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Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten
Reply #75 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 12:44pm

cods wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 9:03am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:53am:

No, Rudd the Rat undermining Gillard is why the Libs trounced Labor but now lack of policy and dreadful economic management will see Labor trounce the Libs next election.

hilarious!!! you have forgotten krudd mk11s reentry into the PMinistership then...what a shame it was a shocker...

only the dyedinthewool like yourself voted for him...

sorry monk your selective memory is letting you down something shocking..

hum what policies of shortarses are you referring too????? Grin

1. I DID mention Rudd’s undermining of Gillard.

2. You post on a political discussion board and have no idea of policies released by Shorten? Tut tut cods!

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Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten
Reply #76 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:19pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Bam wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

As the toxic policies that Mal can’t change keep going along the polls will return to show Labor leading, perhaps with a slightly smaller margin. But disappointment with Mal might see Labor’s vote increase over where they were when Abbott was PM.

I don't think the polls would get that bad for the Coalition. It's plausible to suggest that the Coalition's more toxic policies will drag down their vote, but it's rather a stretch to suggest that a Turnbull-led Coalition would perform worse than an Abbott-led Coalition.

The simple reason - Abbott was truly awful, the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. This is someone who expected the crossbenchers in the Senate to pass legislation without even talking to them. He could hardly string a sentence together. He was incompetent, had no grasp of the job and was prone to gaffes.

Abbott destroyed 3 labor PMs,

Labor infighting cost them office, not Abbott.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

took them to a record low vote

Not true.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

and one a landslide victory.

"Won".

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

He will be remembered well.

Who?

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Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten
Reply #79 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:51pm

Nausicaa wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 9:01am:

The sad thing about Shorten is he is actually very charismatic and a great speaker, yet Labor actively downplays this and makes him talk like a lifeless robot because they want him to not be seen as a "rabble rouser".

I doubt a party can do that to you. If you're charismatic and a great speaker, no one can take it away from you.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59355 Here Gender:	Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten Reply #80 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 2:10pm mariacostel wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 7:31am: And even on his worst day, he achieved more than you did in a lifetime. Yes, just the other day I was talking about the time that I doubled Australia's debt ?
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Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten
Reply #81 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 3:29pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:30am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:12am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 7:31am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 6:19am:

Its time wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 3:20pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Bam wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

As the toxic policies that Mal can’t change keep going along the polls will return to show Labor leading, perhaps with a slightly smaller margin. But disappointment with Mal might see Labor’s vote increase over where they were when Abbott was PM.

I don't think the polls would get that bad for the Coalition. It's plausible to suggest that the Coalition's more toxic policies will drag down their vote, but it's rather a stretch to suggest that a Turnbull-led Coalition would perform worse than an Abbott-led Coalition.

The simple reason - Abbott was truly awful, the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. This is someone who expected the crossbenchers in the Senate to pass legislation without even talking to them. He could hardly string a sentence together. He was incompetent, had no grasp of the job and was prone to gaffes.

Abbott destroyed 3 labor PMs, took them to a record low vote and one a landslide victory. He will be remembered well.

Who remembers Gillard? She barely rates a mention. More people talk of Hawke than Gillard.

You are a pretty bad loser.

He will be remembered as a fantastic leader , opposition leader that is . Then rhetoric and reality had the train smash of all train smashes by october 2013.

The man who took Australian politics into the sewer is more like it.

And even on his worst day, he achieved more than you did in a lifetime.

I'm still waiting for you to post your evidence that the libs policies were preferred over labors?

waiting ......................................... waiting ................................................................ waiting

The evidence was the election which was a FLOGGING.

The rest of your words are drivel.

labor lost because of their own internal infighting ... it had nothing to do with policies. Now unless you have any real evidence to the contrary go wipe that drool of your face.

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Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten
Reply #82 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 4:32pm

Bam wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Bam wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

As the toxic policies that Mal can’t change keep going along the polls will return to show Labor leading, perhaps with a slightly smaller margin. But disappointment with Mal might see Labor’s vote increase over where they were when Abbott was PM.

