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...........the bloodthirsty verses that abrogate the peaceful mecca verses. Yet here we have two separate Medina verses unambiguously commanding peace and tolerance - precisely during the time when Muhammad was in a position of power. ............

so there are blood thirsty verses that negate nice ones ?

Course, when moh was in power he'ld say "everyone just be nice now."

You should get your memes straight sprint - Soren was arguing the exact opposite.

so you agree with me ?
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Reply #1 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:50pm

What do you mean by "deletings" sprint?

Isn't it interesting your choice of slur against The Prophet:

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Course, when moh was in power he'ld [sic] say "everyone just be nice now."

as opposed to the more standard...

"Course when moh was in power he no longer needed to be nice, and was able to start ordering the slaughter of anyone he didn't like".

So as to your question Sprint - do I agree that Muhammad ordered his followers to treat previous enemies and other non-muslims with respect and coexist peacefully - even though he was in a position to do what he liked with them?

Umm yeah, as a matter of fact I do Sprint.

Is that what you are saying sprint? OOPS!

Somehow I'm guessing you'll now rethink that rather ill-considered slur Grin

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #2 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:58pm

First of all he is only slurring a prophet if mo actually is one. To you obviously think he is, to him he is probably not, to me there is no proof mo even existed. Just a cool story decades later on written by someone else.

Why do you believe what you said you do when the Qu'ran shows the islamic god has a different perspective. Would not you and mo be going against the Qu'ran ?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #3 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:16pm What about you He Man, do you think that sprint was right to say Muhammad preached peace and tolerance after he was in power?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #4 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:18pm He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:58pm: Why do you believe what you said you do when the Qu'ran shows the islamic god has a different perspective. You mean like the two Medinan verses calling for peace and tolerance I just quoted?
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Reply #5 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:16pm:

What about you He Man, do you think that sprint was right to say Muhammad preached peace and tolerance after he was in power?

I don't even believe mohammed even existed as there is not one shred of evidence that he did, so asking me is a waste of time.

I was interested why you would think mohammed acted differently to the islamic gods perspective as written in the qu'ran book.

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Reply #6 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:18pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:58pm:

Why do you believe what you said you do when the Qu'ran shows the islamic god has a different perspective.

You mean like the two Medinan verses calling for peace and tolerance I just quoted? Grin

I am not quite sure why you are laughing. I see no reference to where they were from if you were in fact quoting something.

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Reply #7 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:38pm

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:21pm:

I am not quite sure why you are laughing. I see no reference to where they were from if you were in fact quoting something.

Of course you don't see, because you are only interested in trolling and not understanding what is being discussed.

If you bothered to follow the actual discussion you would have seen the two Quranic (Medina) verses I quoted preaching the exact opposite to what you claim the Quran preaches. Hence my laughter.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #8 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:42pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:38pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:21pm:

I am not quite sure why you are laughing. I see no reference to where they were from if you were in fact quoting something.

Of course you don't see, because you are only interested in trolling and not understanding what is being discussed.

If you bothered to follow the actual discussion you would have seen the two Quranic (Medina) verses I quoted preaching the exact opposite to what you claim the Quran preaches. Hence my laughter.

I see perfectly clear.
So not referencing your quotes is funny. I'd say you are the troll not giving the references to the quotes and calling other people trolls that point out you are at present referencing and might I add quoting absolutely nothing.

I am not sprint why would you think I run around reading all your posts. I know what the Qu'ran says and made my comment.

Now if you want a civilized discussion reference your quotes or don't bother, but don't run around calling people trolls who pick you up on non referenced material.

If you don't understand the teaching in the qu'ran and its overall message of the muslim god in context I suggest you do a little more study on the subject rather than cherry picking two sentences out of it that I still do not know where they are from.

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Reply #10 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:46pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:44pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:19pm:

I don't even believe mohammed even existed as there is not one shred of evidence that he did

I wonder what counts as "evidence" in your funny little mind?

Clearly not what is constituted as evidence in your funny little mind.

Care to share your evidence since we are now being diverted ?

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Reply #11 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:01pm

No not diverted at all - I'm sticking to this issue - what does He Man consider as evidence. But He Man doesn't seem to want to answer.

Now I know you feel compelled at the moment to respond to me 5 seconds after I post, so I'll be eagerly awaiting an actual answer to the question. It will be interesting in view of the fact that there is not a single historian who wouldn't laugh the idea that there is "not a shred of evidence" that Muhammad existed out of court. But who knows, maybe He Man knows better than everyone else? Clearly He Man has a different understanding of what "evidence" means to every other human being on earth - so you can understand my interest. But will he explain??

What does He Man consider "evidence" to be?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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He Man Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1159 Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #12 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:13pm If you want to stick to the conversation I'll accept your answer to me first instead of diverting to another question ? I'll eagerly wait your response if you don't mind ?
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Reply #13 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:15pm

"view of the fact that there is not a single historian who wouldn't laugh the idea that there is "not a shred of evidence" that Muhammad existed out of court"

What evidence are you talking about then ?

I have searched and there is nothing until 60 years after this man was supposed to have even existed then died.

Those so called historians must be hilarious. Where do these historians come from ? Mecca ? Grin

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Reply #14 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:54pm

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:15pm:

I have searched and there is nothing until 60 years after this man was supposed to have even existed then died.

Right, so what you mean is there is no contemporary surviving evidence that he existed.

That is not the same as saying there is no evidence.

And by the way, the sources mentioning him begin from 2 and a half years after his death - not 60.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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