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Reply #165 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:23pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

Anyway Cods....I was waiting for Herb to pull up a chair so we could continue our discussion.

It seems he's not going to turn up.

Ahh well, never mind, at least I had the chance to briefly chat to you

I find this topic sad so sad and would love for us to come up with the answers to stopping it...I cant bear the thought of these children being abused it sends chills through me...because I kn ow its going on RIGHT NOW AT THIS VERY MOMENT...as a society we all own this we really do...

I would kn ow if one of my family were abusing one of their children I WOULD KNOW... I would not stand for it..

this child was 7 years old... where was his extended family.. why did they not remove him...

I ask that question all the time..I have never seren where a member of the dead childs family was ever charged with not doing a thing about it..

I kn ow reporting it to DOCS lets a lot of people off the hook so to speak...but it wouldnt be enough for me....we have to change things we do...

domestic violence must be changed to FAMILY VIOLENCE....if mum and dad cant get on then the children become the victims dont they...

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Reply #166 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:29pm

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:06pm:

Looking at this thread, it's not Aussie who's run it off into a ditch.

And it's not him doing it now.

perhaps you should take a peek at reply 80...and thats the beginning...I am not saying he is alone...but??? its every thread mothra...he likes the control and he leads the attacks if he can.. lisa bites she always does and he knows it...thats why he attacks always the achilles heel..
havent you noticed?.

I don't know how to properly respond to that, but given you chose to take a swipe at me ~ What Achille's heel?

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83700 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The trend continues - mama's new boyfriend .. Reply #167 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:04pm Now that's what I'm talking about - right there! All this internecine fighting and failure to address the issues raised.... I reckon bring back the death penalty for losers - men and women - who kill kids..... and dire punishment on the rack for those who neglect and abuse them.....
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Reply #168 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:11pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 4:58pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:37am:

Why do you do this greg? Live & let live

you're talking about Herb here Boges, he doesn't live, he merely exists

.. and in that twilight space between time and dawn, sometimes great truths emerge......

Damn - I need you people around to inspire my writing sometimes......

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Reply #169 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:34pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 4:58pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:37am:

Why do you do this greg? Live & let live

you're talking about Herb here Boges, he doesn't live, he merely exists

.. and in that twilight space between time and dawn, sometimes great truths emerge......

Damn - I need you people around to inspire my writing sometimes......

I want a cut of your $4 in royalties Grin

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #170 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:38pm

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

Anyway Cods....I was waiting for Herb to pull up a chair so we could continue our discussion.

It seems he's not going to turn up.

Ahh well, never mind, at least I had the chance to briefly chat to you

I find this topic sad so sad and would love for us to come up with the answers to stopping it...I cant bear the thought of these children being abused it sends chills through me...because I know its going on RIGHT NOW AT THIS VERY MOMENT...as a society we all own this we really do...

I would know if one of my family were abusing one of their children I WOULD KNOW... I would not stand for it..

this child was 7 years old... where was his extended family.. why did they not remove him...

I ask that question all the time..I have never seren where a member of the dead childs family was ever charged with not doing a thing about it..

I kn ow reporting it to DOCS lets a lot of people off the hook so to speak...but it wouldnt be enough for me....we have to change things we do...

domestic violence must be changed to FAMILY VIOLENCE....if mum and dad cant get on then the children become the victims dont they...

Absolutely.

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Reply #171 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:49pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 7:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 4:58pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:37am:

Why do you do this greg? Live & let live

you're talking about Herb here Boges, he doesn't live, he merely exists

.. and in that twilight space between time and dawn, sometimes great truths emerge......

Damn - I need you people around to inspire my writing sometimes......

Your fiction is great crappler keep up the great work.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83700 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The trend continues - mama's new boyfriend .. Reply #173 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 1:41am Kamal wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 12:11am: The Grappler is our resident Walter Mitty. I like Walter. Thanks for dreaming... got anything substantial to add to the discussion, dreamer?
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Reply #174 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 1:47am

Now - on the subject ... rissoles.. the reality is that a child is seven times more likely to be abused and even killed by a combination of birth mother ....

