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Reply #510 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:54pm
 
Lionel Edriess wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:46pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:14pm:
No idea and do not care about why the Chinese built their Great Wall.  Was it so that a current model vehicle could have a name?


Not a historian, eh?

The reason the Chinese built the wall was to keep 'hostile' neighbours out. Not a bad effort in those days, apparently you can still see it from space.

We're lucky, we already have a couple of walls, they're called the Indian and the Pacific. We should put more effort into policing those walls.

Europe has gone to a great deal of effort to dismantle walls recently, the reward for their 'inclusiveness' has been murder and rape. No-one wanted to listen to Wilders. Le Pen was a 'radical'. Merkel almost facing revolt.

Now we have Pauline in the Senate and Trump running for President.

And you still won't answer the question - why?

The need for the next Crusade grows.

The West is already at war. It just hasn't been declared yet.




It has been declared.  How many times have you seen Leaders tell us there is a War with Terrorism.  The problem of the West is that (a) it seems not to understand the contribution it made to the commencement of this War it has declared, and (b) it expects the other side not to fight back.

Having said that, I notice you avoided telling me where the wall built by the Israelis is.

So, where is it?  Within the territory they were artificially handed in 1958, or is it somewhere on Land they have stolen from their neighbours....in entirely neighbourly fashion, of course.?
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Reply #511 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:16pm
 

Aussie wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:54pm:
It has been declared.  How many times have you seen Leaders tell us there is a War with Terrorism. ...


No, it hasn't been declared. The fight isn't against 'terrorism', it's against Islam.

Nothing has changed in the original Islamic charter. We are still fighting the same ideology we just barely defeated at Vienna.

Nothing distracts like deception.

While the whole world stands aghast at the atrocities committed by ISIL and 'radical' extremism, the flood of Islam continues into Europe and the West under the guise of 'refugees'. Be it economic reasons or persecution they are fleeing, all these 'refugees' want to sponge off the Great Satan - our societies with no intention of assimilation. That is forbidden by their 'religion'.

You can spout all the platitudes you like. You, and the MSM, will not utter the M word.

You will not, do not, see.

Ignoramus? Or apologist?
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Reply #512 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:21pm
 
Lionel Edriess wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:54pm:
It has been declared.  How many times have you seen Leaders tell us there is a War with Terrorism. ...


No, it hasn't been declared. The fight isn't against 'terrorism', it's against Islam.

Nothing has changed in the original Islamic charter. We are still fighting the same ideology we just barely defeated at Vienna.

Nothing distracts like deception.

While the whole world stands aghast at the atrocities committed by ISIL and 'radical' extremism, the flood of Islam continues into Europe and the West under the guise of 'refugees'. Be it economic reasons or persecution they are fleeing, all these 'refugees' want to sponge off the Great Satan - our societies with no intention of assimilation. That is forbidden by their 'religion'.

You can spout all the platitudes you like. You, and the MSM, will not utter the M word.

You will not, do not, see.

Ignoramus? Or apologist?


Neither, and I am certainly not hysterical.

I see you still did not answer my question.  Would like me to ask it again, Lionel?

Would you care to declare your hand here?

Link.
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Reply #513 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:26pm
 

Aussie wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:21pm:
Lionel Edriess wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:54pm:
It has been declared.  How many times have you seen Leaders tell us there is a War with Terrorism. ...


No, it hasn't been declared. The fight isn't against 'terrorism', it's against Islam.

Nothing has changed in the original Islamic charter. We are still fighting the same ideology we just barely defeated at Vienna.

Nothing distracts like deception.

While the whole world stands aghast at the atrocities committed by ISIL and 'radical' extremism, the flood of Islam continues into Europe and the West under the guise of 'refugees'. Be it economic reasons or persecution they are fleeing, all these 'refugees' want to sponge off the Great Satan - our societies with no intention of assimilation. That is forbidden by their 'religion'.

You can spout all the platitudes you like. You, and the MSM, will not utter the M word.

You will not, do not, see.

Ignoramus? Or apologist?


Neither, and I am certainly not hysterical.

I see you still did not answer my question.  Would like me to ask it again, Lionel?

Would you care to declare your hand here?

Link.


