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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits Reply #30 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 12:02pm this is the only good policy Abbott can lay claim to in two years
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25531 Gender:	Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits Reply #31 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 12:10pm Johnsmith wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 12:02pm: this is the only good policy Abbott can lay claim to in two years End of carbon tax, end of mining tax, stopping the boats, axing climate change commission, plus many, many more.
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Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits
Reply #32 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 12:39pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 8:07am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:37am:

A PLAN to cut childcare benefits from parents who fail to immunise their children is a step closer to passing parliament.

Only those with a valid medical reason will be exempt from the $500 million budget-saving crackdown on anti-vaxxers under legislation which passed the lower house on Tuesday.

MPs from both sides of politics spoke in support of vaccinations as a safe and vital public health measure.

“No one wants to see a child die from whooping cough,” government MP Natasha Griggs said.

Labor frontbencher Tanya Plibersek reflected on the experience of Australia’s Ambassador in Washington and former opposition leader Kim Beazley who woke up paralysed as a five-year-old struck with polio.

“That’s how recently this disease ... stalked the Australian community,” she said.

“I can’t imagine the fear that little boy felt, but I can certainly imagine the fear of his mother.” Social Services Minister Christian Porter spoke of growing up with a cousin who contracted polio.

The bill now proceeds to the Senate for debate.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/no-jab-no-pay-law-to-cut-ch...

Good!

Exactly. And the unwashed, unvaccinated, gender-neutral, gay, atheist Greens wont be able to stop it

So you know nothing about medical science and know nothing about climate science but accept the medical science on vaccinations and deny the experts on climate science. And the thing is even the medical experts will tell you that a very small percentage of people will suffer a life threatening reaction and even maiming and death to some vaccinations but you judge that that is a risk your prepared to take on their behalf but don't anybody dare try to reduce your carbon emissions by causing you the negligible coast of a carbon tax. What a hypocrite you are!!!!

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Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits
Reply #33 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:05pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:07am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:01am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:41am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:40am:

Nanny state rubbish.

for every child saved from diphtheria by the few extra vaccinations (remember 90 % herd immunity syops nearly all these diseases in their tracks), we will fund a gazzillion public service chodes to co ordinate the data.

ratbag socialist policy.

if you want to save kids and raise revenue, tax the parents of fat kids raised on junk food.

$100 per Kg per annum over weight tax....save the health budget a fortune

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

I am serious .
The cost of administration will be exorbitant.
Measles, mumps, german measles are pretty well eliminated once you get to 90 % herd immunity, there is no need to push for every last kid.
The vaccines are damm expensive.
Health bureaucrats love vaccination as it gives them something to count and have statistics on and look pro active.

But , in real terms, even before we had these national campaigns, deaths from rubella, chickenpox etc were very very rare.

So we spend a billion on this to save a handful of lives.

A billion spent on running exercise programs for overweight kids would save , probably 100,000 lives.
there is a new diabetic diagnosed every 7 minutes in australia.
The number one cause of blindness, amputation, kidney failure.

And all preventable if politicians would take on the junk food industry.

If they want to have a nanny state, start there......
punish people who dont have the will power to stop eating fat and sugar.

Rule one for success.

Dont spend significant time on insignificant things.

This is one area where cost is irrelevant. It'll save lives and save health costs later on down the track by preventing diseases from causing problems later in life. You're wrong to think that once you get the vast majority of kids immunised against measles that the rest don't need to be vaccinated. So very wrong.

we currently have 90 % vaccination levels , we will prevent measles "epidemics"at this level. pushing it to 95 or 100 will save no one. the disease requires a percentage of about 20 to 25% susceptible to spread thru the community .

go to a casualty department and ask them how they are coping with the diseases of measles and rubella and mumps and chickenpox in the last 10 years with the current vaccination levels, they will inform you it is not a problem, then as you leave casualty, be careful not to trip over the diabetics lined up with their black feet, their white canes, attached to drips,

we have serious health problems in australia and they all relate to the crap people put in their mouths
fat, sugar, smokes, grog, pot and ice.

attack things in a logical order

Aqua, how long do you think the 90% herd immunity would last if parents are allowed to not vaccinate because of things like the bogus vaccine=autism tripe that's around???

