any semblance of a just two-state solution (for leading politicians making the case against the two-state solution, see here and here). Further, dissent even among Israeli Jews is under attack, as ruling politicians and extremist, racist groups like Im Tirtzu and Lehava whip up public hysteria against NGOs that attempt to protect Palestinian human rights. No doubt, when our colleagues write about the curbing of dissent in Israel, it is this reality that they are registering.

We agree that we have reached a crisis point, where under certain international conditions, another mass expulsion of Palestinians could occur—or worse. A recent Pew report, based on 3800 interviews with Israeli Jews between October 2014 and May 2015 found that 79% of Israeli Jews (strongly) agree that Jews “deserve preferential treatment in Israel,” and 48% of Israeli Jews (strongly) agree that “Arabs should be expelled or transferred from Israel.”  That is, the Israeli Jewish population overwhelmingly favors the institutionalized racial supremacy of Jews, and a plurality favor outright ethnic cleansing.

We believe it is possible to take a positive stand against this reality. The Palestinian call for BDS is at its core an anti-colonial, non-violent form of international protest against an enormously violent occupation. The AAA resolution calling for an academic boycott does not target Israeli anthropologists nor moderates. It is targeting the frightening and murderous military regime over Palestinian life that shows no signs of ending. It is responding to the urgent need for international condemnation of this regime. Even critics like Rabinowitz recognize this, writing: “I also agree that BDS has dramatically enhanced global awareness of the situation in Israel and Palestine, successfully propelling a realization in the West of the urgent need for meaningful change.”

...................http://savageminds.org/2016/04/06/israeli-anthropologists-support-the-boycott/
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Reply #412 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 5:27pm
 
The Lost Voices of Gaza: Talibanization of the Strip


Rather than acting for the citizens of Gaza, Hamas has been strangling dissent and enforcing its particular extremist vision of society ever since taking power in 2006. At home and around the world, the terrorist group now in control of the Gaza Strip holds a Taliban-like grip over its citizens.


When the Hamas terrorist organization took control of Gaza in 2006, Hamas official Nizar Rayyan proclaimed “the end of secularism and heresy in the Gaza Strip.” Hamas quickly got to work manifesting its extremist Islamist vision of society enshrined in its to-date unchanged charter, which calls for the full implementation of Islamic law. Since then, Hamas has been accused at home and in the international arena of imposing a Taliban model of society on Gaza.
What does Talibinization really mean?

According to Professor Francesca Giovannini of the University of California Berkeley in her book The Fundamentalist City?: Religiosity and the Remaking of Urban Space (2011), the term talibanization usually “implies a number of conditions: the strict regulation of women; the prohibition of entertainment including music, movies, dance and television; the enforcement of a specific religious appearance…the aggressive enforcement of regulations of personal conduct…the oppression of Muslim minorities including Shi’a; the harboring of Islamic militia operatives…and last but not least discrimination against non-Muslims.”

Prof. Giovannini’s conditions of talibanization were not written with Hamas specifically in mind, and yet, the terrorist group in control of Gaza is guilty of almost all of these conditions listed.

Women’s rights in Gaza

Hamas’ enforcement of its extremist and myopic vision of society has particularly discriminated against women. Hamas “morality police” have punished women for riding scooters behind men, smoking cigarettes or water pipes in public, leaving their hair uncovered, dressing “inappropriately” (i.e. in Western-style or close-fitting clothing, such as jeans or T-shirts), and have forbidden women from dancing in public events. Single women accompanied by men have been stopped by policemen in civilian clothing, separated and questioned to determine whether they are married.

In the summer of 2009, a “virtue campaign” was launched that required female lawyers to wear headscarves and prevented gender mixing in public places. Recently, Al Aqsa University, a public university in Gaza, introduced an Islamic dress code for women. Female students of Al Aqsa, long considered a home of political and intellectual diversity, must now follow a strict dress code, including wearing an abaya (cloak) and hijab (veil) while on campus.

Earlier in 2013, a marathon that was meant to take place on April 10, was cancelled by the event’s sponsor and organizer UNWRA. The reason for the event’s cancellation was because of Hamas’ decision to not allow women to participate.

Men also suffer from Hamas’ will to mold society to its image. Hamas has imposed a ban on low-waisted trousers and Western-style haircuts. The decision is directed against young Palestinian men in the Gaza Strip, whom Hamas fears have been inculcated with Western values by way of television and the internet.
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Reply #413 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 7:42pm
 
Israeli Defense Forces General Likens Israel To 1930s Germany On Holocaust Remembrance Day


May 16, 2016

f there is anything that frightens me in remembrance of the Holocaust, it is noticing horrific processes which developed … in Germany – 70, 80, and 90 years ago, and finding evidence of them here among us in the year 2016,’ Maj. Gen. Yair Golan told an audience earlier this month.

