aquascoot wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:43am:


The recipients of Social Security Rights ARE taxpayers - every day in every way apart from income tax, and even when they work they pay that.

Answer:-  provide full employment and get ass many as possible paying income tax, then chop the GST - it was only ever a stopgap to plug the hole caused by corporate/government rape of employment and the plan to create a perpetual pool of un- and under-employed as a social control measure.

Is No Money - Is No Problem!  Canberra Rules... the less money the most aggrieved in society have, the less opportunity they have to change things or oppose anything..  those with the most to say have no voice..... and if they're desperate enough they'll do our bidding without question for the chance to turn a buck.

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Funny how that happens in any controversial discussion here...

aquascoot wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:43am:




I'm sure you would and champagne and cigars and a free holiday.

Luckily Centrelink clients have the option to appeal.

Why is it so hard for some to accept that a public service is there to provide service.. and when it fails, it should be castigated for failure to do its job.

Oh, I get it - under an LNP government public service is optional and at the discretion of the provider.....

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:50am:


Nonsense.  The entire economy is based around a manageable amount of unemployment.  The minute that there are more jobs than people, the minute people have no incentive to stick with one job.

Would be great for workers, but I doubt employers would find it a positive force.

aquascoot wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:51am:


Every minute unemployed people spend on hold or trying to contact centerlink is a minute they aren't looking/applying/writing resumes/writing cover letters/networking.

This faffing about doesn't do anything.  Disclaimer:  never received any centerlink payments of any kind.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:50am:



centrelink staff, if they are to do their job properly would have to spend several years with many clients.

many clients have a negative attitude to life and a total misunderstanding of how to construct a happy life.

to "rewrite the software" in their brains , so they could learn to be

charged
positive
optomistic
self actualised

individuals would require , literally , a lifetime of retraining.

its an investment that the system is incapable of making.

how many of the unemployed would consider going to the library and borrowing (for free) Tony Robbins international best seller  Awaken the Giant Within, to read whilst they were held up on the phone or standing in the queue at centrelink.

They are so lacking in the mental muscle of self discipline, they cant even choose an apple over a chocolate bar.

It is their life and it will be over in an instant.

if they dont aim to improve then they will assume the default position of failure.

Most species that have ever walked the face of the earth are exinct.
Failure and extinction are hte natural order of things unless you take action 

mariacostel wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:32am:


Yes, but it can't happen to everyone, hence there will be people who need assistance.

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