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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #90 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:51am

Lowering The Voting Age To 16

As stated before I don't care either way

Given the option I would vote no leave it where it is, I don't think it would make much if any difference to election outcomes and we should not be making changes for that reason anyway.

I doubt that the vast majority of 16 year olds would want to vote or are ready for the responsibility. I know that I struggled with the concept as an unprepared 18 year old.

The only advantage could be that a civics course to prepare young people to vote in a voting year may be of benefit if it were carried out in a honest manner.

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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #91 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:01am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:51am:

Lowering The Voting Age To 16

As stated before I don't care either way

Given the option I would vote no leave it where it is, I don't think it would make much if any difference to election outcomes and we should not be making changes for that reason anyway.

I doubt that the vast majority of 16 year olds would want to vote or are ready for the responsibility. I know that I struggled with the concept as an unprepared 18 year old.

The only advantage could be that a civics course to prepare young people to vote in a voting year may be of benefit if it were carried out in a honest manner.

Where schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism, what is the chance of that?

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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #92 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:17am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:51am:

Lowering The Voting Age To 16

As stated before I don't care either way

Given the option I would vote no leave it where it is, I don't think it would make much if any difference to election outcomes and we should not be making changes for that reason anyway.

I doubt that the vast majority of 16 year olds would want to vote or are ready for the responsibility. I know that I struggled with the concept as an unprepared 18 year old.

The only advantage could be that a civics course to prepare young people to vote in a voting year may be of benefit if it were carried out in a honest manner.

Where

schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism

, what is the chance of that?

What a load of unmitigated crap!

Where DO you pull these stupid claims from?

Your ass?

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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16 Reply #93 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:18am Young people don't vote for Libs (Because the Libs have policies that outright show they despise youth) makes them left wing radical communist fifth column insurgents.
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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #94 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:23am

Kat wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:17am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:01am:

Where

schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism

, what is the chance of that?

What a load of unmitigated crap!

Where DO you pull these stupid claims from?

Your ass?

That is his opinion

lets see him/her prove that schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism

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Opinions are like arseholes everyone got one.

It doesn't mean that your opinion or my opinion is right

See my post in the welcome thread reply #575 and you will know what I am like

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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16 Reply #95 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:25am Well to be fair, the Socialist Alternative exist only on Uni campuses (but are despised by 98% of people including most Socialists ) I'm a dirty red and bugger the SAlt.
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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #96 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 9:00am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:33am:

Only an ignorant dummy would think 'age of consent' is just a single age in all circumstances. I forget sometimes that I need to literally spoon feed you all the details on this or any other topic since you are so appallingly ignorant of the details.

only an idiot would, when asked the rule, quote the exception to the general rule rather than quote the general rule that applies to most cases.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75217 Gender:	Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16 Reply #97 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 9:00am Labor voter wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:23am: lets see him/her prove that schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism you might be waiting a while .. Maria likes making dumb comments that she then runs away from
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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #98 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 9:04am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:51am:

Lowering The Voting Age To 16

As stated before I don't care either way

Given the option I would vote no leave it where it is, I don't think it would make much if any difference to election outcomes and we should not be making changes for that reason anyway.

I doubt that the vast majority of 16 year olds would want to vote or are ready for the responsibility. I know that I struggled with the concept as an unprepared 18 year old.

The only advantage could be that a civics course to prepare young people to vote in a voting year may be of benefit if it were carried out in a honest manner.

Where schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism, what is the chance of that?

Yes the expected dubious claims of bias.

It would very much depend on who gave the training. I would think a balanced curricular set out in an unbiased manner would do the trick however logically the training could be managed by teachers from the History area which may suggest bias or the economics stream which would put bias in the other direction. Maybe even an external neutral training source could be engaged.

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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #99 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 9:06am

Labor voter wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:23am:

Kat wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:17am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:01am:

Where

schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism

, what is the chance of that?

What a load of unmitigated crap!

Where DO you pull these stupid claims from?

Your ass?

That is his opinion

lets see him/her prove that schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism

Longies style is that you have to prove his her its opinion wrong Roll Eyes

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59372 Here Gender:	Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16 Reply #100 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 9:06am What has the age of consent got to do with anything ? Everyone is old enough to be F**ked by government.
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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #101 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:22pm

Kat wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:17am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:51am:

Lowering The Voting Age To 16

As stated before I don't care either way

Given the option I would vote no leave it where it is, I don't think it would make much if any difference to election outcomes and we should not be making changes for that reason anyway.

I doubt that the vast majority of 16 year olds would want to vote or are ready for the responsibility. I know that I struggled with the concept as an unprepared 18 year old.

The only advantage could be that a civics course to prepare young people to vote in a voting year may be of benefit if it were carried out in a honest manner.

Where

schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism

, what is the chance of that?

What a load of unmitigated crap!

Where DO you pull these stupid claims from?

Your ass?

The fact you disagree is part of the evidence that it is true.

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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #102 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:23pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 9:04am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 6:51am:

Lowering The Voting Age To 16

As stated before I don't care either way

Given the option I would vote no leave it where it is, I don't think it would make much if any difference to election outcomes and we should not be making changes for that reason anyway.

I doubt that the vast majority of 16 year olds would want to vote or are ready for the responsibility. I know that I struggled with the concept as an unprepared 18 year old.

The only advantage could be that a civics course to prepare young people to vote in a voting year may be of benefit if it were carried out in a honest manner.

Where schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism, what is the chance of that?

Yes the expected dubious claims of bias.

It would very much depend on who gave the training. I would think a balanced curricular set out in an unbiased manner would do the trick however logically the training could be managed by teachers from the History area which may suggest bias or the economics stream which would put bias in the other direction. Maybe even an external neutral training source could be engaged.

Or maybe avoid the problem entirely by leaving it at 18 as it is already.

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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #103 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:33pm

Not fair to leave it at 18.

Quickly aging population + Boomers already dominating the polls means youth have little to no representation in Government.

The fact that Governance is so clearly skewed to pandering to Boomers and f**king Gen Y and Millennials shows there needs to be voting reform.

Lib voters/boomers only are opposed to this reform because it hinders the absolute boomer/late "Howards Battlers" Gen X dominance of voting demographics.

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Re: Lowering The Voting Age To 16
Reply #104 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:38pm

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:33pm:

Not fair to leave it at 18.

Quickly aging population + Boomers already dominating the polls means youth have little to no representation in Government.

The fact that Governance is so clearly skewed to pandering to Boomers and f**king Gen Y and Millennials shows there needs to be voting reform.

Lib voters/boomers only are opposed to this reform because it hinders the absolute boomer/late "Howards Battlers" Gen X dominance of voting demographics.

You will get to vote when you turn 18

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