SEATTLE — Yom HaShoah, or Holocaust Remembrance Day, was commemorated in Israel and throughout the Jewish world earlier this month with solemn ceremonies of remembrance. But one speech rocked Israel with its moral criticism of Israeli society.

Speaking to an audience gathered at Tel Yitzhak, a kibbutz in central Israel, Maj. Gen. Yair Golan, the Israeli Defense Forces deputy chief of staff, warned Israel that the Jewish state threatened to fall into a moral chasm like the one that befell Nazi Germany for its treatment of “foreigners” — read: Palestinians and African refugees.

Here are some of his remarks [author’s translation]:

[i]“The Holocaust should bring us to ponder our public lives and, furthermore, it must lead anyone who is capable of taking public responsibility to do so. … Because if there is anything that frightens me in remembrance of the Holocaust, it is noticing horrific processes which developed … in Germany – 70, 80, and 90 years ago, and finding evidence of them here among us in the year 2016.”

“The Holocaust … must bring us to … deep soul-searching regarding the responsibility of [our national] leadership and the quality of our society. It must lead us to fundamentally rethink how we, here and now, behave towards the other: the foreigner, the widow and the orphan [these are traditional Jewish social justice concepts].”

“There is nothing easier and simpler than hating the foreigner … There is nothing easier and simpler than fear-mongering and making threats. There is nothing easier and simpler than behaving brutishly, being indifferent [to the plight of the Other], and self-righteous.”

“On Holocaust Remembrance Day, it is worthwhile to consider our capacity to uproot the first buds of intolerance, violence, and self-destruction that lie on the path toward moral decay.”


In his speech, Golan refers in particular to the extraordinary level of incitement, hate and violence in Israeli society toward “foreigners.” Since the current round of violence began in the fall, 200 Palestinians have been killed. The majority have been Palestinians who attacked Israeli soldiers and police to protest Israeli encroachment on Jerusalem’s Muslim holy sites. But close to one-quarter of the Palestinian dead have been civilians murdered by Israeli forces in incidents like this and this.

Window-dressing a deadly, pervasive problem

The IDF’s deputy chief of staff also referenced the murder of a young Palestinian man at a Hebron checkpoint in March, which was filmed by a Palestinian videographer. The graphic evidence offered by the video raised a storm of controversy within Israel, with most excusing the shooting or even lionizing the IDF shooter, whose name I first identified when it was under Israeli gag order.

Feeling compelled to act to protect its international image, the army medic who turned his gun on the incapacitated Palestinian lying on the street was charged with negligent homicide by the IDF. He is being tried in military court.

Golan’s speech highlighted the supposedly high moral standards of the IDF in prosecuting its own soldier. The legal proceedings pointed, he maintained, to a standard he urged Israel itself to emulate in its relations with Palestinians. The problem is that much of this is window-dressing. Scores of unarmed Palestinians have been killed in very similar circumstances, but only when there is a camera on hand in possession of a Palestinian or peace activist is there any accountability.

Proof of this may be seen in a tragic incident on April 27. Private Israeli security guards at Qalandiya West Bank checkpoint murdered a 23-year-old Palestinian mother who was five months pregnant and her teenage brother. The latter had secured a permit to attend a medical appointment in Israel, and they were navigating the Qalandiya checkpoint for the first time. They inadvertently entered the vehicle lane and misunderstood Hebrew language commands to retreat. Israeli forces claimed the two “threw knives” at the guards, but Palestinian eyewitnesses say the shooter was 60 feet from the brother and sister and seemingly not in any danger. They also claim the pair did not have knives, and the weapons were planted on their bodies afterward. Though there are security cameras monitoring the spot, the IDF refuses to make the footage available.

To add insult to injury, the Guardian’s Peter Beaumont reported that the young mother had committed “suicide by IDF,” as if a woman who was five months pregnant and with three young children would do such a thing. This is likely an idea planted in the journalist’s mind by official Israeli spin doctors who have launched false rumors blaming victims for their own murders in similar cases.
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Evidence of collaboration between early Zionist leaders and the Nazis

Returning to Golan’s Yom HaShoah speech, considering the sensitivity with which Israel treats the Holocaust, it’s extraordinary for an active duty member of the senior military command to warn Israel that it threatened to fall into a moral chasm like the one that befell Nazi Germany. It must be seen as a clarion call from the nation’s most significant institution, urging a drawback from the abyss. 

Characteristically, Golan was savaged for his outspokenness by far-right government ministers who harbor some of the same racist attitudes the major general was attacking.

In this context, it’s worth examining a political controversy inflaming the British chattering and political classes. This one has inundated the Labour Party’s left-wing leadership with controversial attacks by the British pro-Israel lobby and the largely pro-Tory press.

