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Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30 th, 2015 at 6:03pm: Karnal wrote on Oct 30 th, 2015 at 8:21am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30 th, 2015 at 5:25am: aquascoot wrote on Oct 28 th, 2015 at 10:32am: mothra wrote on Oct 26 th, 2015 at 6:53pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 26 th, 2015 at 6:44pm: mothra wrote on Oct 26 th, 2015 at 5:35pm: In any case, you skirt the point.
Why would it be notable that 'lefties' disagree with each other? You think we all think homogeneously?
It's hilarious watching lefties trying to outdo each other on who's the most offended. Again you spectacularly miss the point. If you stopped ascribing people's beliefs systems for them, you would expand your thinking tremendously. You know culture warrior, i remember you saying that someone should write a book or do a Ph D into the workings of the leftard brain . I thought you were just trying to be funny, but i can see now that it is no laughing matter. They have definitely got a wiring problem. People can have blindspots and rationalise being illogical, but i think it goes deeper then this. It could be some sort of prion - linked brain disease or due to some sort of amyloid deposition, but whatever it is, there appears to be an actual organic brain disorder amongst some on the left which is extremely worrying. More then just a book or a Ph D , i think we need the scientific community to tackle this and quickly. It is a cause of untold human suffering.  Yeah, I used to say that the hard and soft sciences should redirect most of their time and effort into understanding, and possibly curing, left-wing nihilism. It wouldn't surprise me to find some physiological deficiencies behind much of it, as many appear to be emasculated losers. I have been thinking lately though that the problem goes deeper. I think it's a spiritual problem. Religion was there in the past to help with those struggling with existential matters. But today there is no religion to help - or should I say, lefties reject outright religious solutions to life matters. There's an excellent article in Quadrant recently that hits on this point. It’s economics. People advocate their class interests, but you’re right. Those interests have been complicated by competing ideological forces. This is not just a classical Marxist position. Howard said the same about Keating, Abbott tried to say the same about Gillard. Keating.and Howard both acknowledged the primacy of the economy in politics, although they both shied away from the term class. Class is simply your relationship to the economic order, which in most cases is not simple at all. People in jobs need capital and capital needs workers. Class is not simply two social forces struggling. As our economy has increasingly become about branding, information and identity, our class interests have exploded. It’s possible for an unemployed steelworker to be a Tele-reading Tory, as many are. It’s possible for the world’s richest people to advocate wealth redistribution, as many do.- as George Soros, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet do. All animals have a pecking order and a place at the water hole. If this does have to do with neurology, it is class shaping that neurology. Change the economic conditions and you change the social order. Change that, and brains develop differently. You're still being too reductive in regards to economics. On thing human beings have always done, regards of time and culture, is to want meaning to their lives. This is where the materialist approach of economics and Marxism to give an all-encompassing description of life comes up short. Additionally, the territorial/tribal instinct humans possess is often only loosely related to economics. Lefties, in my view, suffer from a lack of meaning in their lives. Most are from the middle classes, so the economic problem has more or less been solved for them, so why the continual agitation and pessimism? They're obviously lacking something fulfilling in their lives. Meaning? Oh, you mean things like Hello Kitty One Direction, fake Gucci, Ford and Holden, and the number one internet search of all time - angry cat. Yes, these things give us meaning, just as back in the Middle Ages, fake Jesus thorns, nails or foreskins filled the number one relics list. Meaning doesn’t actually mean anything. The question of meaning assumes its own answer. Meaning simply joins the dots of supply and demand, fulfillment and desire. These are economic things. You can’t mean something you don’t already have, or want, or are led to believe. You can’t believe something you don’t already mean. This isn’t nihilism, it’s existential. You can’t have a paper cutter without the existence of paper. There is no "meaning", Mistie. If there was, you could tell me what it is.
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