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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #30 - Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:39pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 8:15pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 7:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 12:46pm:

go the mitsu ....

do you only want to cool one room?

Hey John...it needs to cool a large open plan lounge/dining/kitchen area.

We got 2. One for our bedroom, other does the rest of the house.That's a common scenario here.

I believe it is better to get a specialist company to come in and measure up for it.
Sure, do your own calculations.
Then get a pro in

We got one of our compressors situated about 4M further away than need be, behind the house.
This allows for normal access on the path beside the house.
It was dearer and a MUCH better location for living with.

We got a mitsi.
Am certain a daikyn would do the job just as well.
Amazingly quiet, very effective.

these days you can get multi systems, one compressor with as many head units as you need. Much cheaper than ducted air conditioning.

I see.

Looks like I'll need to conduct a few further enquiries before buying anything.

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #33 - Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:23pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:40pm:

I had a look at the multi head systems.
For a variety of reasons, not a good idea.

Oh...ok

Well, that's just made your decision making easier.
A multihead system is not significantly cheaper.
It is significantly more complex.
It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable.
If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity.

The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them.
They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days.
You'll be very happy with either.

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #34 - Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:33pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:40pm:

I had a look at the multi head systems.
For a variety of reasons, not a good idea.

Oh...ok

Well, that's just made your decision making easier.
A multihead system is not significantly cheaper.
It is significantly more complex.
It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable.
If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity.

The general concensus here is mitsubishi or daikin split systems. 1 or 2 of them.
They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days.
You'll be very happy with either.

Yep. I'm looking up a few prices atm.

Oh and check out the topic next to this one.....pathetically titled "Message to Freediver" Roll Eyes

Let me know if your sides start hurting from laughing too hard .....coz mine are doing that right now Tongue

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #35 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 6:47am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:48am:

I'll need to see a few. It's hard to know just by looking online.

Ok....time to pack the car, the family and head off to see what's out there.

Lucky me Cry

Why can't hubby and the teenagers get themselves into a car?

Do you have to do everything for them?

I don't know why you bothered dragging them around, they were no help.

What a drama for a simple air conditioner.

Can we expect Part II today?

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #36 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:17am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:40pm:

I had a look at the multi head systems.
For a variety of reasons, not a good idea.

Oh...ok

Well, that's just made your decision making easier.
A multihead system is not significantly cheaper.
It is significantly more complex.
It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable.
If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity.

The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them.
They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days.
You'll be very happy with either.

How so? I could get a multi head unit to do 3 bedrooms for $5k, ducted would cost me over 10k. with a multi, I can turn it on in the room I am using and leave the others off.

I don't think a multi will suit Lisa's purposes, but I think they're a good option for someone who already has air in the living areas and wants to put air into the bedrooms. It's certainly better and cheaper than a compressor for each room.

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #37 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:20am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 6:47am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:48am:

I'll need to see a few. It's hard to know just by looking online.

Ok....time to pack the car, the family and head off to see what's out there.

Lucky me Cry

Why can't hubby and the teenagers get themselves into a car?

Do you have to do everything for them?

I don't know why you bothered dragging them around, they were no help.

What a drama for a simple air conditioner.

Can we expect Part II today?

Hubby - work.

Kids - studying/working.

Toddlers need help getting into/out of cars.

Drama? Yep.

Why? There's nothing simple about split system air conditioners. Only a complete nong would suggest otherwise.

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #38 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:40am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:20am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 6:47am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:48am:

I'll need to see a few. It's hard to know just by looking online.

Ok....time to pack the car, the family and head off to see what's out there.

Lucky me Cry

Why can't hubby and the teenagers get themselves into a car?

Do you have to do everything for them?

I don't know why you bothered dragging them around, they were no help.

What a drama for a simple air conditioner.

Can we expect Part II today?

Hubby - work.

Kids - studying/working.

Toddlers need help getting into/out of cars.

Drama? Yep.

Why? There's nothing simple about split system air conditioners. Only a complete nong would suggest otherwise.

It's a home air conditioner not the large hadron collider.

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #39 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:45am

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:17am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:40pm:

I had a look at the multi head systems.
For a variety of reasons, not a good idea.

Oh...ok

Well, that's just made your decision making easier.
A multihead system is not significantly cheaper.
It is significantly more complex.
It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable.
If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity.

The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them.
They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days.
You'll be very happy with either.

How so? I could get a multi head unit to do 3 bedrooms for $5k, ducted would cost me over 10k. with a multi, I can turn it on in the room I am using and leave the others off.

I don't think a multi will suit Lisa's purposes, but I think they're a good option for someone who already has air in the living areas and wants to put air into the bedrooms. It's certainly better and cheaper than a compressor for each room.

Ok John, Sprint etc.....I really need to wrap this up today.

