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Reply #210 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:02pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:52pm:

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Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:45pm:

Excellent question Mr Light

it's a stupid question ... rates vary greatly from one local to another.

Of course they do. Valuer General's unimproved value being the predominate determining factor. However, anyone who has ten lots of prime real estate in Sydney NSW could readily answer the question, no? They'd also have their land tax bill siting in a nearby filing cabinet, so it ought be a breeze to provide the answers.

Surely you're not insinuating that Lisa is making up these stories about her "untold" wealth Cheesy

LOL

No way. I have not mentioned anyone specifically. (Is that 'snide,' Mr Smith?)

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Reply #211 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:03pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:00pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:52pm:

However, anyone who has ten lots of prime real estate in Sydney NSW could readily answer the question, no?

no ... like I said, the value changes greatly from one local to another. Or do you think a unit in penrith attracts the same rates as a penthouse on Darling Harbour?

I don't know how the Sydney local government structure is set up, but anyone with ten lots of prime real estate in 'Sydney' would have the answer at their fingertips.

bugger you are thick ... the answer will vary depending on the locations of each of the ten houses. Bondi attracts a different rate to penrith to Bringelly to Potts Point to sutherland to balmain.

Unless you think she has them all in one street?

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Re: Sydney property price collapse has started
Reply #212 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:04pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:01pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:42pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:32pm:

say you own 3 houses in NSW ..

( a concept of being a winner )

how much rates do you pay per year for all together approximately .. ?

namaste

In NSW?

Stupid question (too broad).

How about you ask me how much I pay in rates for 3 properties in Sydney?

ok lets say sydney ..

just a general or approximate amount is fine

namaste

Again....too broad.

How about you ask me the rate amts for 3 properties in certain parts of Sydney?

ok say 3 rates for properties in say northbridge ?

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Re: Sydney property price collapse has started
Reply #213 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:04pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:01pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:42pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:32pm:

say you own 3 houses in NSW ..

( a concept of being a winner )

how much rates do you pay per year for all together approximately .. ?

namaste

In NSW?

Stupid question (too broad).

How about you ask me how much I pay in rates for 3 properties in Sydney?

ok lets say sydney ..

just a general or approximate amount is fine

namaste

Again....too broad.

How about you ask me the rate amts for 3 properties in certain parts of Sydney?

Well?

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Re: Sydney property price collapse has started
Reply #214 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:04pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:45pm:

Excellent question Mr Light

it's a stupid question ... rates vary greatly from one local to another.

Of course they do. Valuer General's unimproved value being the predominate determining factor. However, anyone who has ten lots of prime real estate in Sydney NSW could readily answer the question, no? They'd also have their land tax bill siting in a nearby filing cabinet, so it ought be a breeze to provide the answers.

Surely you're not insinuating that Lisa is making up these stories about her "untold" wealth Cheesy

LOL

No way. I have not mentioned anyone specifically. (Is that 'snide,' Mr Smith?)

then who with ten lots were you expecting would assist light? Cheesy

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Re: Sydney property price collapse has started
Reply #215 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:06pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:04pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:01pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:42pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:32pm:

say you own 3 houses in NSW ..

( a concept of being a winner )

how much rates do you pay per year for all together approximately .. ?

namaste

In NSW?

Stupid question (too broad).

How about you ask me how much I pay in rates for 3 properties in Sydney?

ok lets say sydney ..

just a general or approximate amount is fine

namaste

Again....too broad.

How about you ask me the rate amts for 3 properties in certain parts of Sydney?

ok say 3 rates for properties in say northbridge ?

Again too broad.

Are we talking units, town houses, free standing homes?

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sydney property price collapse has started Reply #216 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:07pm You with me Light?
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Re: Sydney property price collapse has started
Reply #217 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:09pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:00pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:52pm:

However, anyone who has ten lots of prime real estate in Sydney NSW could readily answer the question, no?

no ... like I said, the value changes greatly from one local to another. Or do you think a unit in penrith attracts the same rates as a penthouse on Darling Harbour?

I don't know how the Sydney local government structure is set up, but anyone with ten lots of prime real estate in 'Sydney' would have the answer at their fingertips.

bugger you are thick ... the answer will vary depending on the locations of each of the ten houses. Bondi attracts a different rate to penrith to Bringelly to Potts Point to sutherland to balmain.

