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Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:41am
 
Amnesty says Australian officials who paid people smugglers to turn boats back committed transnational crimes

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-29/paying-people-smugglers-to-turn-around-is-...


Australian officials who paid people smugglers to return to Indonesia have committed a transnational crime and put lives at risk, according to allegations from Amnesty International.

The organisation has released a report in which it details evidence of Australian Navy and Border Force officials intercepting a people smuggling boat and paying the crew to turn around.

It recommends a royal commission into the alleged payments, as well as an investigation into a second incident where payments were also alleged to have been made.

A spokesman for Immigration Minister Peter Dutton described the report as "a slur on the men and women of the Australian Border Force (ABF) and Australian Defence Force (ADF)".

The report said the first case occurred in May 2015, when a boat believed to be heading to New Zealand was intercepted, carrying more than 60 people and six crew.

Amnesty said it has interviewed all of the people on board to piece together exactly what happened.

The boat was allegedly intercepted twice, before being taken to Greenhill Island near Darwin.

People on board were then encouraged to bathe on the Border Force ship, according to Amnesty International.

"It was at this point, on the original boat, that the crew claim the Australian officials gave them money," the report said.

"The crew told Amnesty International that two of them received $USD6,000 each, and four received $USD5,000 apiece, making a total of $USD32,000.

"One of the 15 asylum seekers who had remained on board described how he saw the captain meeting with the Australians in the boat's kitchen and saw the captain put a thick white envelope in his shorts' pocket."

Asylum seekers turned back despite risks of human rights abuses

The second alleged incident happened in late July, and Amnesty said it interviewed 15 people from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Myanmar.

That boat was allegedly pushed back to Rote Island in Indonesia.

Amnesty International claimed the evidence suggests a breach of international law, because "Australian officials appear to have organised or directed the crew to commit a people-smuggling offence".

"The $USD32,000 constitutes a financial benefit to the crew to procure the illegal entry," the report said.

"The Australian officials who paid the smugglers and instructed them to land on Rote Island in May 2015 may also have participated as accomplices in the transnational crime of people-smuggling."

Further to that, Amnesty said the officials put lives at risk.

"In the cases documented by Amnesty International, Australia turned back people, at least some of whom were asylum seekers, without any assessment of each person's individual situation, including the risk of serious human rights violations or abuses, either in the country to which they were being returned or in another country to which they might be sent."

Dutton's office says ABF and ADF operate lawfully

A spokesman Mr Dutton has slammed the report.

"The Government has responded previously to these allegations, including in a submission to the Legal and Constitutional Affairs References Committee on 30 July 2015," the spokesman said.

"People on intercepted vessels are held lawfully in secure, safe, humane, and appropriate conditions by the personnel of the Australian Border Force and the Australian Defence Force.

"To suggest otherwise, as Amnesty has done, is to cast a slur on the men and women of the ABF and ADF."

The spokesman said the Government will always act in the best interests of the Australian people.

"Operation Sovereign Borders is conducted consistent with Australian domestic law and Australia's obligations under international law."


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Reply #1 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:44am
 
If it's true, I'd say it's money well spent. No one has died at sea since the Coalition came to power.
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Reply #2 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:45am
 
And the Greens bear part of the blame for this, blocking the Malaysian Centre and making the subsequent concentration camps and ill treatment inevitable.

Greens and Libs have blood on their hands.
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Reply #3 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:47am
 
What the sick demented greens and idiot leftist swill really miss  Sad ...





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Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:45am:
And the Greens bear part of the blame for this, blocking the Malaysian Centre and making the subsequent concentration camps and ill treatment inevitable.

Greens and Libs have blood on their hands.


So does the High Court of the Commonwealth of Australia, if we go by your twisted thinking. Blocking the Malaysian non-solution was the one right thing the Greens did.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:44am:
If it's true, I'd say it's money well spent. No one has died at sea since the Coalition came to power.

How do you know that? Just made it up? They are not “commenting on on–water matters” remember?

There was one AS killed in one lot sent back in an orange liferaft and another was killed in the Manus Is concentration camp. That makes two AS deaths that we know of!
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Reply #6 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:51am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:50am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:44am:
If it's true, I'd say it's money well spent. No one has died at sea since the Coalition came to power.

How do you know that? Just made it up? They are not “commenting on on–water matters” remember?

There was one AS killed in one lot sent back in an orange liferaft and another was killed in the Manus Is concentration camp. That makes two AS deaths that we know of!


You really think the government could cover up deaths at sea in the age of instant social media and so on? I see you've still got your tin foil hat on. Roll Eyes
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Reply #7 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:54am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:48am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:45am:
And the Greens bear part of the blame for this, blocking the Malaysian Centre and making the subsequent concentration camps and ill treatment inevitable.

Greens and Libs have blood on their hands.


So does the High Court of the Commonwealth of Australia, if we go by your twisted thinking. Blocking the Malaysian non-solution was the one right thing the Greens did.

The HC interprets the law.

Libs and Greens have blood on their hands—the bulk of boats and drownings was after the two right wing parties, the Libs and Greens, threatened to block the Malaysian centre.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:44am:
If it's true, I'd say it's money well spent. No one has died at sea since the Coalition came to power.



Even if all the drownings were operational matters and under the cone of silence.

How would you know  ?
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Reply #9 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:56am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:45am:
And the Greens bear part of the blame for this, blocking the Malaysian Centre and making the subsequent concentration camps and ill treatment inevitable.

Greens and Libs have blood on their hands.



The Senate's job is not to pass bad legislation. The undermining of vulnerable people is bad legislation.
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Reply #10 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:57am
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:47am:
What the sick demented greens and idiot leftist swill really miss  Sad ...





http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2376604-3x2-340x227.jpg



Trying to cash in on deaths ... not a surprise.

How about the refugee's lives the libs risked in their illegal people smuggling.
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Reply #11 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:00am
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:47am:
What the sick demented greens and idiot leftist swill really miss  Sad ...





http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2376604-3x2-340x227.jpg



Exactly, but they don't miss it, they choose to ignore it.
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____ wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:54am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:44am:
If it's true, I'd say it's money well spent. No one has died at sea since the Coalition came to power.



Even if all the drownings were operational matters and under the cone of silence.

How would you know  ?


Yeah, sure. We live in an age where information can be kept under wraps, completely airtight and no one knows. You're pretty gullible!
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Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:54am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:48am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:45am:
And the Greens bear part of the blame for this, blocking the Malaysian Centre and making the subsequent concentration camps and ill treatment inevitable.

Greens and Libs have blood on their hands.


So does the High Court of the Commonwealth of Australia, if we go by your twisted thinking. Blocking the Malaysian non-solution was the one right thing the Greens did.

The HC interprets the law.

Libs and Greens have blood on their hands—the bulk of boats and drownings was after the two right wing parties, the Libs and Greens, threatened to block the Malaysian centre.


Yes, and determined that Labor's plan broke the law. This vindicated the stance of the Coalition in being against the Malaysian non-solution.
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Reply #14 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:04am
 
Muttley wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 8:00am:
innocentbystander. wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 7:47am:
What the sick demented greens and idiot leftist swill really miss  Sad ...





http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2376604-3x2-340x227.jpg



Exactly, but they don't miss it, they choose to ignore it.




People fleeing persecution take risks.

Bombing the middle east creates people fleeing and drowning, heading to europe. 

Will the libs take some responsibility for these drownings?
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