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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Gandalf...got another question for you. Reply #60 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:57pm not wanting to flog a dead horse but, just so we're clear... from the source you just cited... 2:256: from Sorah Al-Baqarah ( The Cow ) 5:16: from Sorah Al-Maidah ( The Table spread with Food ) Now go back to your original list moses and see where Baqarah and Maidah were revealed. And it aint Mecca.
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Reply #61 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 4:46pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:51pm:

That is not verses 2 and 5 as is written in the Quran - that is the chronological order you are citing.

Verse 2 is Baqarah and verse 5 is Maidah as per the traditional order - both Medinah verses. Thats where my quotes came from, check them if you like.

Sure, but as Moses will tell you, it doesn’t mean what it says.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Gandalf...got another question for you. Reply #62 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:00pm Its a pretty fundamental thing about the Quran to get wrong - and yet moses markets himself as such a great authority on Islamic theology Credibility anyone?
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Reply #63 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

Its a pretty fundamental thing about the Quran to get wrong - and yet moses markets himself as such a great authority on Islamic theology Tongue

Credibility anyone?

Speaking of credibility the Qu'ran never appeared magically until 60 years after mohammeds so called existence and there was no documented evidence anywhere of a muslim nor mohammed the prophet until 60 years after his so called existence. Not even by other nations, countries, clans or peoples.

Funny that Islam as a whole has absolutely no credibility at all.

I liked it when mohammed did a miracle flying on a magic carpet an no one witnessed it. Thats pretty miraculous.

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74243 Gender:	Re: Gandalf...got another question for you. Reply #64 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:31pm He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:19pm: Speaking of credibility the Qu'ran never appeared magically until 60 years after mohammeds so called existence same can be said of the bible ... the first gospel was written about 70 AD ....
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Reply #65 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:58pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Speaking of credibility the Qu'ran never appeared magically until 60 years after mohammeds so called existence

same can be said of the bible ... the first gospel was written about 70 AD .... Cheesy

The gospel is a collection of documents and writings that satisfy the canonical requirements. It doesn't make any wild assed claims of origin like the Qu'ran does.

The Qu'ran dufus claims differently, you might like to actually research your subject matter before responding irresponsibly and looking, well, shall we say, a bit silly.

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Reply #66 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:00pm

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Speaking of credibility the Qu'ran never appeared magically until 60 years after mohammeds so called existence

same can be said of the bible ... the first gospel was written about 70 AD .... Cheesy

The gospel is a collection of documents and writings that satisfy the canonical requirements. It doesn't make any wild assed claims of origin like the Qu'ran does.

The Qu'ran dufus claims differently, you might like to actually research your subject matter before responding irresponsibly and looking, well, shall we say, a bit silly.

It's Gospels' .... as in more than ONE .... and they're supposed to be the word of god.

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Reply #67 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:11pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Speaking of credibility the Qu'ran never appeared magically until 60 years after mohammeds so called existence

same can be said of the bible ... the first gospel was written about 70 AD .... Cheesy

no, you deceiver, you lie.

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Reply #68 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:14pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:28pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

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...........the bloodthirsty verses that abrogate the peaceful mecca verses. Yet here we have two separate Medina verses unambiguously commanding peace and tolerance - precisely during the time when Muhammad was in a position of power. ............

so there are blood thirsty verses that negate nice ones ?

Course, when moh was in power he'ld say "everyone just be nice now."

You should get your memes straight sprint - Soren was arguing the exact opposite.

so you agree with me ?

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Reply #69 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:16pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:00pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Speaking of credibility the Qu'ran never appeared magically until 60 years after mohammeds so called existence

same can be said of the bible ... the first gospel was written about 70 AD .... Cheesy

The gospel is a collection of documents and writings that satisfy the canonical requirements. It doesn't make any wild assed claims of origin like the Qu'ran does.

The Qu'ran dufus claims differently, you might like to actually research your subject matter before responding irresponsibly and looking, well, shall we say, a bit silly.

It's Gospels' .... as in more than ONE .... and they're supposed to be the word of god.

Inspired by God DUMB DUMB, by his Holy Spirit.

The Qu'ran how ever was supposed to be direct from God every word of Allah Snackbar and around when mohammed existed and even mohammed cannot be proven to actually exist. Grin

Please defend it for us John, please do. Cheesy

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Reply #70 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:17pm

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:00pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Speaking of credibility the Qu'ran never appeared magically until 60 years after mohammeds so called existence

same can be said of the bible ... the first gospel was written about 70 AD .... Cheesy

The gospel is a collection of documents and writings that satisfy the canonical requirements. It doesn't make any wild assed claims of origin like the Qu'ran does.

The Qu'ran dufus claims differently, you might like to actually research your subject matter before responding irresponsibly and looking, well, shall we say, a bit silly.

It's Gospels' .... as in more than ONE .... and they're supposed to be the word of god.

Inspired by God DUMB DUMB, by his Holy Spirit.

The Qu'ran how ever was supposed to be direct from God every word of Allah Snackbar and around when mohammed existed and even mohammed cannot be proven to actually exist. Grin

Please defend it for us John, please do. Cheesy

moh was also illiterate

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He Man Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1159 Gender:	Re: Gandalf...got another question for you. Reply #71 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:36pm Yup its hilarious . . . . I am amazed at how they take it so seriously, let alone expect the west too. My goodness.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40700 Gender:	Re: Gandalf...got another question for you. Reply #72 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:38pm He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:36pm: Yup its hilarious . . . . I am amazed at how they take it so seriously, let alone expect the west too. My goodness. It's a cult.
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Reply #73 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:43pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Speaking of credibility the Qu'ran never appeared magically until 60 years after mohammeds so called existence

same can be said of the bible ... the first gospel was written about 70 AD .... Cheesy

no, you deceiver, you lie.

let me see ... you probably believe the world is only 5000 yrs old, right?

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74243 Gender:	Re: Gandalf...got another question for you. Reply #74 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:44pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:38pm: He Man wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:36pm: Yup its hilarious . . . . I am amazed at how they take it so seriously, let alone expect the west too. My goodness. It's a cult. they all are!
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