I don't think the polls would get that bad for the Coalition. It's plausible to suggest that the Coalition's more toxic policies will drag down their vote, but it's rather a stretch to suggest that a Turnbull-led Coalition would perform worse than an Abbott-led Coalition.

The simple reason - Abbott was truly awful, the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. This is someone who expected the crossbenchers in the Senate to pass legislation without even talking to them. He could hardly string a sentence together. He was incompetent, had no grasp of the job and was prone to gaffes.

Abbott destroyed 3 labor PMs,

Labor infighting cost them office, not Abbott. An opinion only and not a very good one.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

took them to a record low vote

Not true. REcord low primary vote.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

and one a landslide victory.

"Won".

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

He will be remembered well.

Who?

You really are a sore loser.

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Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten
Reply #83 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 9:56pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

Bam wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Bam wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

As the toxic policies that Mal can’t change keep going along the polls will return to show Labor leading, perhaps with a slightly smaller margin. But disappointment with Mal might see Labor’s vote increase over where they were when Abbott was PM.

I don't think the polls would get that bad for the Coalition. It's plausible to suggest that the Coalition's more toxic policies will drag down their vote, but it's rather a stretch to suggest that a Turnbull-led Coalition would perform worse than an Abbott-led Coalition.

The simple reason - Abbott was truly awful, the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. This is someone who expected the crossbenchers in the Senate to pass legislation without even talking to them. He could hardly string a sentence together. He was incompetent, had no grasp of the job and was prone to gaffes.

Abbott destroyed 3 labor PMs,

Labor infighting cost them office, not Abbott. An opinion only and not a very good one.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

took them to a record low vote

Not true. REcord low primary vote.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

and one a landslide victory.

"Won".

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

He will be remembered well.

Who?

You really are a sore loser.

Looks like you've found a new lie to tell.

Why do you lie so much?

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Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten
Reply #84 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:30am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 4:32pm:

Bam wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Bam wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

As the toxic policies that Mal can’t change keep going along the polls will return to show Labor leading, perhaps with a slightly smaller margin. But disappointment with Mal might see Labor’s vote increase over where they were when Abbott was PM.

I don't think the polls would get that bad for the Coalition. It's plausible to suggest that the Coalition's more toxic policies will drag down their vote, but it's rather a stretch to suggest that a Turnbull-led Coalition would perform worse than an Abbott-led Coalition.

The simple reason - Abbott was truly awful, the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. This is someone who expected the crossbenchers in the Senate to pass legislation without even talking to them. He could hardly string a sentence together. He was incompetent, had no grasp of the job and was prone to gaffes.

Abbott destroyed 3 labor PMs,

Labor infighting cost them office, not Abbott. An opinion only and not a very good one.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

took them to a record low vote

Not true. REcord low primary vote.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

and one a landslide victory.

"Won".

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

He will be remembered well.

Who?

You really are a sore loser.

Does that mean that you don't remember either ?

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Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten
Reply #85 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:43am

Bam wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Bam wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

As the toxic policies that Mal can’t change keep going along the polls will return to show Labor leading, perhaps with a slightly smaller margin. But disappointment with Mal might see Labor’s vote increase over where they were when Abbott was PM.

I don't think the polls would get that bad for the Coalition. It's plausible to suggest that the Coalition's more toxic policies will drag down their vote, but it's rather a stretch to suggest that a Turnbull-led Coalition would perform worse than an Abbott-led Coalition.

The simple reason - Abbott was truly awful, the worst Prime Minister this country has ever seen. This is someone who expected the crossbenchers in the Senate to pass legislation without even talking to them. He could hardly string a sentence together. He was incompetent, had no grasp of the job and was prone to gaffes.

Abbott destroyed 3 labor PMs,

Labor infighting cost them office, not Abbott.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

took them to a record low vote

Not true.

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

and one a landslide victory.

"Won".

mariacostel wrote on Oct 19^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

He will be remembered well.

Who?

It is true - Labor suffered it's worst ever defeat at an election at the hands of Abbott.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Labor shouldn't dump Shorten Reply #86 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:46am Abbott & Rudd the Rat.
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