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Reply #210 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:54pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

Scientific ideas have an empirical basis. Those ideas from the social sciences about some utopian future or the creation of 'victims' has nothing to do with empiricism or science.

Mistie, i'll try asking you again.

Are you saying that scientific thought and empirical thinking is not exhibited by anyone with a left leaning?

That no scientists vote left?

Moral issues, which is what the left's almost sole focus is....

But Mistie, all your posts are about moral issues. You refuse to discuss details. You post on generalities and abstractions about "progressives". You call yourself Culture Warrior.

Would you care to enlighten us on the scientific method?

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Reply #212 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:28pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

Doesn’t sound like you’ve read much on the philosophy of science, Mistie. Science is based on scientific ideas.

The philosophy of science gets caught up in too much abstract thinking. Have you ever been to a laboratory and watched science in action?

Aristotle, Descartes, Locke, Hume, Popper, Kuhn...

Science, as we know it today, is only a few hundred years old. None of those you mention would be qualified as scientists. The latter two spoke of science, as we now understand it today, but did not do science.

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No, Mistie, I’ve never been to a laboratory. What would I see?

You would see a very rigorous process. Experiments have to be performed, results have to be witnessed, then wrote about, then peer-reviewed. Compare that with some lefty screeching about some utopia or supposed victim.

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Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women'
Reply #213 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:31pm

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

Scientific ideas have an empirical basis. Those ideas from the social sciences about some utopian future or the creation of 'victims' has nothing to do with empiricism or science.

Mistie, i'll try asking you again.

Are you saying that scientific thought and empirical thinking is not exhibited by anyone with a left leaning?

That no scientists vote left?

Moral issues, which is what the left's almost sole focus is, have little to do with empiricism. Leftists in the hard sciences, however, would have to be empiricists.

Or they can apply empirical thinking as needs be.

Are you so sure the left's almost sole focus is on moral issues? That's a mighty big call Mistie, when you have already admitted that great scientists and innovators can be left leaning.

Leftardism focuses on telling others how to act: in a nutshell, that's morality. Empiricism is, basically, making observations via the senses. There is no judgment in the moral sense in empirical claims.

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Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women'
Reply #214 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:57pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

Scientific ideas have an empirical basis. Those ideas from the social sciences about some utopian future or the creation of 'victims' has nothing to do with empiricism or science.

Mistie, i'll try asking you again.

Are you saying that scientific thought and empirical thinking is not exhibited by anyone with a left leaning?

That no scientists vote left?

Moral issues, which is what the left's almost sole focus is, have little to do with empiricism. Leftists in the hard sciences, however, would have to be empiricists.

Or they can apply empirical thinking as needs be.

Are you so sure the left's almost sole focus is on moral issues? That's a mighty big call Mistie, when you have already admitted that great scientists and innovators can be left leaning.

Leftardism focuses on telling others how to act: in a nutshell, that's morality. Empiricism is, basically, making observations via the senses. There is no judgment in the moral sense in empirical claims.

So you are back to saying that left leaning people cannot be great scientists or innovators.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women'
Reply #215 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:59pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

Scientific ideas have an empirical basis. Those ideas from the social sciences about some utopian future or the creation of 'victims' has nothing to do with empiricism or science.

Mistie, i'll try asking you again.

Are you saying that scientific thought and empirical thinking is not exhibited by anyone with a left leaning?

That no scientists vote left?

Moral issues, which is what the left's almost sole focus is, have little to do with empiricism. Leftists in the hard sciences, however, would have to be empiricists.

Or they can apply empirical thinking as needs be.

Are you so sure the left's almost sole focus is on moral issues? That's a mighty big call Mistie, when you have already admitted that great scientists and innovators can be left leaning.

Leftardism focuses on telling others how to act: in a nutshell, that's morality. Empiricism is, basically, making observations via the senses. There is no judgment in the moral sense in empirical claims.

So true.

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women'
Reply #216 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:48am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

Doesn’t sound like you’ve read much on the philosophy of science, Mistie. Science is based on scientific ideas.

The philosophy of science gets caught up in too much abstract thinking. Have you ever been to a laboratory and watched science in action?

Aristotle, Descartes, Locke, Hume, Popper, Kuhn...

Science, as we know it today, is only a few hundred years old. None of those you mention would be qualified as scientists. The latter two spoke of science, as we now understand it today, but did not do science.

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No, Mistie, I’ve never been to a laboratory. What would I see?

You would see a very rigorous process. Experiments have to be performed, results have to be witnessed, then wrote about, then peer-reviewed. Compare that with some lefty screeching about some utopia or supposed victim.

You don’t peer review things in the lab, Mistie. You peer review articles with findings.

What do you study at the uni?

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Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women'
Reply #217 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:50am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:31pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:48am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

Scientific ideas have an empirical basis. Those ideas from the social sciences about some utopian future or the creation of 'victims' has nothing to do with empiricism or science.

Mistie, i'll try asking you again.

Are you saying that scientific thought and empirical thinking is not exhibited by anyone with a left leaning?

That no scientists vote left?

Moral issues, which is what the left's almost sole focus is, have little to do with empiricism. Leftists in the hard sciences, however, would have to be empiricists.

Or they can apply empirical thinking as needs be.

Are you so sure the left's almost sole focus is on moral issues? That's a mighty big call Mistie, when you have already admitted that great scientists and innovators can be left leaning.

Leftardism focuses on telling others how to act: in a nutshell, that's morality. Empiricism is, basically, making observations via the senses. There is no judgment in the moral sense in empirical claims.

Read David Hume and say that, Mistie. Or read John Locke on politics.

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85375 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women' Reply #218 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:54am How odd - Albert Einstein was a 'leftie'....
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30035 Gender:	Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women' Reply #219 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:23pm golly gosh Sar Major Grappler is this a drill exercise? Yessiree sure sounds like it Arrtenshun, Abart face .... Left, right, left, right, left Don't you love when intellectuals debate the obvious.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women' Reply #220 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:18pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:54am: How odd - Albert Einstein was a 'leftie'.... ANy wonder? He was a relativist.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96614	Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women' Reply #221 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 6:12pm Soren wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:18pm: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:54am: How odd - Albert Einstein was a 'leftie'.... ANy wonder? He was a relativist. He was a Joo, old chap. They don't have redemption. Unlike us, eh?
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Karnel New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30 Gender:	Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women' Reply #222 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 6:15pm We muselman's are on our way to heaven, no ?
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Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women'
Reply #223 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:40pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 6:12pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

How odd - Albert Einstein was a 'leftie'....

ANy wonder? He was a relativist.

He was a Joo, old chap. They don't have redemption.

Unlike us, eh?

Joos invented redemption, you arseseepingly stupid Paki Bustard

Can I say that?

Or is redemption a Mohamedan invention and anyone who says otherwise is a wacist Islamophobe??

Please explain, shining knight of the know-bugger-all lefty drongos.

Your luck is that mothras and gwegs and the other know-nothings here are even more ignorant than you.

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Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women'
Reply #224 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:47pm

Soren wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 6:12pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

How odd - Albert Einstein was a 'leftie'....

ANy wonder? He was a relativist.

He was a Joo, old chap. They don't have redemption.

Unlike us, eh?

Joos invented redemption, you arseseepingly stupid Paki Bustard

Can I say that?

Or is redemption a Mohamedan invention and anyone who says otherwise is a wacist Islamophobe??

Please explain, shining knight of the know-bugger-all lefty drongos.

I say good man ,

is that any way for a self confessed freemason

to address another ?

where is your honor good sir ...

do you think your adversary here is a member of the profane ?

im interested

namaste bro

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