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Lowering The Voting Age To 16 (Read 11865 times)
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Reply #105 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 12:48pm
 
I don't feel 16 year olds are mature enough to vote but what do I know? In the USA nonexistent people and the dead vote Democrat in every national  election.
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Reply #106 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 12:49pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 12:33pm:
Not fair to leave it at 18.

Quickly aging population + Boomers already dominating the polls means youth have little to no representation in Government.

The fact that Governance is so clearly skewed to pandering to Boomers and f**king Gen Y and Millennials shows there needs to be voting reform.

Lib voters/boomers only are opposed to this reform because it hinders the absolute boomer/late "Howards Battlers" Gen X dominance of voting demographics.


And you opposition to this is nothing more than your hatred of boomers and pretty much everyone else. Why not drop the voting age to 5 years old?
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Reply #107 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:00pm
 
Nice hyperbole response there Maria.

None of you have been able to articulately give a single reason why a 16 year old shouldn't be allowed to register and vote. 16 year olds are working, they are being taxed, its their future being carved up by Boomers/Late Gen X. Why shouldn't 16 year olds be allowed to vote? Oh right, because Liberals do absolutely zero for a youth vote, they actively use the youth as a punching bag for the vast majority of their "Tough on bludgers" reforms and the youth are the ones that are almost always on the receiving end of first cuts.

Again, elections are massively skewed to the boomer/Late Gen X demographic already, the youth vote needs reform to allow young people to have a voice. I would argue in fact there has been very little in budgets from Labor and Liberal that do much for anyone <30.

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your hatred of boomers and pretty much everyone else.


Oh because Boomers totally don't deserve the ire of younger generations.

Voting against climate change reform, ripping off the tax system for decades, skyrocketing housing prices, destruction of infrastructure, numerous budgets of boomer vote buying?

There's a reason Boomers are known across the western world as "The Selfish Generation".

And like you Maria of all people can talk of "hatred of everyone" when you specifically view everyone "below you" as subhuman. I honestly don't think I've been in contact with a more genuine fascist than you.
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Reply #108 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:04pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:00pm:
16 year olds are working,



How many?
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Reply #109 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:06pm
 
Old enough to work, old enough to vote. Doesn't matter how many.

Again, I fail to see any legitimate arguments against moving the age down to 16. Teens today are quite politically informed.

Also Teens who don't want to vote DON'T HAVE TO VOTE, everyone has the freedom to register when they wish.
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Reply #110 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:07pm
 
Grin GrinWHAT A CROCK OF CRAPP

But it wont be long and you mother and father will be dead along with your grand parents so you inherit the lot  Angry Angry What a plucking shame
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Reply #111 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:11pm
 
I have literally no idea what you are sh*tposting about.
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Reply #112 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:14pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:06pm:
Old enough to work, old enough to vote. Doesn't matter how many.

Again, I fail to see any legitimate arguments against moving the age down to 16. Teens today are quite politically informed.

Also Teens who don't want to vote DON'T HAVE TO VOTE, everyone has the freedom to register when they wish.



So when I worked and paid taxes at 15 I should have been allowed to vote, based on my tax status rather than my age and maturity?

How young is too young?


I agree that anyone not just teens, should be allowed to not vote; because that is what a right is; being forced to enrol and subsequently head to the polling booth is a joke, not a right.




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Reply #113 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:17pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:11pm:
I have literally no idea what you are sh*tposting about.


That's easy to see! Angry
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Reply #114 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 1:21pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 8:01am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:51am:
Lowering The Voting Age To 16

As stated before I don't care either way

Given the option I would vote no leave it where it is, I don't think it would make much if any difference to election outcomes and we should not be making changes for that reason anyway.

I doubt that the vast majority of 16 year olds would want to vote or are ready for the responsibility. I know that I struggled with the concept as an unprepared 18 year old.

The only advantage could be that a civics course to prepare young people to vote in a voting year may be of benefit if it were carried out in a honest manner.


Where schools (public at least) are hotbeds of left-wing activism, what is the chance of that?


80% or more of students could not tell you who the treasurer is or quote a single policy except maybe stop the boats.

The average person would just shake their head at your opinion on this one.
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Reply #115 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 2:01pm
 
Not true at all, I engage with teenagers alot through work and social groups, they are very politically informed.

If you want to get rid of voting based on being politically informed, then 80% of people wouldn't be allowed to vote.

Also again a 16 year old would have to register to vote, so only the politically willing would register.

Again, I see no real legitimate arguments against this, there are also no solutions to Boomer dominance in the polls with a rapidly ageing population. 16 year olds should be allowed to vote on the sole grounds that youth representation is almost non-existent in Politics. Why should the future be decided by Boomers who only care to line their own pockets with investment properties from their super?
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Reply #116 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 2:04pm
 
Also a lot of the legislation effects young people, but youth have little to no say. It will be the 16 year olds today burdened with Uni deregluation, why are they not allowed a voice? Why should boomers have a single smacking say on Uni deregulation when Boomers were shepherded though Uni for free?
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Reply #117 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 2:09pm
 
So should they be able to sign contracts?
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Reply #118 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 2:21pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 2:09pm:
So should they be able to sign contracts?



They can quite happily sign employment contracts so why not?
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Reply #119 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 2:25pm
 
Ughh - this poo again.  We need to more selective about who gets a vote, not less. 

If we wanted our country to function well, we should drop the following groups from the electoral eligibility:

retards
People over 85
People under 25
Those who own no land
Those who pay no tax, or tax under a certain threshold
Prisoners

But the powers that be will never let this happen - the more chaff there is on the electoral roll, the less they are held to account, and the harder it is for intelligent, discerning people to right the ship when it founders.
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