Oh, please do.

I saw a number of question marks. I was at a loss.


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Reply #514 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:29pm
 
That Wall you referred to.  Not the Chinese variety.

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So, where is it?  Within the territory they were artificially handed in 1958, or is it somewhere on Land they have stolen from their neighbours....in entirely neighbourly fashion, of course.?
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Reply #515 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:46pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:29pm:
That Wall you referred to.  Not the Chinese variety.

So, where is it?  Within the territory they were artificially handed in 1958, or is it somewhere on Land they have stolen from their neighbours....in entirely neighbourly fashion, of course.?


You wanted me to answer a question - see the post above your last.

Now I have two question marks in this one and nothing in context.

With 35 pages here, you might have to place your question in context.

State your case and ask your question.


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Reply #516 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:53pm
 
See the very recent Post # 503.

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Where are they building these walls?  In disputed territory, or within the boundaries of what the UN gave them in 1958/9?


Clear enough Lionel?
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Reply #517 - Aug 6th, 2016 at 11:41pm
 

Aussie wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:53pm:
See the very recent Post # 503.

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Where are they building these walls?  In disputed territory, or within the boundaries of what the UN gave them in 1958/9?


Clear enough Lionel?


Fair enough.

In answer to your first question, I would hazard a guess and say that they are building these walls where they are allowed to do so. I cannot imagine a bureaucracy like the UN allowing anything else. As for their reasons, I would have thought that they were quite obvious.

With regard to their boundaries and placement, given the current make-up and sympathies of the UN, I imagine that they hug the legal boundaries. Disputed territory is an area that I could not comment on. I think that is still under 'discussion'.

In a hostile neighbourhood, you do the best you can. The Chinese knew that.

Here, watch a video and sort it out yourself:



I think Trump has these guys under contract.


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Reply #518 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 9:30pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 8:17pm:
But of course this hack on here is biased, an anti Semite who has quoted anti Semitic and nazi websites.
He'll never admit that.



How can I be an anti semite when the Palestinian are the true semite of the region????

Recent peer-reviewed Johns Hopkins genetic research by a respected Judaic MD shows that 97.5% of Judaics living in Israel have absolutely no ancient Hebrew DNA, are therefore not Semites, and have no ancient blood ties to the land of Palestine at all. By contrast, 80% of Palestinians carry ancient Hebrew DNA and thus are real Semites, and have ancient blood ties to Palestinian Land. This means that the real anti-Semites are the Israelis who are stealing Palestinian lands in order to build Israeli settlements, and it is the Israelis who are the ones tyrannizing and mass-murdering innocent Palestinians.

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Reply #519 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 9:38pm
 
No because posting up stormfront, Iranian sponsored Press TV, Eletronic Intifada....
And never posting one article critical of Palestinian terror...

You don't think that puts you up as totally biased?
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Reply #520 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 9:58pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 9:38pm:

No because posting up stormfront, Iranian sponsored Press TV, Eletronic Intifada....
And never posting one article critical of Palestinian terror...

You don't think that puts you up as totally biased?





There is nothing wrong with being partisan Andrei.

I don't want to be one of those 'tolerant' softco ck lefties!!


e.g.
I don't want to be like this guy.......


Google;
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Of course, people like Aussie and jmjcare are partisans too.

They too, are people who are 'nailing their breeches to the mast', so to speak.

And that is a good thing.




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I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16  So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.


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Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

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Reply #521 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 10:15pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 9:38pm:
No because posting up stormfront, Iranian sponsored Press TV, Eletronic Intifada....
And never posting one article critical of Palestinian terror...

You don't think that puts you up as totally biased?


No I'm not biased I cannot find any great things the Zionist Israeli government has done for the Palestinians?

Why haven't you posted about that?  All I see is Palestinians fighting for their land and rights do you blame them for doing that?

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Reply #522 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 10:32pm
 
PLO slams Israel's plan to seize private Palestinian land


Aug 7, 2016

The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) says Israel is after stealing the entire Palestinian territories through confiscating more private land in the occupied West Bank.

In a statement released on Saturday, the PLO’s National Bureau to Defend Land warned of the “dangerous” consequences of a plan by the Tel Aviv regime to resettle evacuees from the illegal Amona settlement outpost in the central West Bank to a nearby privately-owned piece of Palestinian land.