1. I'm buying a split system air conditioner system. It has to be split system. Can't be ducted.

2. It must service an open plan area consisting of a lounge room, dining room, kitchen oh and I just remembered.....these are exposed to a hallway AND vestibule area....and a current study/office (soon to become Mum's new bedroom). So in essence, all of Mum's downstairs areas.

2. The bedrooms are all upstairs. They don't require anything.

3. The system has to be quiet, easy to operate, and energy efficient. Mum needs to be able to confidently use the remote control on her own.

4. It must be a reliable brand/model. I'm not prepared to go through this shyte again...nor do I need ongoing breakdown hassles.

5. Price of system is irrelevant. I have that under control. I know how to negotiate. That's my forte lol.

6. Installation costs are also irrelevant. I have electricians and plumbers on tap here lol. Again...I can get all that done at a good price.

7. I think I might need 2 split systems. Can I really get away with just 1? I don't know that I can. It may leave pockets of warm zones here and there which is very unhealthy.

8. Thanks for your help guys. I really mean it. My husband is absolutely useless when it comes to anything practical. He's a man of the suit, pen and laptop. The same now applies to my 2 useless brothers.

Anyway....

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #40 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48am

issuevoter wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 12:55pm:

The condensation drain leads from a tray under the air handler in the room and passes out through the wall where it is clearly visible dripping while the machine runs. This outlet should have something like a mesh baffle to prevent undesirable creatures getting in and nesting when the machine is not in use.

Turn the power off at the breaker during the off season otherwise the powerboard will invite a short circuit from said creatures getting into the compressor unit.

Ummm. Okkkkay. Undecided

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Reply #41 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 9:28am

Good luck today Lisa.

You must be able to find one in the whole of the wider Sydney area, surely.

I really hope you don't have to go to Europe to get it, that could be costly and time consuming.

It's always a blessing to have people to help damsels in distress, I know.

Don't you hate it when all your air conditioners break down at the same time?

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #42 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 9:41am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 12:55pm:

The condensation drain leads from a tray under the air handler in the room and passes out through the wall where it is clearly visible dripping while the machine runs. This outlet should have something like a mesh baffle to prevent undesirable creatures getting in and nesting when the machine is not in use.

Turn the power off at the breaker during the off season otherwise the powerboard will invite a short circuit from said creatures getting into the compressor unit.

Ummm. Okkkkay. Undecided

Ah. Gotcha now. Ongoing maintenance issues.

Need to ask about that too.

Thanks.

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Re: Buying a new split system air conditioner
Reply #43 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 3:02pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:45am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 8:17am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 11:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 10:40pm:

I had a look at the multi head systems.
For a variety of reasons, not a good idea.

Oh...ok

Well, that's just made your decision making easier.
A multihead system is not significantly cheaper.
It is significantly more complex.
It is less efficient, less suited to what you want and less reliable.
If it has a problem, you have a REAL problem as it is a rarity.

The general concensus here is mitsubishi or diakyn split systems. 1 or 2 of them.
They take a long time to install. bank on 2 days.
You'll be very happy with either.

How so? I could get a multi head unit to do 3 bedrooms for $5k, ducted would cost me over 10k. with a multi, I can turn it on in the room I am using and leave the others off.

I don't think a multi will suit Lisa's purposes, but I think they're a good option for someone who already has air in the living areas and wants to put air into the bedrooms. It's certainly better and cheaper than a compressor for each room.

Ok John, Sprint etc.....I really need to wrap this up today.

1. I'm buying a split system air conditioner system. It has to be split system. Can't be ducted.

2. It must service an open plan area consisting of a lounge room, dining room, kitchen oh and I just remembered.....these are exposed to a hallway AND vestibule area....and a current study/office (soon to become Mum's new bedroom). So in essence, all of Mum's downstairs areas.

2. The bedrooms are all upstairs. They don't require anything.

3. The system has to be quiet, easy to operate, and energy efficient. Mum needs to be able to confidently use the remote control on her own.

4. It must be a reliable brand/model. I'm not prepared to go through this shyte again...nor do I need ongoing breakdown hassles.

5. Price of system is irrelevant. I have that under control. I know how to negotiate. That's my forte lol.

6. Installation costs are also irrelevant. I have electricians and plumbers on tap here lol. Again...I can get all that done at a good price.

7. I think I might need 2 split systems. Can I really get away with just 1? I don't know that I can. It may leave pockets of warm zones here and there which is very unhealthy.

8. Thanks for your help guys. I really mean it. My husband is absolutely useless when it comes to anything practical. He's a man of the suit, pen and laptop. The same now applies to my 2 useless brothers.

Anyway....

you need the total floor area you want cooled. One split system will be enough if you buy one big enough. Once you have the floor area your local air con retailer will be able to tell you which one you need.

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