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Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am
 
MALCOLM Turnbull invited Labor’s manager of opposition business to don a sandwich board declaring the Prime Minister has a “lot of money” as he mounted a withering counter-attack to the opposition’s continued questions of his multimillion-dollar investments in the Cayman Islands.

The invitation to Tony Burke, who the government has pointed out was among Labor MPs who also had funds tied up in the Cayman Islands, accompanied the self-made millionaire Prime Minister’s speech about his wealth to parliament, which brought a rowdy opposition to silence.

“If the honourable member (Mr Burke) wants to go round wearing a sandwich board saying ‘Malcolm Turnbull’s got a lot of money’ feel free. I think people know that I’ve got a lot of money,” Mr Turnbull said.

The Wentworth MP and former merchant banker said he and his wife Lucy got rich by working hard, but conceded there was luck involved.

“We’ve worked hard, we’ve paid our taxes, we’ve given back,” he said.

“Of course hard work is important but, you know, there are taxi drivers that work harder than I ever have and they don’t have much money.”

Mr Turnbull has millions of dollars invested in funds in the tax haven of the Cayman Islands. Some require a minimum investment of $1 million.

Mr Turnbull said all his investments are in overseas managed funds and he had no control over where those funds end up.

He said all profits made were declared as income earned in Australia and tax was paid at Australian tax rates.

The increased profitability, he said, meant he paid more tax in Australia than he generally would.

The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...
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Reply #1 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:46am
 
The fact that Turnbull has been criticised for having money hidden in tax havens has nothing per say to do with his wealth.

This is the Turnbull method of extracting himself from a very different and awkward situation.
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Reply #2 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.
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Reply #3 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.
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Reply #4 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?
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Reply #5 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 6:33am
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


He pays tax in Australia on his earnings. What part of that do you not get? Huh
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Reply #6 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 7:26am
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


Since there has been no tax avoidance at all isn't your statement rather foolish?
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Re: ALP attacks on Turnbull are rich & hypocritical
Reply #7 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 7:27am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 6:33am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


He pays tax in Australia on his earnings. What part of that do you not get? Huh


He is struggling against his natural hypocrisy and so now he reverts to lying.  It is a classic DNA move and an epic failure.
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Re: ALP attacks on Turnbull are rich & hypocritical
Reply #8 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:33am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 6:33am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


He pays tax in Australia on his earnings. What part of that do you not get? Huh


Then why would he need money hidden in a tax shelter ? Believe him if you like.

Or if so why would he be earning money in the Caymans and paying Australian tax on it when it is not subject to Australian taxation ?
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Re: ALP attacks on Turnbull are rich & hypocritical
Reply #9 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:37am
 
mariacostel wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 7:27am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 6:33am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


He pays tax in Australia on his earnings. What part of that do you not get? Huh


He is struggling against his natural hypocrisy and so now he reverts to lying.  It is a classic DNA move and an epic failure.



Yes Maria but you just have to accept that AP is like that, it's not his fault really.
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Reply #10 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:40am
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:33am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 6:33am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


He pays tax in Australia on his earnings. What part of that do you not get? Huh


Then why would he need money hidden in a tax shelter ? Believe him if you like.

Or if so why would he be earning money in the Caymans and paying Australian tax on it when it is not subject to Australian taxation ?


It's not hidden - the relevant parliamentary offices know all about it and it's disclosed in his register of interests.
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Reply #11 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:41am
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:37am:
mariacostel wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 7:27am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 6:33am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


He pays tax in Australia on his earnings. What part of that do you not get? Huh


He is struggling against his natural hypocrisy and so now he reverts to lying.  It is a classic DNA move and an epic failure.



Yes Maria but you just have to accept that AP is like that, it's not his fault really.


Maria was referring to you, dumbazz.
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Reply #12 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:43am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:41am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:37am:
mariacostel wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 7:27am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 6:33am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


He pays tax in Australia on his earnings. What part of that do you not get? Huh


He is struggling against his natural hypocrisy and so now he reverts to lying.  It is a classic DNA move and an epic failure.



Yes Maria but you just have to accept that AP is like that, it's not his fault really.


Maria was referring to you, dumbazz.


Probably the reason that I copied the comment in the record abuse topic or maybe I was defending your honour.
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Reply #13 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:54am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:40am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:33am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 6:33am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


He pays tax in Australia on his earnings. What part of that do you not get? Huh


Then why would he need money hidden in a tax shelter ? Believe him if you like.

Or if so why would he be earning money in the Caymans and paying Australian tax on it when it is not subject to Australian taxation ?


It's not hidden - the relevant parliamentary offices know all about it and it's disclosed in his register of interests.


So the claim is that he is in fact paying Australian tax on investments that are designed to not be subject to Australian taxation ?

If you believe that I should say something about your intelligence that could be posted on the record abuse topic.
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Reply #14 - Oct 16th, 2015 at 4:52pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 10:33am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 6:33am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:55am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:51am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:47am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 16th, 2015 at 5:28am:
The government has pointed out that Opposition Leader Bill Shorten, his deputy Tanya Plibersek and Mr Burke also have funds tied up in the Cayman Islands.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-labor-continues-attac...


If that is correct then they should all be criticised.


I don't know the circumstances of their investments, but Turnbull's are managed by people abroad who are paid by him but he has no say on where his funds are invested. This was a deliberate measure undertaken to ensure there could not possibly ever be any accusations of conflict of interest in his parliamentary role when he first entered politics. All of the relevant parliamentary authorities know of his investments and none have noted any issues. The only ones with an issue are Labor (in all their hypocrisy) and the rusted-on Laborites who support them come hell or high water.


Would you call that Tax avoidance by proxy ?


He pays tax in Australia on his earnings. What part of that do you not get? Huh


Then why would he need money hidden in a tax shelter ? Believe him if you like.

Or if so why would he be earning money in the Caymans and paying Australian tax on it when it is not subject to Australian taxation ?


There are many ways for you to be ignorant and you seem to want to try them all.  The income from investments is sent to Australia... Get that bit yet? It comes HERE and is taxed HERE.

By the way, the Future Fund and all super funds do the same thing.

A dope would have read the article and worked that out themselves.
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