The PLO said the “unprecedented” measure is aimed at “swallowing” more Palestinian land.

Recently, Israeli media reported that a committee tasked with relocating Amona settlers has proposed leasing the privately-held Palestinian properties near the outpost to the Israelis for three years, with possible extension.

Some 140 new illegal housing units are expected to be built on the Palestinian land, with 40 of them reserved for families evacuated from Amona. The Palestinian owners reportedly live abroad.

Israel’s Supreme Court has ruled that the Amona settlement outpost is illegal and ordered the demolition of all its 41 settler units by the end of 2016.

The court has on several occasions ordered that Amona should be dismantled; however, Tel Aviv has repeatedly put off razing the site.

Established in 1997, Amona is the largest of about 100 unauthorized outposts in the occupied West Bank.

A partial evacuation a decade ago sparked violent clashes between settlers and Israeli forces.

Meanwhile, Israeli human rights watchdog Peace Now slammed the Israeli plan to grab more Palestinian land, saying it would “create an opening for the takeover of tens of thousands of dunams in the West Bank.

“The scope of absentees’ property is estimated at around 100,000 dunams (double the size of Tel Aviv and similar to the land taken up by all of the settlements today),” it added, warning that the move would constitute “the crossing of a red line” and pave the way for the construction of even more unauthorized settlements across the West Bank.

Israel “will crush the basic rights of Palestinians under its rule in the occupied territories, while violating international law -- all out of the will to comply to the demands of a group of settlers that established an illegal outpost on stolen Palestinian land with the backing of the government,” the group added.

The presence and continued expansion of Israeli settlements in occupied Palestine has created a major obstacle for the efforts to establish peace in the Middle East.

Over half a million Israelis live in more than 230 illegal settlements built since the 1967 Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories of the West Bank including East al-Quds.

All Israeli settlements are illegal under the international law. Tel Aviv has defied calls to stop the settlement expansions in the occupied Palestinian territories.

A latest report by the Quartet on the Middle East called on the Israeli regime to halt its illegal settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territories, saying the settlement expansion, the demolition of Palestinian homes and the expropriation of land were “steadily eroding the viability” of a solution to their conflict.

http://presstv.com/Detail/2016/08/07/478862/Palestine-PLO-Israel-Amona
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Reply #523 - Aug 9th, 2016 at 10:09pm
 
New Israeli task force set to ‘crush any boycott’ & deport foreign BDS activists


9 Aug, 2016

Israel has formed a new joint ministerial task force to track down and deport Boycott, Divest and Sanctions (BDS) movement activists that, according to Jewish officials, delegitimize and destroy the country from within.

The BDS international activists work to end international support for what they believe is Israel’s “oppression of Palestinians.” BDS calls for boycotts, sanctions, and divestment from Israel. Tel Aviv, however, views the movement as a threat to its national security.

The new task force announced Sunday by Strategic Affairs Minister Gilad Erdan and Interior Minister Arye Dery will effectively spy on hundreds of activists as well as organizations in the country. The data collected will then be used to identify foreign BDS activists and build a case against them, to deport and deny them future entry to Israel.

The task force “is a necessary step in light of the malicious intentions of delegitimizing activists who work to spread lies and twist the truth about the reality in our region,” Erdan said.

“We have a responsibility to do everything possible to crush any boycott and to state clearly that we will not allow the State of Israel to be harmed,” added Deri. The statement also accused dozens of anti-Israel groups of trying to gather information to be used in “delegitimizing” Israel.

Haaretz reported citing a government source that several foreign activists have already been identified by Israeli intelligence, with many entering Israel as tourists. The task force will now define “the criteria by which a foreign activist will be marked for deportation or barred from entry.” The official added that police representatives also agreed that BDS activists are provoking Palestinians in the West Bank to clash with Israeli forces.

Earlier on Sunday, the director-general of the Strategic Affairs Ministry praised the government's campaigns against the BDS movement, as Sima Vaknin-Gil spoke of international delegitimization of Israel as a threat to the state.