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Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits
Reply #34 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:16pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:07am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:01am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:41am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:40am:

Nanny state rubbish.

for every child saved from diphtheria by the few extra vaccinations (remember 90 % herd immunity syops nearly all these diseases in their tracks), we will fund a gazzillion public service chodes to co ordinate the data.

ratbag socialist policy.

if you want to save kids and raise revenue, tax the parents of fat kids raised on junk food.

$100 per Kg per annum over weight tax....save the health budget a fortune

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

I am serious .
The cost of administration will be exorbitant.
Measles, mumps, german measles are pretty well eliminated once you get to 90 % herd immunity, there is no need to push for every last kid.
The vaccines are damm expensive.
Health bureaucrats love vaccination as it gives them something to count and have statistics on and look pro active.

But , in real terms, even before we had these national campaigns, deaths from rubella, chickenpox etc were very very rare.

So we spend a billion on this to save a handful of lives.

A billion spent on running exercise programs for overweight kids would save , probably 100,000 lives.
there is a new diabetic diagnosed every 7 minutes in australia.
The number one cause of blindness, amputation, kidney failure.

And all preventable if politicians would take on the junk food industry.

If they want to have a nanny state, start there......
punish people who dont have the will power to stop eating fat and sugar.

Rule one for success.

Dont spend significant time on insignificant things.

This is one area where cost is irrelevant. It'll save lives and save health costs later on down the track by preventing diseases from causing problems later in life. You're wrong to think that once you get the vast majority of kids immunised against measles that the rest don't need to be vaccinated. So very wrong.

we currently have 90 % vaccination levels , we will prevent measles "epidemics"at this level. pushing it to 95 or 100 will save no one. the disease requires a percentage of about 20 to 25% susceptible to spread thru the community .

go to a casualty department and ask them how they are coping with the diseases of measles and rubella and mumps and chickenpox in the last 10 years with the current vaccination levels, they will inform you it is not a problem, then as you leave casualty, be careful not to trip over the diabetics lined up with their black feet, their white canes, attached to drips,

we have serious health problems in australia and they all relate to the crap people put in their mouths
fat, sugar, smokes, grog, pot and ice.

attack things in a logical order

Aqua, how long do you think the 90% herd immunity would last if parents are allowed to not vaccinate because of things like the bogus vaccine=autism tripe that's around???

parents have always been allowed to not vaccinate, and the percentage is well over 90.

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Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits
Reply #35 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:26pm

... wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:07am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:01am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:41am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:40am:

Nanny state rubbish.

for every child saved from diphtheria by the few extra vaccinations (remember 90 % herd immunity syops nearly all these diseases in their tracks), we will fund a gazzillion public service chodes to co ordinate the data.

ratbag socialist policy.

if you want to save kids and raise revenue, tax the parents of fat kids raised on junk food.

$100 per Kg per annum over weight tax....save the health budget a fortune

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

I am serious .
The cost of administration will be exorbitant.
Measles, mumps, german measles are pretty well eliminated once you get to 90 % herd immunity, there is no need to push for every last kid.
The vaccines are damm expensive.
Health bureaucrats love vaccination as it gives them something to count and have statistics on and look pro active.

But , in real terms, even before we had these national campaigns, deaths from rubella, chickenpox etc were very very rare.

So we spend a billion on this to save a handful of lives.

A billion spent on running exercise programs for overweight kids would save , probably 100,000 lives.
there is a new diabetic diagnosed every 7 minutes in australia.
The number one cause of blindness, amputation, kidney failure.

And all preventable if politicians would take on the junk food industry.

If they want to have a nanny state, start there......
punish people who dont have the will power to stop eating fat and sugar.

Rule one for success.

Dont spend significant time on insignificant things.