Unless you think she has them all in one street?

I don't know, and I also do not know who the 'she' is. I do know that the basic factor is unimproved value. Maybe there are differing % multipliers local Shires apply to that figure. No matter. Anyone with ten lots in Sydney ought have the answer readily available, as they would with land tax, which is standard across the State, again based on VG unimproved valuation.

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Sydney property price collapse has started Reply #218 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:09pm I think it's fairly obvious that some people have NEVER owned houses ... rates often vary from one side of the street to the other for faarrkkss sake
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Sydney property price collapse has started Reply #219 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:10pm many blessings to you lisa ... lets say $30 k ... what would you say is that too expensive or cheap ? or does this amount sound about right ? im interested namaste
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Re: Sydney property price collapse has started
Reply #220 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:11pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:45pm:

Excellent question Mr Light

it's a stupid question ... rates vary greatly from one local to another.

Of course they do. Valuer General's unimproved value being the predominate determining factor. However, anyone who has ten lots of prime real estate in Sydney NSW could readily answer the question, no? They'd also have their land tax bill siting in a nearby filing cabinet, so it ought be a breeze to provide the answers.

Surely you're not insinuating that Lisa is making up these stories about her "untold" wealth Cheesy

LOL

No way. I have not mentioned anyone specifically. (Is that 'snide,' Mr Smith?)

then who with ten lots were you expecting would assist light? Cheesy

I have no idea. Do you?

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Re: Sydney property price collapse has started
Reply #222 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:12pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:11pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:45pm:

Excellent question Mr Light

it's a stupid question ... rates vary greatly from one local to another.

Of course they do. Valuer General's unimproved value being the predominate determining factor. However, anyone who has ten lots of prime real estate in Sydney NSW could readily answer the question, no? They'd also have their land tax bill siting in a nearby filing cabinet, so it ought be a breeze to provide the answers.

Surely you're not insinuating that Lisa is making up these stories about her "untold" wealth Cheesy

LOL

No way. I have not mentioned anyone specifically. (Is that 'snide,' Mr Smith?)

then who with ten lots were you expecting would assist light? Cheesy

I have no idea. Do you?

I didn't make that comment Cheesy

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:45pm:

Excellent question Mr Light. I would expect anyone who owns ten 'lots' in Sydney would be able to assist you, having the numbers at their easy access. Perhaps you could also enquire about land tax. Anyone with that number of prime properties in Sydney would have the bill in their drawer.

The answer ought take about 60 seconds for such a person.

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Re: Sydney property price collapse has started
Reply #223 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:14pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:11pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:52pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:45pm:

Excellent question Mr Light

it's a stupid question ... rates vary greatly from one local to another.

Of course they do. Valuer General's unimproved value being the predominate determining factor. However, anyone who has ten lots of prime real estate in Sydney NSW could readily answer the question, no? They'd also have their land tax bill siting in a nearby filing cabinet, so it ought be a breeze to provide the answers.

Surely you're not insinuating that Lisa is making up these stories about her "untold" wealth Cheesy

LOL

No way. I have not mentioned anyone specifically. (Is that 'snide,' Mr Smith?)

then who with ten lots were you expecting would assist light? Cheesy

I have no idea. Do you?

I didn't make that comment Cheesy

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:45pm:

Excellent question Mr Light. I would expect anyone who owns ten 'lots' in Sydney would be able to assist you, having the numbers at their easy access. Perhaps you could also enquire about land tax. Anyone with that number of prime properties in Sydney would have the bill in their drawer.

The answer ought take about 60 seconds for such a person.

And your dazzling point is?

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Reply #224 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:15pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:12pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 9:09pm:

I think it's fairly obvious that some people have NEVER owned houses ... rates often vary from one side of the street to the other for faarrkkss sake

Hardly vary by much in that scenario. As I said...it is all based of the VG's unimproved valuation.

it can vary greatly, especially if one side of the street has views behind it that the other side hasn't. And it's not 'all on the valuer generals valuation' .... councils take into account their own costs when sending rates.

Councils calculate rates in one of three ways:

a combination of the land value of the property and a fixed amount per property
entirely on the land value of the property
entirely on the land value but subject to a minimum amount.

http://www.valuergeneral.nsw.gov.au/council_rates

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