“The bottom line is that today, among nations of the world, Israel is seen as a pariah state,” she said promising to present a propaganda narrative that will replace that of boycotts and delegitimization. “Our goal is that by 2025, no one will question whether the State of Israel has the right to exist.”

Earlier this week, a Swiss BDS activist, Rita Faye, was deported from Israel after landing at Ben Gurion International Airport. According to local media reports, she was well known to the IDF for her harassment of Israeli soldiers at checkpoint crossings.

https://www.rt.com/news/355021-israel-taskforce-boycott-activists/
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Reply #524 - Aug 9th, 2016 at 10:24pm
 
Jews Outraged As Canadian Greens Endorse BDS Against Leader’s Recommendation


August 8th, 2016

Canadian Jewish groups are furious at the Canadian Green Party for passing a resolution supporting boycott, divestment and sanctions movement (BDS) against Israel over the weekend. The party’s national convention in Ottawa adopted a policy resolution declaring support for the use of BDS targeted at the sectors of Israel’s economy and society which profit from the “ongoing occupation … until such time as Israel implements a permanent ban on further settlement construction in [Judea and Samaria], and enters into good faith negotiations with representatives of the Palestinian people for the purpose of establishing a viable, contiguous and truly sovereign Palestinian state.”

The resolution passed over the objection of Green Party leader Elizabeth May, who said she prefers to endorse “action that can work,” and told a workshop meeting about the policy: “I would rather not, as leader, be leading a party that has endorsed BDS.”

“This is a perfectly legitimate movement,” May continued, “There is nothing illegal about it, and within the Charter of Rights of Freedoms. So, I am uncomfortable with the demonization of this movement. But there is for me, no question that there’s a better way to put pressure on Israel, bearing in mind the history of Israel; the fact that it’s, I think, a tactic that won’t work.”

“We need a two-state solution, and the way things are going there will be no Palestine for a two-state solution,” May said. “So it comes to the point where, what’s our best method going forward? And I think tactics like BDS, that make the people and the state of Israel think that they are under assault, and that they have lost allies and friends around the world, is not going to succeed.”

Paul Estrin, who is Jewish and a former President of the Green Party, wrote on Facebook before the vote that “a vote for BDS is a vote by those who seek the delegitimization of Israel, and ultimately seek to have it, and its population, wiped off the map.” Estrin was forced to step down as party president in 2014 over his pro-Israel views.

Another policy resolution that called on the Canada Revenue Agency to revoke the charitable status of the Jewish National Fund of Canada, passed committee by a comfortable margin, only to be modified later by the party leadership, which removed the J word from it altogether, and turned it into a call on the CRA “to revoke the charitable status of or to refrain from conferring charitable status upon any organization that is complicit in the violation of Canadian or international human rights law.”

Canadian Jewish organizations reacted swiftly and harshly to the pro-BDS resolution. Michael Mostyn, Chief Executive Officer of B’nai Brith Canada, issued a statement saying, “With the Green Party’s support for unfairly singling out the world’s only Jewish state for contempt, it has firmly entrenched itself beyond the fringe of mainstream Canadian politics. Greens have chosen to embrace the policy position of shills for 9/11 conspiracy theories and terror apologists rather than side with the democratic and environmentally-friendly State of Israel. This clearly reflects how out of touch the Green Party has become with Canadian culture and values and it has made itself less relevant after its convention this weekend by voting for the politics of division and demonization.”

“All Canadians should be very concerned by these developments,” Mostyn added. “A political party with representation in Parliament chose to adopt an anti-Semitic policy, contrary to a recent resolution in Parliament condemning BDS as discriminatory. B’nai Brith will continue to expose the bigotry that festers within Green Party ranks.”

The Center for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA), the advocacy agent of the Jewish Federations of Canada-UIA, issued a statement saying, “We condemn the Green Party’s decision to endorse this outrageous resolution. The BDS movement, which seeks to censor and blacklist Israelis, is fundamentally discriminatory and utterly at odds with Canadian values.” The statement continued: “Green Party leader Elizabeth May was right to oppose this toxic initiative as well as the disturbing assault on JNF, in keeping with her longstanding rejection of BDS.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/jews-outraged-as-canadian-greens-e...
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