This is one area where cost is irrelevant. It'll save lives and save health costs later on down the track by preventing diseases from causing problems later in life. You're wrong to think that once you get the vast majority of kids immunised against measles that the rest don't need to be vaccinated. So very wrong.

we currently have 90 % vaccination levels , we will prevent measles "epidemics"at this level. pushing it to 95 or 100 will save no one. the disease requires a percentage of about 20 to 25% susceptible to spread thru the community .

go to a casualty department and ask them how they are coping with the diseases of measles and rubella and mumps and chickenpox in the last 10 years with the current vaccination levels, they will inform you it is not a problem, then as you leave casualty, be careful not to trip over the diabetics lined up with their black feet, their white canes, attached to drips,

we have serious health problems in australia and they all relate to the crap people put in their mouths
fat, sugar, smokes, grog, pot and ice.

attack things in a logical order

Aqua, how long do you think the 90% herd immunity would last if parents are allowed to not vaccinate because of things like the bogus vaccine=autism tripe that's around???

parents have always been allowed to not vaccinate, and the percentage is well over 90.

And very very few didn't, mostly on religious grounds. These days the numbers of anti-vaxers (who value the opinion of internet herbalists over the safety of their children) is growing at an alarming rate.

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits
Reply #36 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:33pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:26pm:

... wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:07am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:01am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:41am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:40am:

Nanny state rubbish.

for every child saved from diphtheria by the few extra vaccinations (remember 90 % herd immunity syops nearly all these diseases in their tracks), we will fund a gazzillion public service chodes to co ordinate the data.

ratbag socialist policy.

if you want to save kids and raise revenue, tax the parents of fat kids raised on junk food.

$100 per Kg per annum over weight tax....save the health budget a fortune

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

I am serious .
The cost of administration will be exorbitant.
Measles, mumps, german measles are pretty well eliminated once you get to 90 % herd immunity, there is no need to push for every last kid.
The vaccines are damm expensive.
Health bureaucrats love vaccination as it gives them something to count and have statistics on and look pro active.

But , in real terms, even before we had these national campaigns, deaths from rubella, chickenpox etc were very very rare.

So we spend a billion on this to save a handful of lives.

A billion spent on running exercise programs for overweight kids would save , probably 100,000 lives.
there is a new diabetic diagnosed every 7 minutes in australia.
The number one cause of blindness, amputation, kidney failure.

And all preventable if politicians would take on the junk food industry.

If they want to have a nanny state, start there......
punish people who dont have the will power to stop eating fat and sugar.

Rule one for success.

Dont spend significant time on insignificant things.

This is one area where cost is irrelevant. It'll save lives and save health costs later on down the track by preventing diseases from causing problems later in life. You're wrong to think that once you get the vast majority of kids immunised against measles that the rest don't need to be vaccinated. So very wrong.

we currently have 90 % vaccination levels , we will prevent measles "epidemics"at this level. pushing it to 95 or 100 will save no one. the disease requires a percentage of about 20 to 25% susceptible to spread thru the community .

go to a casualty department and ask them how they are coping with the diseases of measles and rubella and mumps and chickenpox in the last 10 years with the current vaccination levels, they will inform you it is not a problem, then as you leave casualty, be careful not to trip over the diabetics lined up with their black feet, their white canes, attached to drips,

we have serious health problems in australia and they all relate to the crap people put in their mouths
fat, sugar, smokes, grog, pot and ice.

attack things in a logical order

Aqua, how long do you think the 90% herd immunity would last if parents are allowed to not vaccinate because of things like the bogus vaccine=autism tripe that's around???

parents have always been allowed to not vaccinate, and the percentage is well over 90.

And very very few didn't, mostly on religious grounds. These days the numbers of anti-vaxers (who value the opinion of internet herbalists over the safety of their children) is growing at an alarming rate.

That is not true at all.

http://www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/acir-...

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Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits
Reply #37 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 2:32pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:07am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:01am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:41am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:40am:

Nanny state rubbish.

for every child saved from diphtheria by the few extra vaccinations (remember 90 % herd immunity syops nearly all these diseases in their tracks), we will fund a gazzillion public service chodes to co ordinate the data.

ratbag socialist policy.

if you want to save kids and raise revenue, tax the parents of fat kids raised on junk food.

$100 per Kg per annum over weight tax....save the health budget a fortune

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

I am serious .
The cost of administration will be exorbitant.
Measles, mumps, german measles are pretty well eliminated once you get to 90 % herd immunity, there is no need to push for every last kid.
The vaccines are damm expensive.
Health bureaucrats love vaccination as it gives them something to count and have statistics on and look pro active.

