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Reply #30 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:04am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 9:04am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 9:01am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 8:42am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 8:12am:

The history of FTTN ==> FTTH is well known. I don’t have to prove it.

There is a brain drain from Australia especially by ICT people. This is mainly because of the mishmash of rubbish the Libs are installing instead of a National Broadband Network.

Gawd, you're daft. I'm not talking about the history of one or the other. I'm talking about you proving the data pertaining to the graph is on FTTN or FTTH!!! Roll Eyes

I am not a primary school teacher, people on this board are presumed to be adults. So do some reading and educate yourself on the history of FTTN and FTTH in NZ. FTTN rollout was stopped early as it was useless and since then FTTH has been rolled out to a fair part of the country.

Or continue displaying your total ignorance—your call.

You make the claim, you back it up. It's very simple - we've all been asked to do it. If you won't we'll accept you are wrong and move on from your discredited graph.

Mopey Monk will keep this up for weeks, pretending there is proof and then providing none. It is is what imbeciles call 'debating'.

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Re: Fibre uptake zooming!
Reply #31 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:06am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 6:19am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 28^th, 2015 at 9:54pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 28^th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 28^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:

A brighter person than the Dumb Monk would note that the graph supplied also showed as as 4th in the OECD.

You really are a dummie, monk!

The graph also doesn't stipulate whether this is FTTN or FTTH.

FTTH—it is NZ we are talking about, started rolling out FTTN but soon realised it was rubbish and ran out FTTH. Guess Libs are sloooow learners.

You have some proof this is what the graph represents - besides your word, which is unreliable at best?

He doesnt provide proof. He provides paranoid delusion...

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Re: Fibre uptake zooming!
Reply #32 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:13am

Looks like ArmPit and Longy are primary school kids. That fits with their behavior here “Is so” “Is not!” Is so!” “You’re a liar” “No, YOU are a liar” and then the abuse comes.

Here you pathetic specimens of so–called adults:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/new-zealand-fibre-uptake-rate-10-times-oecd-average...

You might need to do more reading—moving your lips the whole time no doubt.

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Re: Fibre uptake zooming!
Reply #33 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:22am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 9:44am:

Like I said, you ain’t a schoolkid (presumably, one does sometimes wonder. . .) and I ain’t no teacher, do some reading. This is a good place to start: https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTheNationalBroadbandNetwork/

AiA’s troll–like post reminded me of something: Verizon and AT&T are changing to FTTH from FTTN. We will be the laugh of the planet once the UK switches to FTTH and that won’t be long, their FTTC[abinet] rollout has been nothing but trouble.

FaceBook??? You have the audacity to use facebook as proof of anything? This is why people laugh at you!

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Reply #34 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:22am

A "visionary" investment in fibre networks in New Zealand is propelling the country to the front of the OECD pack, network company Chorus told investors today.

Chief executive Mark Ratcliffe said the rate of fibre adoption in New Zealand is "comfortably" the fastest in the OECD and more than 10-times the OECD average (see chart below).

"It is clear that 2015 was the year that fibre went mass market in New Zealand, and that change has come upon all of us in the industry remarkably rapidly," he said.
Describing fibre as "the fourth utility", chairman Patrick Strange said, in contrast with New Zealand, Australia's fibre rollout was "awash in cost over-runs and red ink".

British Telecom has been building out a fibre-to-the-cabinet network and Australia was now looking to do likewise, he said.

"We completed our fibre-to-the-cabinet network in 2011, covering around 80 percent of the population."

Fibre use was taking off "massively", Ratcliffe said, outstripping the take-up of copper broadband at the same stage of availability.

After four years of availability, copper broadband was used by about 8 percent of customers who could buy it, he said. Fibre adoption is already pushing 20 percent while availability was now "nudging ahead" of the OECD average.

Ratcliffe said he had just returned from the Broadband World Forum in Europe and concluded they were not likely to catch up for "decades at least". Therefore, New Zealand needed to benchmark itself against the progressive broadband nations of Asia, not Europe and the US.

"We are the envy of many -- they want to do what we are doing but haven't figured out how yet. I firmly believe that the fibre network we are building today will be a visionary investment that future generations will thank us for."

While Chorus is clearly pleased with progress on the fibre rollout, it continues to struggle with regulation that has seen the price it can charge for legacy copper access -- still the bulk of its revenue -- slashed.

source: http://www.zdnet.com/article/new-zealand-fibre-uptake-rate-10-times-oecd-average...

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Re: Fibre uptake zooming!
Reply #35 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:39am

“Fast broadband should be just a utility”

http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/70081-these-days-fast-broa...

Well, too bloody bad because we are not going to get superfast internet. FTTN over Telstra copper wouldn’t provide decent speeds even if the nods were well provided with fibre which they are not.

HFC can’t provide fast internet either, too subject to congestion—and streamed video just adds to this congestion. You will have to go to Hansard for the committee looking into the MTM to see that there is no provision for DOCSIS3.1 in the NBN Co budget.

A steaming pile of second hand crap. Watch emigration of skilled people and creative industries rush out of Australia.

