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Reply #240 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 6:42pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 6:53pm:

Doesn’t sound like you’ve read much on the philosophy of science, Mistie. Science is based on scientific ideas.

The philosophy of science gets caught up in too much abstract thinking. Have you ever been to a laboratory and watched science in action?

Aristotle, Descartes, Locke, Hume, Popper, Kuhn...

Science, as we know it today, is only a few hundred years old. None of those you mention would be qualified as scientists. The latter two spoke of science, as we now understand it today, but did not do science.

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No, Mistie, I’ve never been to a laboratory. What would I see?

You would see a very rigorous process. Experiments have to be performed, results have to be witnessed, then wrote about, then peer-reviewed. Compare that with some lefty screeching about some utopia or supposed victim.

You don’t peer review things in the lab, Mistie. You peer review articles with findings.

What do you study at the uni?

Which is what I stated. Reread it.

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Reply #241 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 6:45pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:50am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:31pm:

Leftardism focuses on telling others how to act: in a nutshell, that's morality. Empiricism is, basically, making observations via the senses. There is no judgment in the moral sense in empirical claims.

Read David Hume and say that, Mistie. Or read John Locke on politics.

I have. Hume makes the fact/value distinction, which is directly related to the point I am making. Empirical claims are facts (more or less). Morality is within the realm of values.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10266 Gender:	Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women' Reply #242 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 6:46pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:54am: How odd - Albert Einstein was a 'leftie'.... What does physics have to do with leftism?
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Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women'
Reply #243 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 6:59pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 6:45pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:50am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 9:31pm:

Read David Hume and say that, Mistie. Or read John Locke on politics.

I have. Hume makes the fact/value distinction, which is directly related to the point I am making. Empirical claims are facts (more or less). Morality is within the realm of values.

Good point. I’m with Hume on this distinction.

Many of the worst things done have been done with the best of intentions, using the most articulate moral arguments.

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He Man Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1159 Gender:	Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women' Reply #244 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 7:41pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 6:46pm: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:54am: How odd - Albert Einstein was a 'leftie'.... What does physics have to do with leftism? Nothing.
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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85332 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Germaine Greer: Transgender women are 'not women' Reply #245 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 8:47pm Thanks for making my point.... being a scientist has nothing to do with 'left' or 'right' - though a scientist is entitled to his/her own views, same as anyone else....
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Reply #246 - Nov 10^th, 2015 at 5:47pm

The pansification of higher education continues:

More and more colleges and universities are allowing students to choose their own gender pronouns, meaning instead of just “he” and “she,” the options now include pronouns like “ze,” which are intended to be gender neutral.

Great. So now we’ll have entire campuses sounding like common island midgets. What a binary-busting breakthrough! According to Van Bailey, director of Bisexual, Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, and Queer student life at Harvard, the kids just love their new pronouns:

“The students are excited about it. They’re excited to have the control and the options. They’re excited that that doesn’t have to be a barrier to their classroom experience. You know, because that can be a really kind of chilling experience for a student.”
He’s talking about the “chilling experience” of being referred to as “he” or “she”. These people aren’t even fit for lab experiments.

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