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Re: Tesla
Reply #15 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:21pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

Wolseley wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:37pm:

Like Clive Palmer!

Is their suspension strong enough? Wink

I'm quite happy with my Skoda thank you very much.

Never thought of that. It's a good point! Wow, he is one seriously crazy person. I think he believes dinosaurs still exist.

Yes they still exist under the names of Ford and Holden Cheesy

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Reply #16 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:28pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 5:19pm:

Thanks Bojack

and for those who are wondering ... if that's the sort of car Holden and Ford had spent the last 10 years working on, they'd be here for another 50 yrs. Instead off making the same cars they were making 40 yrs ago.

Because Holden could sell $150,000 family cars so easily. The Tesla is available now in Australia and has anyone even seen one 'in the flesh'?

They might be great cars but they are very very expensive and the ability to beat a V8 Super Car doesn't make any impact on the legions of mums and dads wanting a car to transport two kids and the weeks shopping from here to there.

But I never here you complain about paying 300K for a fossil fool car that still emits toxic gases from its exhaust pipe !!!

I have previously asked where Sir Nail lives, rented, brought, couch surfing or what, all with no response, when he was dissing investment advice I asked him how he invested his money, again with no response, would it be asking too much to ask him what he drives? Is there a reply in the future? Cool

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Reply #17 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 8:36pm

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 5:19pm:

Thanks Bojack

and for those who are wondering ... if that's the sort of car Holden and Ford had spent the last 10 years working on, they'd be here for another 50 yrs. Instead off making the same cars they were making 40 yrs ago.

Because Holden could sell $150,000 family cars so easily. The Tesla is available now in Australia and has anyone even seen one 'in the flesh'?

They might be great cars but they are very very expensive and the ability to beat a V8 Super Car doesn't make any impact on the legions of mums and dads wanting a car to transport two kids and the weeks shopping from here to there.

What's that got to do with the price of fish on mars

But I never here you complain about paying 300K for a fossil fool car that still emits toxic gases from its exhaust pipe !!!

I have previously asked where Sir Nail lives, rented, brought, couch surfing or what, all with no response, when he was dissing investment advice I asked him how he invested his money, again with no response, would it be asking too much to ask him what he drives? Is there a reply in the future? Cool

what's that got to do with the price of fish on mars ? Either the car is good or it isn't irrespective of my personal achievements.

you are probably a holden or soon to be ex-holden worker who has got a chip on his shoulder because your company still hasn't worked out to be competitive in the market place without billions in corporate welfare handouts.

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Reply #18 - Oct 12^th, 2015 at 9:11pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 8:36pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 5:19pm:

Thanks Bojack

and for those who are wondering ... if that's the sort of car Holden and Ford had spent the last 10 years working on, they'd be here for another 50 yrs. Instead off making the same cars they were making 40 yrs ago.

Because Holden could sell $150,000 family cars so easily. The Tesla is available now in Australia and has anyone even seen one 'in the flesh'?

They might be great cars but they are very very expensive and the ability to beat a V8 Super Car doesn't make any impact on the legions of mums and dads wanting a car to transport two kids and the weeks shopping from here to there.

What's that got to do with the price of fish on mars

But I never here you complain about paying 300K for a fossil fool car that still emits toxic gases from its exhaust pipe !!!

I have previously asked where Sir Nail lives, rented, brought, couch surfing or what, all with no response, when he was dissing investment advice I asked him how he invested his money, again with no response, would it be asking too much to ask him what he drives? Is there a reply in the future? Cool

what's that got to do with the price of fish on mars ? Either the car is good or it isn't irrespective of my personal achievements.

you are probably a holden or soon to be ex-holden worker who has got a chip on his shoulder because your company still hasn't worked out to be competitive in the market place without billions in corporate welfare handouts.

Because your reticence in answering leads me to suspect that you don't own or rent a house, you don't have any money to invest and you don't have a car. So it would be a bit stupid taking any advice you have. Unless I was wanting to end up homeless, broke and without a car which is where your wisdom and experience has led you.

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Reply #19 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 1:59am

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

Their new Model D is absolutely nuts

I just watched a video where one obliterated a V8 Supercar. It won EASY. A standard road car.

I'd put up the video but I watched it on a friends mobile and I haven't got time to go find the video link now. Maybe later.

It's not that surprising. When it comes to initial acceleration with high-powered cars, four wheel drive will beat two wheel drive, and the heavier car will beat the lighter. Once the cars get going though and are no longer traction limited, the opposite happens. 2wd beats 4, lighter beats heavier.

In a test like this the V8 supercar was always going to struggle. A Nissan GTR road car (as well as several others) would beat both of them from 0-100. Standing starts is where a race car is at its weakest (unless it a dragster, or perhaps a rally car).

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Reply #20 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:25am

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 9:11pm:

Because your reticence in answering leads me to suspect that you don't own or rent a house, you don't have any money to invest and you don't have a car. So it would be a bit stupid taking any advice you have. Unless I was wanting to end up homeless, broke and without a car which is where your wisdom and experience has led you.

Is this another longloser maria w.nk sock puppet ??

Good onya socko Cheesy

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Reply #21 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:30am

Quantum wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 1:59am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

Their new Model D is absolutely nuts

I just watched a video where one obliterated a V8 Supercar. It won EASY. A standard road car.

I'd put up the video but I watched it on a friends mobile and I haven't got time to go find the video link now. Maybe later.

It's not that surprising. When it comes to initial acceleration with high-powered cars, four wheel drive will beat two wheel drive, and the heavier car will beat the lighter. Once the cars get going though and are no longer traction limited, the opposite happens. 2wd beats 4, lighter beats heavier.

