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Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:24am
 
https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/29939749/amnesty-blasts-australias-lawless-boa...

Sydney (AFP) - Amnesty International on Thursday slammed Australia's secretive operation to deter boatpeople as a "lawless venture" in a damning report authorities called a "slur" on defence and border force personnel.

The rights group claimed to have evidence Australian officials were involved in "transnational crime" and had abused asylum-seekers in its report "By Hook or By Crook".

"New evidence gathered by Amnesty International suggests that Australia's secretive maritime border control operations now resemble a lawless venture," it said.

Under the conservative government's Operation Sovereign Borders policy, asylum-seekers attempting to enter Australia by boat are turned back or sent to detention camps on Nauru or Papua New Guinea.

They are blocked from resettling on the mainland, even if found to be genuine refugees -- a policy that has drawn international criticism, but which Canberra argues saves lives by deterring boat people.

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton rejected Amnesty's report -- which follows previous accusations Australian authorities had paid off people-smugglers -- as a "slur" and said the country complied with domestic and international law.

"People on intercepted vessels are held lawfully in secure, safe, humane, and appropriate conditions by the personnel of the Australian Border Force (ABF) and the Australian Defence Force (ADF)," his spokesman said.

"To suggest otherwise, as Amnesty has done, is to cast a slur on the men and women of the ABF and ADF."

Amnesty claimed there had been "criminal activity by government officials, including pay-offs to boat crews and abusive treatment of women, men and children seeking asylum".

It cited witness testimonies from asylum-seekers, boat crew and Indonesian police that claimed Australian officials in May paid US$32,000 to six crew members who were taking 65 asylum-seekers to New Zealand, to get them to return to Indonesia instead.

Australian officials endangered the lives of the people seeking asylum by transferring them to different boats that did not have enough fuel, Amnesty said.

It also suggested Australian officials paid money to the crew of another boat turned back in July.

"Amnesty International and many others have documented an alarming pattern of abusive and illegal pushbacks by the Australian authorities," the rights group said.

"Such turnbacks violate the principle of non-refoulement, which says refugees cannot be sent back to countries where they are at risk, and also deny people the right to have their asylum claims assessed."

The group called for a public inquiry to investigate allegations of "criminal and unlawful acts committed by Australian government officials".

Canberra has said its hardline immigration policy is necessary to stop asylum-seekers from dying at sea, with no successful boat arrivals since August last year.

Under the previous Labor government, at least 1,200 people died trying to reach Australia by boat between 2008 and 2013.
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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #1 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:27am
 
Under ALP's soft stance on illegals - thousands died trying to get onto Australian soil on leaky boats

Under 3 years of LIB government - I would hazard a guess that no more than 5 have died.

We want refugees in Australia - but they must go through the normal legal channel. Go through the process like everyone else.

If you go through illegal means - you can F*ck off. You aint setting foot on Australian soil
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Reply #2 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:33am
 
So set up a Regional Processing Centre in Malaysia. . .oh wait!

Most of the boats, ASs and drowings happened after the conservative Parties, the Libs and Greens. Libs and Greens have blood on their hands.
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Reply #3 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:39am
 
Libs The People Smuggling Criminals

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1446068465

Did you miss this thread maqqa?
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Reply #4 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 12:10pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 11:33am:
So set up a Regional Processing Centre in Malaysia. . .oh wait!

Most of the boats, ASs and drowings happened after the conservative Parties, the Libs and Greens. Libs and Greens have blood on their hands.


Wrong. Most happened before.
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Reply #5 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:05pm
 
Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been subjected to refoulement? No - it's been happening.

Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been killed after being returned to their country of origin? No, they can't.

Any discussion of the death toll has to include refugees who are killed after refoulement.
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Reply #6 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:09pm
 
Has been for over two hundred years - the forces of law are merely another set of criminals established in positions of control, who have perverted the usage of Law to suit themselves.

You should know that....
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Reply #7 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 3:59pm
 
Bam wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been subjected to refoulement? No - it's been happening.

Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been killed after being returned to their country of origin? No, they can't.

Any discussion of the death toll has to include refugees who are killed after refoulement.


For which you naturally have detailed reliable confirmed statistics, right?  And how many people does the rest have to take in to eliminate this risk? 300 million? 600 million? A billion or two? And yes, that is the scale of the issue.
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Reply #8 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 5:12pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Bam wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been subjected to refoulement? No - it's been happening.

Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been killed after being returned to their country of origin? No, they can't.

Any discussion of the death toll has to include refugees who are killed after refoulement.


For which you naturally have detailed reliable confirmed statistics, right?

Ask the Liberals ... they have suppressed some of that information for "operational reasons".
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Reply #9 - Oct 29th, 2015 at 5:39pm
 
Usual suspects butthurt that Australia no longer runs a passenger service a satellite phone call away from an Indonesian beaches surf.
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Reply #10 - Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:17pm
 
Bam wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been subjected to refoulement? No - it's been happening.

Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been killed after being returned to their country of origin? No, they can't.

Any discussion of the death toll has to include refugees who are killed after refoulement.


Dead asylum shoppers seekers didn't matter to the Laborites and Greens when Labor was in power. But now they're all compassionate. Pardon me for being skeptical about their compassion.
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Reply #11 - Oct 30th, 2015 at 8:32pm
 
Bam wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been subjected to refoulement? No - it's been happening.

Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been killed after being returned to their country of origin? No, they can't.

Any discussion of the death toll has to include refugees who are killed after refoulement.


They can guarantee 4 were settled in cambodia , for 55 milllllllllllllllllion dollars  Cheesy
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Reply #12 - Oct 30th, 2015 at 8:36pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:17pm:
Bam wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been subjected to refoulement? No - it's been happening.

Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been killed after being returned to their country of origin? No, they can't.

Any discussion of the death toll has to include refugees who are killed after refoulement.


Dead asylum shoppers seekers didn't matter to the Laborites and Greens when Labor was in power. But now they're all compassionate. Pardon me for being skeptical about their compassion.


Starwars you need to provide some links , or was it conservative secret wars , hard to keep up with all your psuedos post modern
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Reply #13 - Oct 30th, 2015 at 10:32pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:17pm:
Bam wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been subjected to refoulement? No - it's been happening.

Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been killed after being returned to their country of origin? No, they can't.

Any discussion of the death toll has to include refugees who are killed after refoulement.


Dead asylum shoppers seekers didn't matter to the Laborites and Greens when Labor was in power. But now they're all compassionate. Pardon me for being skeptical about their compassion.



Yes they did Mistie. We keep telling you that. Why do you refuse to believe it? Suit your agenda?
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Re: Amnesty - Australia "lawless"
Reply #14 - Oct 30th, 2015 at 10:37pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 30th, 2015 at 6:17pm:
Bam wrote on Oct 29th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been subjected to refoulement? No - it's been happening.

Can the conservatives guarantee that no refugee has been killed after being returned to their country of origin? No, they can't.

Any discussion of the death toll has to include refugees who are killed after refoulement.


Dead asylum shoppers seekers didn't matter to the Laborites and Greens when Labor was in power. But now they're all compassionate. Pardon me for being skeptical about their compassion.




Yeah they want to let em come in again by boat to die at sea smashed up on the rocks.

What a joke, useless imbeciles labor are. They are in pretend compassionate mode now since they have been dumped down the sewer in the polls.
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