The debate has spilled over into the American media as well. Raw Story published a piece by Prof. Rainer Schulze which largely supports the notion that London’s former left-wing mayor, Ken Livingstone, has crossed a bright red line by claiming that Adolf Hitler “supported Zionism.”

The facts are far more complicated than Schulze makes them out to be. First, Livingstone’s claim, while overstated, is by no means a “historical error.” In fact, there is ample historical evidence that the Zionist leaders of the 1930s Yishuv and senior Nazi leaders collaborated in significant ways. Their collaboration was not based on shared values or principles, but on mutual self-interest. But that, of course, does not make the partnership less significant.

In 1933, German Zionist organizations, with the support of the Yishuv, signed the historic Transfer (“Haavara”) Agreement with Nazi authorities. It stayed in effect for nearly a decade and saved some 20,000 German Jews. But it is the method by which they were saved that is the most troubling: The Nazis liquidated the property of the emigrants and shipped Nazi goods of equal value to Israel where they were sold. Some of the proceeds of the sale were then returned to the emigrants when they resettled in Palestine.

For the Nazis, the deal solved critical needs. Germany faced an increasingly effective international boycott organized by American Zionists, led by Rabbi Stephen Wise. While the boycott had begun among the Jewish community here, it was beginning to resonate far beyond U.S. borders. Hitler had just begun to contemplate the military buildup that would eventually lead to World War II, and he knew an international boycott would destroy his rearmament effort.

Part of the deal meant that Wise and the American Zionists would call off the boycott. Thus ended one of the most promising attempts to strangle the Nazi infant in its cradle before it could grow up to wreak havoc on the world.

Further, in 1933 the German economy remained mired in the Great Depression and was also saddled with the onerous financial penalties of World War I reparations. The funds the Nazis looted from German Jews played a role in pumping needed cash into the economy.

Schulze minimizes and misconstrues both the history of the Nazi approach to the “Jewish Question” and the Transfer Agreement’s role in its evolution:

“While this implicitly always suggested murder and extermination, it took time until it became clear how this extermination could be effectively executed and until the Nazi authorities felt that such a radical ‘final solution’ could be pushed through.”

As the following sources show, it wasn’t until the early 1940s that it was clear that the Nazis had embraced the “Final Solution” of mass extermination. Prior to that, they had displayed a certain flexibility in their notions of how to deal with European Jewry.

‘Blood for Goods’

There is an even later and more obscure episode in the history of that era that involved negotiations between the Nazis and the Yishuv, in the form of the Jewish Agency. In 1944, a small group of Hungarian Jews established a rescue committee to try to save as many Jews from the Nazis as they could. Among them were Joel Brand and Rudolf Kastner, who would be assassinated in Israel in 1957. They contacted the Nazis to offer bribes in return for stopping the deportations to Auschwitz. Not only were the Germans amenable, none other than Adolf Eichmann, the architect of the Holocaust, met repeatedly with Brand and came up with a far more ambitious scheme. He appointed Brand to present it to the Jewish Agency, the foreign office of the Yishuv.

The plan would offer Jewish lives in return for supplies the Nazis desperately needed on the Russian front. Notably, 100,000 Jews would be freed (and permitted to emigrate to Palestine) for every 1,000 trucks the Jews or the Allies shipped to the Nazis. The plan was nicknamed “Blood for Goods.” A total of 1 million Jews were offered in return for up to 10,000 trucks.

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When Brand traveled to the Middle East to present the plan to the Jewish Agency, the latter appeared not to understand the gravity of the situation in Europe or the seriousness of Brand’s proposal. The agency had sent a lower level official to meet Brand. After Brand protested, the agency sent the far more senior Moshe Sharett, a future prime minister. When Brand told Sharett that 6 million Jews had already perished and that another 2 million would meet that fate unless the agency acted, Sharett reportedly looked at him as if he were a mad man.

But another factor proved even more decisive in arresting the plan: The British arrested Brand and imprisoned him in Egypt. They didn’t trust him or the plan. Brand never returned to Budapest to report to Eichmann, who in return began the mass deportations which led to the murder of 400,000 Hungarian Jews in Auschwitz.

The irony is that it was the British government which had an opportunity to negotiate to save the largest remaining intact Jewish community in Europe, but it refused to do so. If Britain wishes to debate anything, it might review the choices its leaders made in this decisive moment.

A red herring

In his recent report, Schulze seems fixated on the false notion that Livingstone is claiming the Nazis not only supported Zionists, but that they were Zionists. He writes:

“The Haavara Agreement does not mean the Nazis were ever Zionists. … These policies do not in any way resemble Zionism.”

At no point has Livingstone ever suggested they were, and Schulze sets up a red herring argument by claiming that he does.