In a test like this the V8 supercar was always going to struggle. A Nissan GTR road car (as well as several others) would beat both of them from 0-100. Standing starts is where a race car is at its weakest (unless it a dragster, or perhaps a rally car).

Nevertheless, very impressive for a battery run car.

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Reply #22 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:31am

Quantum wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 1:59am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

Their new Model D is absolutely nuts

I just watched a video where one obliterated a V8 Supercar. It won EASY. A standard road car.

I'd put up the video but I watched it on a friends mobile and I haven't got time to go find the video link now. Maybe later.

It's not that surprising. When it comes to initial acceleration with high-powered cars, four wheel drive will beat two wheel drive, and the heavier car will beat the lighter. Once the cars get going though and are no longer traction limited, the opposite happens. 2wd beats 4, lighter beats heavier.

In a test like this the V8 supercar was always going to struggle. A Nissan GTR road car (as well as several others) would beat both of them from 0-100. Standing starts is where a race car is at its weakest (unless it a dragster, or perhaps a rally car).

Depends, some 4WD cars bog down right at the start so its hard for them to get off the line.

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Reply #23 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:46am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 10:31am:

Quantum wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 1:59am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

Their new Model D is absolutely nuts

I just watched a video where one obliterated a V8 Supercar. It won EASY. A standard road car.

I'd put up the video but I watched it on a friends mobile and I haven't got time to go find the video link now. Maybe later.

It's not that surprising. When it comes to initial acceleration with high-powered cars, four wheel drive will beat two wheel drive, and the heavier car will beat the lighter. Once the cars get going though and are no longer traction limited, the opposite happens. 2wd beats 4, lighter beats heavier.

In a test like this the V8 supercar was always going to struggle. A Nissan GTR road car (as well as several others) would beat both of them from 0-100. Standing starts is where a race car is at its weakest (unless it a dragster, or perhaps a rally car).

Depends, some 4WD cars bog down right at the start so its hard for them to get off the line.

The V8 supercar isn't the easiest car to do standing starts with, they are not setup for that.

This little 4cyl will smash the Tesla on the 1/4, with the D model at 180K this 4 banger does it a lot cheaper as well.

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Reply #26 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 12:12pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:55pm:

Wolseley wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:32pm:

We are talking about a car that is in a similar price range to the Audi Q7, Porsche Cayenne, VW Touareg, BMW X5 or X6, and the Volvo XC90.

Yes, the technology is interesting, but the Tesla will have to be a lot more affordable before it becomes anything more than a rich person's toy.

It's coming

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a12983/35000-tesla-model-iii-coming-in-2017...

$35K is the US pre-tax price. It will still be $100K when it gets here.

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Reply #27 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 12:13pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 5:19pm:

Thanks Bojack

and for those who are wondering ... if that's the sort of car Holden and Ford had spent the last 10 years working on, they'd be here for another 50 yrs. Instead off making the same cars they were making 40 yrs ago.

Because Holden could sell $150,000 family cars so easily. The Tesla is available now in Australia and has anyone even seen one 'in the flesh'?

They might be great cars but they are very very expensive and the ability to beat a V8 Super Car doesn't make any impact on the legions of mums and dads wanting a car to transport two kids and the weeks shopping from here to there.

But I never here you complain about paying 300K for a fossil fool car that still emits toxic gases from its exhaust pipe !!!

I'm not complaining about EITHER car, merely saying they are both hopelessly unaffordable for the average person and not value-for-money for anyone.

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Reply #28 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 12:15pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 13^th, 2015 at 12:12pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:55pm:

Wolseley wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:32pm:

We are talking about a car that is in a similar price range to the Audi Q7, Porsche Cayenne, VW Touareg, BMW X5 or X6, and the Volvo XC90.

Yes, the technology is interesting, but the Tesla will have to be a lot more affordable before it becomes anything more than a rich person's toy.

It's coming

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a12983/35000-tesla-model-iii-coming-in-2017...

$35K is the US pre-tax price. It will still be $100K when it gets here.

you still making up poo you have no idea about?

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Reply #29 - Oct 13^th, 2015 at 12:15pm

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 9:11pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 8:36pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 5:19pm:

Thanks Bojack

and for those who are wondering ... if that's the sort of car Holden and Ford had spent the last 10 years working on, they'd be here for another 50 yrs. Instead off making the same cars they were making 40 yrs ago.

Because Holden could sell $150,000 family cars so easily. The Tesla is available now in Australia and has anyone even seen one 'in the flesh'?

They might be great cars but they are very very expensive and the ability to beat a V8 Super Car doesn't make any impact on the legions of mums and dads wanting a car to transport two kids and the weeks shopping from here to there.

What's that got to do with the price of fish on mars

But I never here you complain about paying 300K for a fossil fool car that still emits toxic gases from its exhaust pipe !!!

I have previously asked where Sir Nail lives, rented, brought, couch surfing or what, all with no response, when he was dissing investment advice I asked him how he invested his money, again with no response, would it be asking too much to ask him what he drives? Is there a reply in the future? Cool

what's that got to do with the price of fish on mars ? Either the car is good or it isn't irrespective of my personal achievements.

you are probably a holden or soon to be ex-holden worker who has got a chip on his shoulder because your company still hasn't worked out to be competitive in the market place without billions in corporate welfare handouts.

Because your reticence in answering leads me to suspect that you don't own or rent a house, you don't have any money to invest and you don't have a car. So it would be a bit stupid taking any advice you have. Unless I was wanting to end up homeless, broke and without a car which is where your wisdom and experience has led you.

That was my take on him as well.

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