Australian Politics Forum - Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite?

Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45755 Gender:	Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite? Reply #15 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 9:00am ... wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:54am: No plebiscite - it should be thrown straight in the bin. Should be but obviously won’t.
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Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite?
Reply #16 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 9:03am

There is nowhere to hide in the modern global economy.

Dont like it??

Sticking your head in the sand is unlikely to help.

TPP represents a great opportunity if every citizen decides to make themselves more valuable.

TPP represents a great disaster if they dont.

What the PM should tell the electorate is this.

No more whining and complaining bitches.
You live in australia.
Now go invent some stuff.
Go start some industries.
Go read some books.
Go make yourself stronger.
Go to the gym .
Go eat some nutritious food.
Quit your bellyaching.

If you cant outperform the chodes in asia,

You have

Messed Up Wink

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite? Reply #17 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 9:12am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:51am: We had an election on the Carbon Price. Yeah in 2010 where both parties said NO CARBON TAX. And then in 2013 we had one again on the topic and won by the NO CARBON TAX libs Got the point yet, bedwetter? 53/47
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25531 Gender:	Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite? Reply #18 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 9:45am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 9:00am: ... wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:54am: No plebiscite - it should be thrown straight in the bin. Should be but obviously won’t. Thank heavens for the good people in the Senate!
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Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite?
Reply #19 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:37am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:28am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:18am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

As usual, Bam forwards a logical position.
Since the TPP promotes a secret court, so businesses can sue Australia, to the highest of courts, then a plebiscite on the TPP is a must.

So it follows then that we should've been given a plebiscite on the carbon tax, right?

No.

Why? What's the difference?

The TPP erects a non democratic and secretive court, higher than the current courts.

Australians should have a choice if they would like to undermine their democratic rights.

Do you want less democratic power?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45755 Gender:	Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite? Reply #20 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:43am For once I agree with Lib lover Greens_win. We are giving away our sovereignty! We REALLY have to think hard and let people decide as to whether we do that or not. Next cab of the rank is even worse, TiSA. Trade in Services Agreement. Do some reading about it.
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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite? Reply #21 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:48am The TPP also binds the people to the power of corporations, without a corresponding transfer of power from corporations to the people.
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Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite?
Reply #22 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:54am

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:28am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:18am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

As usual, Bam forwards a logical position.
Since the TPP promotes a secret court, so businesses can sue Australia, to the highest of courts, then a plebiscite on the TPP is a must.

So it follows then that we should've been given a plebiscite on the carbon tax, right?

No.

Why? What's the difference?

The TPP erects a non democratic and secretive court, higher than the current courts.

Australians should have a choice if they would like to undermine their democratic rights.

Do you want less democratic power?

Australians should've had a choice on the carbon tax, but Browneye and Juliar took that away from them.

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Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite?
Reply #23 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:54am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:43am:

For once I agree with Lib lover Greens_win.

We are giving away our sovereignty! We REALLY have to think hard and let people decide as to whether we do that or not.

Next cab of the rank is even worse, TiSA. Trade in Services Agreement. Do some reading about it.

It's your choice to state your own opinions. Please do not make up dishonest posts pretending you know mine.

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Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite?
Reply #24 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:56am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:28am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:18am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

As usual, Bam forwards a logical position.
Since the TPP promotes a secret court, so businesses can sue Australia, to the highest of courts, then a plebiscite on the TPP is a must.

So it follows then that we should've been given a plebiscite on the carbon tax, right?

No.

Why? What's the difference?

The TPP erects a non democratic and secretive court, higher than the current courts.

Australians should have a choice if they would like to undermine their democratic rights.

Do you want less democratic power?

Australians should've had a choice on the carbon tax, but Browneye and Juliar took that away from them.

The topic is a plebiscite on the TPP.
How about a statement from you on topic.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45755 Gender:	Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite? Reply #25 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 12:02pm RWNJs deflecting furiously.
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Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite?
Reply #26 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 12:17pm

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:28am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:18am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

As usual, Bam forwards a logical position.
Since the TPP promotes a secret court, so businesses can sue Australia, to the highest of courts, then a plebiscite on the TPP is a must.

So it follows then that we should've been given a plebiscite on the carbon tax, right?

No.

Why? What's the difference?

The TPP erects a non democratic and secretive court, higher than the current courts.

Australians should have a choice if they would like to undermine their democratic rights.

Do you want less democratic power?

Australians should've had a choice on the carbon tax, but Browneye and Juliar took that away from them.

The topic is a plebiscite on the TPP.
How about a statement from you on topic.

Nothing wrong with the TPP as far as I can tell. Nothing but left-wing scare mongering.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45755 Gender:	Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite? Reply #27 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 12:22pm How would you know, ArmPit? It is all secret. You happy with ISDS?
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Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite?
Reply #28 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:41pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 12:17pm:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:28am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:18am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

As usual, Bam forwards a logical position.
Since the TPP promotes a secret court, so businesses can sue Australia, to the highest of courts, then a plebiscite on the TPP is a must.

So it follows then that we should've been given a plebiscite on the carbon tax, right?

No.

Why? What's the difference?

The TPP erects a non democratic and secretive court, higher than the current courts.

Australians should have a choice if they would like to undermine their democratic rights.

Do you want less democratic power?

Australians should've had a choice on the carbon tax, but Browneye and Juliar took that away from them.

The topic is a plebiscite on the TPP.
How about a statement from you on topic.

Nothing wrong with the TPP as far as I can tell. Nothing but left-wing scare mongering.

Tobacco giant sues Australia

More than $50 million of taxpayer money is expected to go up in smoke defending cigarette plain packaging in a secretive international tribunal in Singapore.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/29064155/tobacco-giant-sues-australia/

This is what you support. Australia being sued in a secretive nondemocratic court just because we are attempting to cut cig health costs along with underage smoking ... and smoking deaths.

So as a nurse, do you support a multinational company's right to kill Australians via this secretive court which the TPP makes the highest of all courts?

Do you support the TPP just out of ignorance?

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Re: Should the TPP be put to a plebiscite?
Reply #29 - Oct 20^th, 2015 at 1:44pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 12:17pm:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:28am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 8:18am:

____ wrote on Oct 20^th, 2015 at 7:56am:

As usual, Bam forwards a logical position.
Since the TPP promotes a secret court, so businesses can sue Australia, to the highest of courts, then a plebiscite on the TPP is a must.

So it follows then that we should've been given a plebiscite on the carbon tax, right?

No.

Why? What's the difference?

The TPP erects a non democratic and secretive court, higher than the current courts.

Australians should have a choice if they would like to undermine their democratic rights.

Do you want less democratic power?

Australians should've had a choice on the carbon tax, but Browneye and Juliar took that away from them.

The topic is a plebiscite on the TPP.
How about a statement from you on topic.

Nothing wrong with the TPP as far as I can tell. Nothing but left-wing scare mongering.

Do you read before signing ?

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