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Reply #15 - Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:56pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:
Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace






Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


You really are rather illiberal in your attitudes, Soren, you realise that?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


He's an illibertarian.


Ah.  That explains everything, Karnal.  I thank you for your cogent explanation.   Wink
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Reply #16 - Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:29pm:
Yadda wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is peace






Through an interpreter. After 20 years in Australia.

He really wants to fit in doesn't he, boys and girls? A Muslim leader, modelling behaviour for his flock.


You really are rather illiberal in your attitudes, Soren, you realise that?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



He's not a nobody, Brain, he's the bloody Grand Mufti OF AUSTRALIA.

He's been here 20 years. He is a Phd. He speaks fopr AUSTRALIAN Muslims - but he can't speak for them in their own language.

He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren.  Seems smart thinking on his behalf.  I know many Liberal politicians who would love to have that facility sometimes.  I suspect you'd like it as well?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm
 
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? Huh Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #18 - Oct 10th, 2015 at 6:40pm
 
double plus good wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? Huh Huh Huh Huh


Soren, will, of course, disabuse you of that notion, I don't doubt.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Reply #19 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 10:40am
 
double plus good wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? Huh Huh Huh Huh



It is a scandal. The position of Grand Mufti OF AUSTRALIA is not some obscure position. The guy is in the news every other week over some Muslim atrocity or plot.
Twenty years in a country in plenty to learn the language.

His inability to communicate in English is emblematic of the position of the community he heads and leads: even the Grand Mufti doesn't speak the language of the country where he nevertheless calls himself by grand titles.

The Governor of SA is a Vietnamese refugee. He speaks English. So does every other political or community leader in Australia who has been here for 20 years - except the Grand Mufti of the Muslims, who still needs an interpreter.

It is a scandal, an outrageous contempt for the country.



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Reply #20 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 10:43am
 
Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 10:40am:
double plus good wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? Huh Huh Huh Huh



It is a scandal. The position of Grand Mufti OF AUSTRALIA is not some obscure position. The guy is in the news every other week over some Muslim atrocity or plot.
Twenty years in a country in plenty to learn the language.

His inability to communicate in English is emblematic of the position of the community he heads and leads: even the Grand Mufti doesn't speak the language of the country where he nevertheless calls himself by grand titles.

The Governor of SA is a Vietnamese refugee. He speaks English. So does every other political or community leader in Australia who has been here for 20 years - except the Grand Mufti of the Muslims, who still needs an interpreter.

It is a scandal, an outrageous contempt for the country.



Yep, it's absolutely disgusting.
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Reply #21 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.



Were you a Canadian, you would have been among the po-faced harpies decrying a tweet by their Minister Of Multiculturalism praising an 11 year old Iraqi boy who has been in Canada for only a year but speaks ‘perfect, unaccented English’.
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Reply #22 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:17am
 
OH come on he hasn't got time to learn English this is just to go to the toilet, then he has to follow the sunnahs of drinking, eating, sleeping, putting on your clothes, taking off your clothes etc.etc.

sunnah of the toilet

1. Cover your head.

2. Enter with the left foot.

3. Any item (e.g. ring, locket etc.) that has the names of Allah (The

Exalted) or His beloved Messenger (may Allah bless him and grant him

peace) or any verse of the Qur'an, should be removed before entering

the toilet. An Amulet (Ta'weez) can be worn as long as it is covered.

4. It is forbidden (Haram) to face or have the back facing towards

the Qibla whilst relieving oneself.

5. It is best to lower oneself as much as possible before uncovering

the body.

6. Put slight pressure on the left leg it makes it relieving easier.

7. One should be very careful about the splashing of urine (as this

is a grave sin). One should sit to urinate.

8. One should not talk in the toilet without absolute necessity but

if a person outside is calling and does not know then cough thrice to

make them aware. This includes the use of a mobile phone be it for

texting as this is not the place to do such things.

9. When two people talk when the body is uncovered Allah (The

Exalted) is displeased.

10. Hold the container in the right hand whilst cleansing with the

left.

11. The right hand should not be used to cleanse oneself. Unless

there is a problem with the left hand then one can use the right hand.

12. Use the left hand middle three fingers for cleanings.

13. The sister should cleanse themselves with the lower palm of the

left hand and do not separate the legs to wide.

14. Wash in odd numbers i.e. 1, 3, 5 or 7 times.

15. When cleansing yourself, males should hold their penis from the

top with the left hand index finger and the thumb. Gently work your

way down (as if milking an animal) so if drops are left they will come

out.