Schulze appears to be unaware of this little known, but critical source praising the affinity of Zionism and Nazism. It is this glowing encomium penned by Reinhard Heydrich, the SS chief, in 1935, which was published in a leading SS publication. Francis Nicosia quotes it in his 1985 book, “The Third Reich and the Palestine Question”:

“‘National Socialism has no intention of attacking the Jewish people in any way. On the contrary, the recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood, and not as a religious one, leads the German government to guarantee the racial separateness of this community without any limitations. The government finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry itself, the so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry throughout the world and the rejection of all assimilationist ideas. On this basis, Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.’

Göring’s January 24, 1939, note to the Interior Ministry gave Heydrich the authority to determine which parts of the world were the most suitable destinations for Jewish emigrants. The SS had consistently favored Jewish emigration to Palestine and would continue to do so with its enhanced authority in emigration policy.”


It’s important to note that in 1935, the Nazis had yet to formulate their plan to exterminate European Jewry. That came in 1942, after the war terminated the opportunity to rid Europe of Jews via emigration. But regardless of this fact, it indicates that there was an affinity between senior Nazi leaders and Zionism.

Hitler, himself, may have viewed these matters differently, and so Livingstone’s claim is somewhat imprecise. But whatever reluctance the Nazi leader may have felt toward such arrangements was overwhelmed by the practical needs the Nazis had for material support the German Jewish plunder could provide.

Expressing genuine concern or exploiting a trope?

There were also significant elements in the Yishuv Zionist movement which returned the admiration Heydrich expressed above. The Irgun, the militant rightist movement founded by Ze’ev Jabotinsky, was eager not only to do business with the Nazis, as the Yishuv did, but to forge an alliance based on ideological affinity. The Irgun envisioned a Jewish state that would not be a democracy, but rather one based on the totalitarian ideals espoused by the Nazis:

“The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, and bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East.

Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom movement are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to actively take part in the war on Germany’s side.”


It’s important to note that the Irgun was considered the opposition to the majority Yishuv leadership. It was in the minority and would not take control of the state until 1977, under the leadership of Menachem Begin and later Yitzhak Shamir.

But the Irgun was a powerful force in pre-1948 Palestine. It conducted dramatic assassinations of British leaders and international negotiators like Count Bernadotte. The ruling Yishuv leadership often looked the other way at such mass violence. Some rightist violence was directed against indigenous Palestinians as well. The infamous 1948 attack on Deir Yassin was the work of Irgun “freedom fighters” under Begin’s leadership.

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Reply #416 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 7:53pm
 
It is absolutely false to label criticism like Livingstone’s as unfounded or anti-Semitic. It is, in fact, historically accurate. The real question is how one deals with the historical record. It would be far better for Israel’s supporters to accept the truth and critique the decisions made by the leaders of the Yishuv than it would be to smear those who summon history to criticize Israel.

The Kantor Center for the Study of Contemporary European Jewry at Tel Aviv University, an Israeli academic institute which studies world anti-Semitism, recorded a dramatic decrease in anti-Jewish acts around the world. There was a 50 percent drop from 2014 to 2015. Given these statistics, one wonders what exactly pro-Israel forces in Britain are worried about. Are they genuinely concerned about anti-Semitism, or are they exploiting a trope which they know will resonate among Jews and non-Jews alike, in order to sabotage the Labour Party’s left-wing leadership under Jeremy Corbyn?

There is an enormous danger in playing the anti-Semitism card in such a fashion. Like the boy who cried wolf, if you cry discrimination when there is none, there will come a time when you really need to warn the world of mortal danger to Jews, and no one won’t believe you because you abused their trust in the past. This would be a truly unfortunate development for Jews, Israel and the world.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/israeli-defense-forces-general-likens-israel-1930s-...
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Reply #417 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 8:32pm
 
Do you deny the holocaust happened?

You quote from many sources that say this.
Do you agree there was a holocaust?
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Reply #418 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 8:43pm
 
jmjcare wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 9:32pm:
Did someone ask for more history?

1933 - Zionists Sign a Deal with Hitler to Create Israel - The Transfer Agreement


1933 - Zionists Sign a Deal with Hitler to Create Israel - The Transfer Agreement.fl

The traditional view of the 'Holocaust', is that Adolph Hitler had an obsession with wiping out the Jews. But, if that were the case, why did he sign this deal with the Zionist movement to move northern European Jews (Khazars) to Israel?

https://archive.org/details/1933-ZionistsSignADealWithHitlerToCreateIsrael-TheTr...

http://www.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft%20Word%20-%203231.pdf



DIDNT HITLER SIGN A


PEACE  IN OUR TIME''


WITH the PM of Britain'' Neville Chamberlain...

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Reply #419 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 9:03pm
 
Hitler was a rabid crazed anti-Semite cods who caused a holocaust which saw the systemised murder of millions of Jews across Europe.
The rest were displaced around the world which is why so many have families across so many countries.

Sadly there are sites - which have been linked to on here - which refuse to acknowledge it ever happened.
Which frankly is appalling.
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