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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #30 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:53pm He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:49pm: Hilarious, everyone including other countries all orally orated just for that time period. ROFL bloody hilarious. Got anything at all seriously ? Do you concede you were wrong about contemporary sources for Jesus?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35565 Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #31 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:54pm polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:52pm: What counts as acceptable "verifiable" evidence in your view? Its not a difficult question surely. Anything that validates his misunderstanding and prejudice.
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Reply #32 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:54pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:52pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:32pm:

Still nothing Roll Eyes

Keep searching surely it cannot be this hard...

Can you at least explain how a reference to the Syrian Gospel codex is not evidence? Are you saying this fragment doesn't really exist or that the fragment is somehow not evidence?

What counts as acceptable "verifiable" evidence in your view? Its not a difficult question surely.

Where does it mention mohammed do tell the good readers here mate.

Not even a nice try just. Go read for yourself people how authentic this document mentions mohammed. Gawd. Roll Eyes

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He Man Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1159 Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #33 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:56pm mothra wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:54pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:52pm: What counts as acceptable "verifiable" evidence in your view? Its not a difficult question surely. Anything that validates his misunderstanding and prejudice. Get lost troll adults are talking.
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Reply #34 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:57pm

Hilarious, everyone including other countries all orally orated just for that time period. ROFL bloody hilarious.

Got anything at all seriously ?

I mean bloody hell if you have to go to those hysterical lengths to justify your so called prophets existence there is nothing anyone can say to you to help remove the blinkers.

Lets move on the the quran, it was around in mohammeds day, or so the legend has it.

Got anything other than 60 years after his so called death about the qu'ran ?

Surely there is something, anything at all ?

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Reply #35 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:59pm

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:56pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:52pm:

What counts as acceptable "verifiable" evidence in your view? Its not a difficult question surely.

Anything that validates his misunderstanding and prejudice.

Get lost troll adults are talking.

Well there's Gandalf ...

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He Man Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1159 Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #36 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:02pm TROLL somewhere else dufus.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35565 Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #37 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:05pm He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:02pm: TROLL somewhere else dufus. Is that because you are already trolling here? Go on. Prove your not. You've done a bad job of it so far but you can lift your game. What constitutes proof for you He Man? It seems to be a difficult question for you so take your time.
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Reply #38 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:12pm

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:56pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:52pm:

What counts as acceptable "verifiable" evidence in your view? Its not a difficult question surely.

Anything that validates his misunderstanding and prejudice.

Get lost troll adults are talking.

Now now matty, you've done so well to stay in character up until now. We don't want another cranial meltdown do we?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #39 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:13pm He Man do you concede you were wrong about Jesus - and that just like Muhammad, there are no contemporary written sources about him?
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Reply #40 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:18pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:12pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:56pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:52pm:

What counts as acceptable "verifiable" evidence in your view? Its not a difficult question surely.

Anything that validates his misunderstanding and prejudice.

Get lost troll adults are talking.

Now now matty, you've done so well to stay in character up until now. We don't want another cranial meltdown do we?

Grow up, just because you are embarrassed about islam doesn't mean you need to resort to childishness. Hmm maybe it does.

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Reply #41 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:18pm

"In the case of Mohammed, Muslim literary sources for his life only begin around 750-800 CE (common era), some four to five generations after his death, and few Islamicists (specialists in the history and study of Islam) these days assume them to be straightforward historical accounts. For all that, we probably know more about Mohammed than we do about Jesus (let alone Moses or the Buddha), and we certainly have the potential to know a great deal more.

There is no doubt that Mohammed existed, occasional attempts to deny it notwithstanding. His neighbours in Byzantine Syria got to hear of him within two years of his death at the latest; a Greek text written during the Arab invasion of Syria between 632 and 634 mentions that "a false prophet has appeared among the Saracens" and dismisses him as an impostor on the ground that prophets do not come "with sword and chariot". It thus conveys the impression that he was actually leading the invasions."

https://www.opendemocracy.net/faith-europe_islam/mohammed_3866.jsp

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Reply #42 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:19pm

mothra wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:05pm:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:02pm:

TROLL somewhere else dufus.

Is that because you are already trolling here?

Go on. Prove your not. You've done a bad job of it so far but you can lift your game.

What constitutes proof for you He Man? It seems to be a difficult question for you so take your time.

Take a bex and have a lie down troll.

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Reply #43 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:25pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:13pm:

He Man do you concede you were wrong about Jesus - and that just like Muhammad, there are no contemporary written sources about him?

Why the need for contemporary bud. There are multiple sources that document the Christians and Jesus and non Christian. You know ones that were actually around in the same time period. Have a google.

Not 60 years after his magical existence like mohammed.

So back to where we were, you still have not one piece of evidence that mohammed actually existed before 60 years after his death. We agree on that obviously else we would have links flying everywhere on it.

I believed we moved onto the claim the qu'ran was supposed to have existed around mohammeds day as well. Surely this should be an easy one.

Got anything on the qu'ran since mohammed was so hard to find info about ?

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Reply #44 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:26pm

He Man, stay focused - do you concede you were wrong to say that unlike Muhammad, there are contemporary accounts of Jesus?

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:18pm:

Grow up, just because you are embarrassed about islam doesn't mean you need to resort to childishness.

hmmm is childishness like telling people to "get lost" and calling them "dufus"?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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