But , in real terms, even before we had these national campaigns, deaths from rubella, chickenpox etc were very very rare.

So we spend a billion on this to save a handful of lives.

A billion spent on running exercise programs for overweight kids would save , probably 100,000 lives.
there is a new diabetic diagnosed every 7 minutes in australia.
The number one cause of blindness, amputation, kidney failure.

And all preventable if politicians would take on the junk food industry.

If they want to have a nanny state, start there......
punish people who dont have the will power to stop eating fat and sugar.

Rule one for success.

Dont spend significant time on insignificant things.

This is one area where cost is irrelevant. It'll save lives and save health costs later on down the track by preventing diseases from causing problems later in life. You're wrong to think that once you get the vast majority of kids immunised against measles that the rest don't need to be vaccinated. So very wrong.

we currently have 90 % vaccination levels , we will prevent measles "epidemics"at this level. pushing it to 95 or 100 will save no one. the disease requires a percentage of about 20 to 25% susceptible to spread thru the community .

go to a casualty department and ask them how they are coping with the diseases of measles and rubella and mumps and chickenpox in the last 10 years with the current vaccination levels, they will inform you it is not a problem, then as you leave casualty, be careful not to trip over the diabetics lined up with their black feet, their white canes, attached to drips,

we have serious health problems in australia and they all relate to the crap people put in their mouths
fat, sugar, smokes, grog, pot and ice.

attack things in a logical order

Aqua, how long do you think the 90% herd immunity would last if parents are allowed to not vaccinate because of things like the bogus vaccine=autism tripe that's around???

So just like Longy, the other climate change denier, you just so happen to accept what the medical experts say abut the risks of vaccinations. What a joke.

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Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits
Reply #38 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 3:06pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 2:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:07am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:01am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:41am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:40am:

Nanny state rubbish.

for every child saved from diphtheria by the few extra vaccinations (remember 90 % herd immunity syops nearly all these diseases in their tracks), we will fund a gazzillion public service chodes to co ordinate the data.

ratbag socialist policy.

if you want to save kids and raise revenue, tax the parents of fat kids raised on junk food.

$100 per Kg per annum over weight tax....save the health budget a fortune

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

I am serious .
The cost of administration will be exorbitant.
Measles, mumps, german measles are pretty well eliminated once you get to 90 % herd immunity, there is no need to push for every last kid.
The vaccines are damm expensive.
Health bureaucrats love vaccination as it gives them something to count and have statistics on and look pro active.

But , in real terms, even before we had these national campaigns, deaths from rubella, chickenpox etc were very very rare.

So we spend a billion on this to save a handful of lives.

A billion spent on running exercise programs for overweight kids would save , probably 100,000 lives.
there is a new diabetic diagnosed every 7 minutes in australia.
The number one cause of blindness, amputation, kidney failure.

And all preventable if politicians would take on the junk food industry.

If they want to have a nanny state, start there......
punish people who dont have the will power to stop eating fat and sugar.

Rule one for success.

Dont spend significant time on insignificant things.

This is one area where cost is irrelevant. It'll save lives and save health costs later on down the track by preventing diseases from causing problems later in life. You're wrong to think that once you get the vast majority of kids immunised against measles that the rest don't need to be vaccinated. So very wrong.

we currently have 90 % vaccination levels , we will prevent measles "epidemics"at this level. pushing it to 95 or 100 will save no one. the disease requires a percentage of about 20 to 25% susceptible to spread thru the community .

go to a casualty department and ask them how they are coping with the diseases of measles and rubella and mumps and chickenpox in the last 10 years with the current vaccination levels, they will inform you it is not a problem, then as you leave casualty, be careful not to trip over the diabetics lined up with their black feet, their white canes, attached to drips,

we have serious health problems in australia and they all relate to the crap people put in their mouths
fat, sugar, smokes, grog, pot and ice.

attack things in a logical order

Aqua, how long do you think the 90% herd immunity would last if parents are allowed to not vaccinate because of things like the bogus vaccine=autism tripe that's around???

So just like Longy, the other climate change denier, you just so happen to accept what the medical experts say abut the risks of vaccinations. What a joke.

Its simple proof. They claimed to eradicated smallpox... and did. They claim to keep you safe from polio and a host of other diseases and do exactly that. Their predictions match their outcomes.