16. After performing urination, if you feel that another drop of

urine will come, then it is wajib for you to perform 'Istibrao'

meaning after urination to perform some act that would force the urine

left inside, to come out .

17. First wash the front then the back.

18. After cleansing with water you can dry yourself with some tissue.

19. After you have relieved yourself, wash your hands up to the

wrists thrice.

20. Without necessity do not look at your private parts as there is a

chance of the memory becoming weak.

21. Do not sit on the toilet for a long time as there is a chance of

getting piles.

22. Do not play with your clothing or body, nor look here or there,

nor look above, and do not touch your body without necessity.

23. Do not spit or clean your nose in the toilet.

24. Soon as you have cleansed yourself cover yourself as soon as

possible.

25. When leaving the toilet one should step out with the right foot.

Supplication on Leaving
Once outside the toilet read this supplication :

'Ghuf-raa-naka Al-ham-du-Lil-la-hil-ladhi Adh-haba 'An-nil Adhaa

Wa-'Aa-faani'

'O Allah I seek Your pardon. All praises are due to Allah who has

taken away from me discomfort and granted me relief.'
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Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Reply #23 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 12:11pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.



Were you a Canadian, you would have been among the po-faced harpies decrying a tweet by their Minister Of Multiculturalism praising an 11 year old Iraqi boy who has been in Canada for only a year but speaks ‘perfect, unaccented English’. 


Naturalicht, old boy, if an 11 year old can do it in a year, one day, you can do it too.
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Reply #24 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 1:16pm
 
Does Wa-'Aa-faani' in Reply #22 - Today at 11:17am refer to the female muslim part, or is that what the male muslim wants?
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Reply #25 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 1:19pm
 
double plus good wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:59pm:
How can you have a major religious and political leader in Australia  and he can't speak English????? Huh Huh Huh Huh


Dunno.


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Reply #26 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:55pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.


So, the opposite of tolerance is, what again, exactly, Soren?    Roll Eyes

The opposite of love, is what again, exactly, Soren?   What about the opposite of suggesting that you're a bigot?   I'm interested to know, Soren, please demonstrate to us where you've made statements which support those opposites, will you?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Grand Mufti of Australia assures Aussies, ISLAM is
Reply #27 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 5:47pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:55pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.


So, the opposite of tolerance is, what again, exactly, Soren?    Roll Eyes

The opposite of love, is what again, exactly, Soren?   What about the opposite of suggesting that you're a bigot?   I'm interested to know, Soren, please demonstrate to us where you've made statements which support those opposites, will you?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



The opposite of bigot is the straight common sense that perceives the scandal that the emperor's - Grand Mufti of Australia, no less - has no clothes - he contemptuous of Australia, its language and customs and so can't speak English after 20 years in the country of which he imagines himself to be the GRAND Mufti.


The opposite of love is you who will pander to every deadbeat as long as it is a hostile deadbeat.



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Reply #28 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 6:45pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 5:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:55pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:01am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:58pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
He should be booted out. It's a complete disgrace.



His English could hardly be worse than his interpreters:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/09/11/15/stop-messing-with-australia

It's a bloody cover - he can always say he was mistranslated.


I don't have a problem with that, Soren. 



And that's why you are a perfect compass - whatever is your position on any issue, it's exact opposite is the right, sensible, thoughtful, wise position to take. This issue is as good an example as any.


So, the opposite of tolerance is, what again, exactly, Soren?    Roll Eyes

The opposite of love, is what again, exactly, Soren?   What about the opposite of suggesting that you're a bigot?   I'm interested to know, Soren, please demonstrate to us where you've made statements which support those opposites, will you?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



The opposite of bigot is the straight common sense that perceives the scandal that the emperor's - Grand Mufti of Australia, no less - has no clothes - he contemptuous of Australia, its language and customs and so can't speak English after 20 years in the country of which he imagines himself to be the GRAND Mufti.


Still missing the 80% of English he can speak, Soren, why?

Still missing that the opposite of Bigot is acceptance and tolerance of differences.  Something you so ably demonstrate that you cannot and will not do.

The Grand Mufti has not shown, as far as I am aware, any contempt for Australia or Australian society, Soren.  He has shown contempt for you though, and good on him.  It shows he's a real Australian, now doesn't it?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 11:39am
 
It's a pretty safe bet the muffti suffers from low I.Q. caused by inbreeding.

After 1400 years of islamic inbreeding he would be his own father, grandfather, uncle, brother, son and cousin all rolled into one.

His mother would be his own sister, grandmother, cousin, aunty, daughter and mother all rolled into one.

His father would be his brother, grandfather, son, cousin and father all rolled into one.

How could he learn English?
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