The MTM is treason!

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Re: Fibre uptake zooming!
Reply #36 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:46am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 11:39am:

“Fast broadband should be just a utility”

http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/70081-these-days-fast-broa...

Well, too bloody bad because we are not going to get superfast internet. FTTN over Telstra copper wouldn’t provide decent speeds even if the nods were well provided with fibre which they are not.

HFC can’t provide fast internet either, too subject to congestion—and streamed video just adds to this congestion. You will have to go to Hansard for the committee looking into the MTM to see that there is no provision for DOCSIS3.1 in the NBN Co budget.

A steaming pile of second hand crap. Watch emigration of skilled people and creative industries rush out of Australia.

The MTM is treason!

THIS IS THE UPLOAD ELECTION WE HAD TO HAVE!

YES INDEEDY: MALCOLM 'WHAT UPLOAD SPEED" TURNBULL IS IN VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE AND SHORTEN SMELLS BLOOD!

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Re: Fibre uptake zooming!
Reply #37 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 12:12pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 9:44am:

Like I said, you ain’t a schoolkid (presumably, one does sometimes wonder. . .) and I ain’t no teacher, do some reading. This is a good place to start: https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTheNationalBroadbandNetwork/

AiA’s troll–like post reminded me of something: Verizon and AT&T are changing to FTTH from FTTN. We will be the laugh of the planet once the UK switches to FTTH and that won’t be long, their FTTC[abinet] rollout has been nothing but trouble.

LMAO - using Facebook to try to back up your falsehoods. Yeah, we should all use FB as our source because of the sheer volume of peer-reviewed articles it contains! Grin

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Reply #38 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 12:17pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 12:12pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 9:44am:

Like I said, you ain’t a schoolkid (presumably, one does sometimes wonder. . .) and I ain’t no teacher, do some reading. This is a good place to start: https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTheNationalBroadbandNetwork/

AiA’s troll–like post reminded me of something: Verizon and AT&T are changing to FTTH from FTTN. We will be the laugh of the planet once the UK switches to FTTH and that won’t be long, their FTTC[abinet] rollout has been nothing but trouble.

LMAO - using Facebook to try to back up your falsehoods. Yeah, we should all use FB as our source because of the sheer volume of peer-reviewed articles it contains! Grin

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Re: Fibre uptake zooming!
Reply #39 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:20pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 12:12pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 9:44am:

Like I said, you ain’t a schoolkid (presumably, one does sometimes wonder. . .) and I ain’t no teacher, do some reading. This is a good place to start: https://www.facebook.com/FriendsOfTheNationalBroadbandNetwork/

AiA’s troll–like post reminded me of something: Verizon and AT&T are changing to FTTH from FTTN. We will be the laugh of the planet once the UK switches to FTTH and that won’t be long, their FTTC[abinet] rollout has been nothing but trouble.

LMAO - using Facebook to try to back up your falsehoods. Yeah, we should all use FB as our source because of the sheer volume of peer-reviewed articles it contains! Grin

That page is full of information from technical sources. It would probably hurt your little head to read it. Ignorance is bliss to Armpit.

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Reply #40 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:26pm

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In 2013, then opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull pledged to ditch Labor's fibre-to-the-premises national broadband network and replace it with a mix of technologies including upgraded copper wires and pay TV cables.

Now, despite a blowout in the cost of his version of the NBN from $29.5 billion to $56 billion, he insists it is better than what Labor would have delivered.

'A mixed technology model is cheaper and faster and more efficient. That is beyond question,' Turnbull, now prime minister, told parliament last week.

But, according to communications consultant Paul Budde, it's not. He says many in the telecommunications industry are losing confidence in the NBN.

'If you look at the shambles which we have now, obviously he doesn't know what he is doing,' Budde says.

Two years after taking office, Turnbull continues to blame the rising cost of the NBN on the previous Labor government and the previous management of the company.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/turnbulls-faster...

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Re: Fibre uptake zooming!
Reply #41 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 5:19pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:26pm:

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In 2013, then opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull pledged to ditch Labor's fibre-to-the-premises national broadband network and replace it with a mix of technologies including upgraded copper wires and pay TV cables.

Now, despite a blowout in the cost of his version of the NBN from $29.5 billion to $56 billion, he insists it is better than what Labor would have delivered.

'A mixed technology model is cheaper and faster and more efficient. That is beyond question,' Turnbull, now prime minister, told parliament last week.

But, according to communications consultant Paul Budde, it's not. He says many in the telecommunications industry are losing confidence in the NBN.

'If you look at the shambles which we have now, obviously he doesn't know what he is doing,' Budde says.

Two years after taking office, Turnbull continues to blame the rising cost of the NBN on the previous Labor government and the previous management of the company.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/turnbulls-faster...

The obsolete technologies Malodorous is running out are not compatible and so IT costs are soaring past $1Bn.

https://delimiter.com.au/2015/11/02/fifield-gets-serious-about-vdsl-cross-talk-i...

GST is being used as a distraction

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