Climate science predicts a host of things with a near 100% failure rate. THAT is why there is so much controversy: because their claims aren't matched by observable outcomes.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82960 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits Reply #39 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 3:32pm Expert - a slow has-been drip under pressure.
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Re: No jab no pay law to cut childcare benefits
Reply #41 - Oct 21^st, 2015 at 5:16pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 3:06pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 2:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 1:05pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:07am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 7:01am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:41am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 21^st, 2015 at 6:40am:

Nanny state rubbish.

for every child saved from diphtheria by the few extra vaccinations (remember 90 % herd immunity syops nearly all these diseases in their tracks), we will fund a gazzillion public service chodes to co ordinate the data.

ratbag socialist policy.

if you want to save kids and raise revenue, tax the parents of fat kids raised on junk food.

$100 per Kg per annum over weight tax....save the health budget a fortune

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

I am serious .
The cost of administration will be exorbitant.
Measles, mumps, german measles are pretty well eliminated once you get to 90 % herd immunity, there is no need to push for every last kid.
The vaccines are damm expensive.
Health bureaucrats love vaccination as it gives them something to count and have statistics on and look pro active.

But , in real terms, even before we had these national campaigns, deaths from rubella, chickenpox etc were very very rare.

So we spend a billion on this to save a handful of lives.

A billion spent on running exercise programs for overweight kids would save , probably 100,000 lives.
there is a new diabetic diagnosed every 7 minutes in australia.
The number one cause of blindness, amputation, kidney failure.

And all preventable if politicians would take on the junk food industry.

If they want to have a nanny state, start there......
punish people who dont have the will power to stop eating fat and sugar.

Rule one for success.

Dont spend significant time on insignificant things.

This is one area where cost is irrelevant. It'll save lives and save health costs later on down the track by preventing diseases from causing problems later in life. You're wrong to think that once you get the vast majority of kids immunised against measles that the rest don't need to be vaccinated. So very wrong.

we currently have 90 % vaccination levels , we will prevent measles "epidemics"at this level. pushing it to 95 or 100 will save no one. the disease requires a percentage of about 20 to 25% susceptible to spread thru the community .

go to a casualty department and ask them how they are coping with the diseases of measles and rubella and mumps and chickenpox in the last 10 years with the current vaccination levels, they will inform you it is not a problem, then as you leave casualty, be careful not to trip over the diabetics lined up with their black feet, their white canes, attached to drips,

we have serious health problems in australia and they all relate to the crap people put in their mouths
fat, sugar, smokes, grog, pot and ice.

attack things in a logical order

Aqua, how long do you think the 90% herd immunity would last if parents are allowed to not vaccinate because of things like the bogus vaccine=autism tripe that's around???

So just like Longy, the other climate change denier, you just so happen to accept what the medical experts say abut the risks of vaccinations. What a joke.

Its simple proof. They claimed to eradicated smallpox... and did. They claim to keep you safe from polio and a host of other diseases and do exactly that. Their predictions match their outcomes.

Climate science predicts a host of things with a near 100% failure rate. THAT is why there is so much controversy: because their claims aren't matched by observable outcomes.

here is an observable outcome

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/brain-damaged-uk-victims-swine-flu-vaccine-get-60-milli...

Brain-Damaged UK Victims of Swine Flu Vaccine to Get £60 Million Compensation

By Tom Porter
March 2, 2014 14:40 GMT

Patients who suffered brain damage as a result of taking a swine flu vaccine are to receive multi-million-pound payouts from the UK government.

The government is expected to receive a bill of approximately £60 million, with each of the 60 victims expected to receive about £1 million each.

Peter Todd, a lawyer who represented many of the claimants, told the Sunday Times: "There has never been a case like this before. The victims of this vaccine have an incurable and lifelong condition and will require extensive medication."

Following the swine flu outbreak of 2009, about 60 million people, most of them children, received the vaccine.

It was subsequently revealed that the vaccine, Pandemrix, can cause narcolepsy and cataplexy in about one in 16,000 people, and many more are expected to come forward with the symptoms.

Across Europe, more than 800 children are so far known to have been made ill by the vaccine.

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