....(awaits citation) and 'new lion' (a designation I created myself to define the reality that a new lion in a pride kills off his predecessors' cubs)....

.. than by the natural father.

Some of you children need to do more than make unsubstantiated statements...... if you do not wish to discuss the issues raised here, kindly leave before the moderators get to you.

Get back on subject or get out.....

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Reply #175 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:40am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 1:47am:

Now - on the subject ... rissoles.. the reality is that a child is seven times more likely to be abused and even killed by a combination of birth mother ....

....(awaits citation) and 'new lion' (a designation I created myself to define the reality that a new lion in a pride kills off his predecessors' cubs)....

.. than by the natural father.

Some of you children need to do more than make unsubstantiated statements...... if you do not wish to discuss the issues raised here, kindly leave before the moderators get to you.

Get back on subject or get out.....

I consider that statement above UNSUBSTANTIATED...

give us the FACTS grap... btw I prefer to read AUSSIE fact and not AMERICAN thanks..

you are not taking into account the n umber of children killed by their fathers to get back at their mother......Rosie Batty could fill you in about at least one..

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Reply #176 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:12am

Here you go Cods. Some Australian statistics.

"The research showed women were almost as likely as men to commit filicide, with fathers responsible for the deaths of 140 children and women 127 children, over that 11-year period. [The remainder were killed by both parents.]
But their motives were markedly different.
“In some cases the primary motive was their own suicide and they killed their child as a part of that,” Dr Kirkwood said.
“They didn't want to leave the child or children behind, or worried about the distress, or didn't believe they would be as loved or cared for without them.
“We found that sort of suicide was more commonly perpetrated by mothers, but not always.”

http://www.smh.com.au/national/seeking-to-understand-the-inexplicable-20120224-1...

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Reply #177 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:14am

"The death of children under the hand of their father often, but not always, had a markedly different motive, Dr Kirkwood said.
“In other circumstances, the primary motive was to kill the child, as a way to get back at their ex-partner and we found that it was men who were more likely to kill their child or children for revenge. The primary motive was to get back at the mother,” she said.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/seeking-to-understand-the-inexplicable-20120224-1...

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Reply #178 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:46am

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

"The death of children under the hand of their father often, but not always, had a markedly different motive, Dr Kirkwood said.
“In other circumstances, the primary motive was to kill the child, as a way to get back at their ex-partner and we found that it was men who were more likely to kill their child or children for revenge. The primary motive was to get back at the mother,” she said.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/seeking-to-understand-the-inexplicable-20120224-1...

like I said.. revenge... what about the dad at Lockwood who killed his whole family...tragic..those stats are a bit old...we have had some horrendous deaths which is my argument its getting worse.. more and more are being missed.. HOW COME..

grap keeps bringing it back to genda.. I dont really care who does the killing..male or female...it is a fact MORE men do the killing...but that isnt the issue to me..... what is going on is a disgrace....as the child ,is the victim every time. one father even set his children on fire...to get back at his wife... can anyone explain why it is this was allowed to happen.. those children survived but it doesn undo what they went through...and how it was missed????>...

are we paying attention??????

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Reply #179 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:47am

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 10:12am:

Here you go Cods. Some Australian statistics.

"The research showed women were almost as likely as men to commit filicide, with fathers responsible for the deaths of 140 children and women 127 children, over that 11-year period. [The remainder were killed by both parents.]
But their motives were markedly different.
“In some cases the primary motive was their own suicide and they killed their child as a part of that,” Dr Kirkwood said.
“They didn't want to leave the child or children behind, or worried about the distress, or didn't believe they would be as loved or cared for without them.
“We found that sort of suicide was more commonly perpetrated by mothers, but not always.”

http://www.smh.com.au/national/seeking-to-understand-the-inexplicable-20120224-1...

still more men than women..but I really dont care its the children I care about not stats. but thanks anyway

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