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He Man Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1159 Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #75 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:50pm NADA ZIP
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #76 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:54pm I think this is matty finally giving up. Only took about 6 hours.
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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 96474	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #77 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:56pm polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:54pm: I think this is matty finally giving up. Only took about 6 hours. Good. Now he can crash the board.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #78 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:02pm I must admit, seeing someone so brazenly and dismissively brush over such embarrassingly bad mistakes - and push on so enthusiastically undeterred, is impressive. Awe inspiring even.
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He Man Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1159 Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #79 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:09pm polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:54pm: I think this is matty finally giving up. Only took about 6 hours. No worries karnal.
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Reply #80 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:02pm:

I must admit, seeing someone so brazenly and dismissively brush over such embarrassingly bad mistakes - and push on so enthusiastically undeterred, is impressive. Awe inspiring even.

Nah I used to sit here and watch Freediver tug your chain and watch you squirm and thought well its raining outside lets put some basic facts in front of a muslim, that should be a hoot and I did.

Freediver enjoys it more clearly I usually don't engage muslims as this is always the result. It always gets nasty when facts get in the way of their beliefs.

Oh well, back to it.

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Reply #81 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:13pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:19pm:

Lets pause for a score check:

number of He Man's idiotic claims that have been exposed so far:

1. There is no known evidence of Muhammad existing that is less than 60 years after his death

Nope

2. The Syrian fragment contains no mention of Muhammad by name

Nope no prophet Mohammed from Islam

3. The Syrian fragment is actually the Doctrina Jacobi

No dramas there I'll give you 1 point but you lost it in the next breath when you said thanks then realized mohammed would have been dead when leading those armies Grin

4. The Doctrina Jacobi, mentioning a false prophet leading the saracens around the time of Muhammad, somehow isn't evidence of Muhammad's existence

The dates had him dead at the Time my point

5. unlike Muhammad, there is contemporary evidence supporting the existence of Jesus

We werent discussing Jesus.

Anything else?

6. The 2 medina verses were still not quoted

7. Diverted to anything but the medina verses

8. Has no proof the prophet of islam mohammed actually existed less than 60 years after his pretend death except some broken manuscript that mentions a guy called mohammed. Gee I wonder how many mohammeds there are in the middle east. Roll Eyes

9. Can provide no information on the existence of the quran in mohammeds day.

Me = 8
You 1 - 1 = 0

Are we there yet ?

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Reply #82 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 3:15am

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:13pm:

Has no proof the prophet of islam mohammed actually existed less than 60 years after his pretend death except some broken manuscript that mentions a guy called mohammed.

Still confused about the difference between proof and evidence I see.

There is no proof, no one ever said there was.

broken manuscript that mentions a guy called mohammad = evidence for the existence of Muhammad. I'm sorry thats too embarrassing for you.

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Reply #83 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 4:02am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 3:15am:

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:13pm:

Has no proof the prophet of islam mohammed actually existed less than 60 years after his pretend death except some broken manuscript that mentions a guy called mohammed.

Still confused about the difference between proof and evidence I see.

There is no proof, no one ever said there was.

broken manuscript that mentions a guy called mohammad = evidence for the existence of Muhammad. I'm sorry thats too embarrassing for you.

I said there was no proof mohammed the so called prophet of islam existed less than 60 years after his death. The embarrassing thing is all you produced was a broken manuscript that referred to some guy with the same name and said it was him.

Gee I wonder how many mohammeds in the middle east there are.

It must be embarrassing to have no proof this twat mohammed you babble on about day and night even exists. All the time and efart you put into babbling on about him and bam you can't even prove he existed until 60 years after his pretend death. Roll Eyes

I am amazed that you dedicate your whole life to this myth really, what a huge waste. Not only that you freely admit you have your own version of islam. Why bother.

Get a grip on reality ... Pull the other one it plays Jingle Bells son. Grin

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Reply #84 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:51am

He Man wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:25pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:13pm:

He Man do you concede you were wrong about Jesus - and that just like Muhammad, there are no contemporary written sources about him?

Why the need for contemporary bud. There are multiple sources that document the Christians and Jesus and non Christian. You know ones that were actually around in the same time period. Have a google.

Not 60 years after his magical existence like mohammed.

So back to where we were, you still have not one piece of evidence that mohammed actually existed before 60 years after his death. We agree on that obviously else we would have links flying everywhere on it.

I believed we moved onto the claim the qu'ran was supposed to have existed around mohammeds day as well. Surely this should be an easy one.

Got anything on the qu'ran since mohammed was so hard to find info about ?

Utter rubbish. Look up some of those "contemporary" texts regarding Jesus...

The "Jesus" story was all recorded (and exaggerated) after his Crucifixion.. In FACT - the same litmus test for authenticity can be applied to both figures academically (which is entirely different to spiritually...) - generally, scholars accept that both figures existed historically - now the stuff that has been written up, exaggerated and just made up about them - well that has become the object of "faith"...

In short, you're on a slippery slope argument there...

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #85 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:51am He Man wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 4:02am: I said there was no proof mohammed the so called prophet of islam existed less than 60 years after his death. uh no, you said no "shred of evidence". Big difference.
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Reply #86 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:17pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:51am:

He Man wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 4:02am:

I said there was no proof mohammed the so called prophet of islam existed less than 60 years after his death.

uh no, you said no "shred of evidence". Big difference.

Every ancient document that mentions a mohammed in the past is proof that it was mohammed that made up islam and he actually existed. Not one document however mentions a muslim, islam or the qu'ran until 60 years after fictitious mohammeds pretend death. Grin

I wonder how many mohammeds there were in the middle east.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: In the case of deletings Reply #87 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:14pm He Man wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:17pm: Every ancient document that mentions a mohammed in the past is proof that it was mohammed that made up islam and he actually existed. Evidence, He Man, it is evidence. "proofs" don't exist in history.
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Reply #88 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:14pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:17pm:

Every ancient document that mentions a mohammed in the past is proof that it was mohammed that made up islam and he actually existed.

Evidence, He Man, it is evidence.

"proofs" don't exist in history.

Your evidence has nothing to do with mohammed the fictional character of islam.

Wink

Please show us some evidence Mohammed the fictional character of the islam story actually existed.

Got anything ? Anything at all ?

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Reply #89 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:36pm

A document mentioning the Arabs of Muhammad conquering Syria at the time we know they were conquering Syria is evidence for the existence of the historical Muhammad, founder of Islam.

As is a document mentioning a "false prophet" leading the Saracens (common term for muslim) in conquest - at almost the same time we know Muhammad was expanding his empire.

This is obvious to anyone with half a brain.

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