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Zionist Crime - The father of 6 daughter

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it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 17^th, 2015 at 10:42am:


How do you think the lord creator will judge Hamas.

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 18^th, 2015 at 11:55am:


I don't know your personal circumstances, maybe you cant read or maybe you only read headlines but in you link it quite clearly states:
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I'm not going to discount that you would believe that Sheikh Ahmed Ismail Hassan Yassin is a mossad operative it would fit in very nicely with you beliefs.

Israeli Forces Fatally Shot Two Palestinians While no Longer Posing Danger, says Human rights Group

TEL AVIV, October 18, 2015 (WAFA) – Two Palestinians who were recently shot dead by Israeli security forces did not pose any threat to the Israeli forces, and were only “shot to be killed”, according to a report by B’Tselem, an Israeli human rights information center.

It said that  video footage of two incidents - out of 13 cases where Palestinians were shot to death for stabbing or attempting to stab Israelis or when suspected to do so - published by the media raises grave concern that the security forces “shot to kill, even when it was clear that the Palestinians no longer posed a threat and could be apprehended in other ways”.

On October 14, Israeli police and Border Police officers shot and killed Basel Sidr, 20, close to Damascus Gate, an entrance to the Old City of Jerusalem. According to the police report, Sidr drew a knife and ran towards Border Police officers, who responded immediately by shooting at him. Sidr changed direction and ran towards other police officers, who fired at him after the Border Police officers called out to them.

In two segments of video footage published by the media, Sidr is seen shot while running with a knife in hand. However, B’Tselem said, the shooting continued even after he fell down, apparently wounded and immobilized, with no one near him.

In another incident which occurred on October 4 and was reported by B’Tselem, an Israeli police officer shot and killed Fadi ‘Alun, 19. According to the police report, ‘Alun stabbed an Israeli youth, causing him a moderate injury, before he was shot. Video footage of the shooting and some of what preceded it, filmed from two different angles, was shared online.

The footage indicates that ‘Alun was holding a knife when he was shot, but no one was near him. A police officer is seen firing seven bullets at ‘Alun, although the latter fell to the ground after the first shot.

In the two cases described above, B’Tselem noted that, “there is cause for grave concern that the security forces shot the suspects not to stop them in their tracks, but to kill them. Given politicians’ support of such conduct and the public mood of condoning the killing of Palestinian suspects, such incidents are bound to recur.”

“Security forces have the authority to use the minimal amount of force necessary to achieve that end, according to the circumstances, but law enforcement officers cannot act as both judges and executioners.”

M.N./T.R.

http://english.wafa.ps/index.php?action=detail&id=29600

jmjcare wrote on Oct 18^th, 2015 at 10:54pm:


These incidents could not occur if people stopped trying to stab people. Notice its people who are trying to stab other people that are getting shot. I would concentrate on telling people not to try and stab others instead of telling people who are shooting people trying to stab others to stop.

That just seems common sense to me.

jmjcare wrote on Oct 18^th, 2015 at 11:12pm:


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Now I mentioned earlier that we were given a land but under certain conditions. The conditions were basically that we had to maintain the highest of moral, ethical and religious standards. The Jewish People did have the land for approximately the first one thousand five hundred years of their existence. However, regretfully, the conditions were not fulfilled to the required degree and the Jews were exiled from their land. For the last two thousand years or so the Jewish people have been in a state of exile decreed by the A-lmighty because they did not maintain the standards expected of them. This state of exile is the situation that exists right up to the present day. It is a basic part of our belief to accept willingly the Heavenly decree of exile and not to try and fight against it or to end it by our own hands. To do so would constitute a rebellion against the wishes of the A-lmighty.

In practical terms, although we have maintained our Jewish identity by virtue of our attachment to our religion, never the less exile for us means firstly that Jews must be loyal subjects of the countries in which they live and not attempt to rule over the established indigenous populations of those countries.

Secondly, that we may not attempt to set up a State of our own in Palestine.
This would apply even if the land would be unoccupied and it certainly applies when, as is the case, there is an existing indigenous population. This prohibition is a basic part of our teaching and we are forsworn not to contravene it and we are warned of the dire consequences of doing so.

It follows, therefore, that Jews have no right to rule today in Palestine.

Now let us consider the Zionist movement. This was founded approximately 100 years ago mostly by secular people who were discarding their religion but still retained what they considered as the stigma of being Jews in exile. They considered that our state of exile was due to our own subservient attitude - 'the Golus (exile) mentality' - and not by Divine Decree. They wanted to throw off the constraints of exile and to try and establish a new form of Jewish identity. Not religion based but land based. It was based on a typical, emotion driven, secular nationalistic aim, similar to that of most other nations. Their policy had as its centre pin the aim of setting up a Jewish State in Palestine. But they were forging a new kind of Jew. In fact not a Jew at all- a Zionist.

This Zionist movement was a complete abandonment of our religious teachings and faith - in general - and in particular an abandonment of our approach to our state of exile and our attitude to the peoples among whom we live.

The practical outcome of Zionism in the form of the State known as 'Israel' is completely alien to Judaism and the Jewish Faith. The very name "Israel" which originally meant what are known as the Children of Israel i.e. the Jewish People was usurped by the Zionists. For this reason many orthodox Jews avoid referring to the Zionist State by the name 'Israel'.

The ideology of Zionism is not to rely on divine providence but to take the law into ones own hands and to try to force the outcome in the form of a State. This is completely contrary to the approach to the matter of exile which our Toira requires us to adopt, as handed down to us by our great religious teachers.

I have spoken till now from the religious belief point of view. But let us consider the humanitarian point of view (and to do so is also a religious requirement as I mentioned earlier).The Zionist ideology was and is to force the aim of a State irrespective of the cost in life and property to anyone who stands in the way. The Palestinians stood in the way. We have a fact that in order to achieve an ill conceived nationalistic ambition, a shocking contravention of natural justice was committed by the Zionists in setting up an illegitimate regime in Palestine completely against the wishes of the established population, the Palestinians, which inevitably had to be based on loss of life, killing and stealing.

Most Orthodox Jews accept the Neturei Karta view to the extent that they do not agree in principle to the existence of the Zionist State and would not 'shed a tear' if it came to an end. There are however a range of opinions as to how to deal with the fact that for the time being the Zionist State exists. These opinions range from positive cooperation to pragmatic acceptance to total opposition in every way. The latter being the Neturei Karta approach.

There was and is however, an additional Zionist phenomenon which confuses the picture. That is the Religious Zionists. These are people who claim to be faithful to the Jewish Religion but they have been influenced by the Zionist secular nationalistic philosophy and have added a new dimension to Judaism - Zionism, the aim of setting up now and expanding a Jewish state in Palestine. This they try to fulfil with great fervour. (I call it Judaism-plus) They claim that this is inherent in the Jewish religion. But the fact is as explained earlier that this is absolutely contrary to the teachings of our great religious teachers.