While I'm appalled at the subject matter on this thread, I realise that the discussion is long overdue.

I think everyone here considers the children involved to be the ultimate victims, but we seem to have neglected the timeline involved with this issue.

I'd be most interested to see a graph depicting the instances of filicide projected over the past hundred years for the simple reason that I believe that the breakdown of the traditional family unit plays a major part in such outrages.

It's been 40 years since no-fault divorce was initiated in this country and our standards of living have increased dramatically over that same period, along with the penalties and responsibilities associated with the raising of children.

I have no interest in laying blame on either gender, instead I'm interested in the role that Government has played in provoking such extreme reactions from both genders because in its attempt to level the playing field of family disputes, Government has possibly released another Genii from its box.

While I realise the the Family Law Act was introduced to address the inequality existing prior to its enactment, one wonders about the casualties piled up since its inception.

Of course, the role of the MSM can never be discounted because it's only bad news that make the news. One wonders how many outrages like celebrity assassination, child killings, suicides, mass shootings and terrorist activities have been promoted by mere reporting and the emergence of the 'copy-cat' killers.

Our current policy of focussing on the rehabilitation of the animals we already have convicted is something that needs to reconsidered:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/breaking-news/serial-rapist-to-be-freed-from-...

Someone's future boyfriend?

And what about the children?

... wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 2:23pm:


Good stuff...... hope it helps to sort out this morass of inadequate information.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:




I had a look through it. It didn't give us the information we a re after.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:



It would seem so. With bashings being the primary method. When you think one good hit could kill a kid it's horrifying to think there is violence towards them out there. What can possibly be so wrong with you that you hit a kid?

I'd be really interested to read the breakdown though. It's a shame it is not readily available.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 1:52am:



We all have to walk in our own shoes Grap. Just because someone isn't forthcoming doesn't mean they don't have a wealth of experience.

I have had a tremendous amount to do with single parents. I'm not seeing their story represented here overly well.

mothra wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 2:06am:



There are many stories and situations that need to be rectified.  In seeking the answers to relationship/family violence (the latter term the one preferred by Rose Batty), we need to look at the whole gamut of problems and issues.

I have to say it again - the current approach of vilifying men as evil perpetrators, and then using that as an excuse to attack all men, is never going to work.  The fools who run this show at huge public expense and who garner great kudos from their inane statements, can say all they like - but they will never resolve this issue by continually advocating greater and greater violence as the solution to the problems.

I wrote years ago that this approach is like Japan assuming that bombing Pearl Harbour would bring peace.... it will never happen.

On a personal note - I, for one as a man, am thoroughly sick and tired of being labeled the 'oppressor' when all I have ever done is try to have a decent life and prosper.  That labeling is violence in itself....and I require a full apology and full compensation.

Now that should show - since everyone who knows me knows full well that I am a gentle and civilised man - how very far this violent approach to resolving violence has created an atmosphere of violence as the only way to resolve violence.

A never-ending circle of descent into hell.

On a deeper personal note - I am one step away from civil war myself over the handling of these issues, and that says a lot.  One more unwarranted hit at me, and I WILL respond, and that response will be catastrophic to the real perpetrators of violence in this society.

Tell that to the cops and the courts, Mothra.. to them it is ALL men on any pretext.  It's called civil war declared by them.....

cods wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 6:17am:



When the 'deed' is considered to be nothing more than someone having a feeling about something - there is no 'deed', and it is outside the privilege of government to install a system of imposing a sanction by the court on such a basis - and then use that installed sanction as the excuse to attack one side of the question.

That is the truth about the current handling of 'domestic violence' - and it is the root cause of the escalation in violence associated with that handling.

Do try to keep the two issues separate - there is 'domestic violence' as currently purveyed, which is a direct cause of escalation of violence between men and women - and there are distinct acts of some scumbag killing a child.

There is no equation between the two, and this kind of legislative chicanery only creates a totally false impression of the truth.

Murder is murder - a civil issue of someone's feelings is not a crime, and never should be.... but imposing sanctions by a court in response to someone's 'feelings' IS a crime, and has been for over a thousand years.