mothra wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 2:21pm:


With or without parent/guardian approval?

... wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 2:25pm:


The 19th century called 

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 2:01pm:



how about DRINKING  in a pub at 16...

driving a CAR at 16....

going to WAR at 16......

getting MARRIED at 16...

getting a MORTGAGE at 16...

just even taking responsibility for their own actions even





I seem to remember a young Lib winning a seat in  Parliament I think he was 20 and the sneering from the  left was HUGE.

cods wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 2:48pm:


Drinking age has nothing to do with voting, you can vote before you can drink in the US.

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You can do that (again what does this have to do with voting)

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Many 16 year olds are independent, my SO was out of home by 15.

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Because he is a Young Liberal shithead who engaged in very legally dubious actions, not because he was 20.

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 3:21pm:



'AGE RANGE FOR RECRUITMENT
You can join the ADF at 17 but start your application earlier if you wish.

To apply for a career in the Navy, Army or Air Force you must be at least 16 years and 6 months old, though you can start thinking about a career in the ADF much earlier (see below).

The maximum age for recruitment varies greatly by role, and you'll find details in each individual job description on the Defence Jobs website. As a general rule you can join the ADF if you are between three and six years away from the Compulsory Retiring Age for a specific role.

RECRUITMENT OF MINORS
At this age you are a 'minor' so special conditions apply.

Your application must be voluntary, approved in writing by your parent or guardian, and accompanied by an original or certified copy of your full birth certificate.

The ADF abides by the spirit and intent of the Optional Protocol on the Rights of the Child on Involvement of Children in Armed Conflict. That means we will take all feasible measures to ensure that minors do not participate in hostilities; however there will be times when they may have to.'

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitment-centre/can-i-join/age-gender/

lee wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 3:31pm:

Okay wrong, but why does that matter anyway?

Again nothing you people are voting explains why 16 year olds should not have their voice heard (and again, I interact with young people all the time who are far more politically informed than the vast majority of adults I know) and none of you have proposed any solution to the boomer dominance of the polls and an aging population.

16 year olds should be given the choice to sign up and vote if they wish.

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 3:46pm:



Same reason why 14 yr olds can't because, they're idiots.

Sh1t, 400 000 18 yr old didn't vote or enrol in the last election, why are 16 yr old so politically switched on and 18 yr olds are not?

The answer is they are not and once again, we don't change the law based on your personal experience or we would be in a very f...ked up place.

If we allowed people to vote on knowledge of politics, again the vast majority wouldn't be able to vote.

16 year old voting serves several things, it gets more young people to enroll, it improves demographic size for the youth vote and people are probably more likely to vote at 18-19 if they've had the choice since 16.

Either way I'm absolutely sick to death of Politics being a game of pandering to boomers or 30+ year olds with families. I'm just shy off 30 and like I have said, there is very little in budgets Gen Y.

The way the system is set up, someone 25 has nowhere near the representation of someone thats 65, how is that fair? Do you think they would have dared had a "6 month no welfare period" for people at 50-70? Dear god no because that would lose you an election instantly, yet apparently those 26 and under are subhuman or something and can just magically survive on nothing.

We have had several budgets from Labor and Liberal that have punished the youth simply because they are not a large voting demographic. Young people are the punching bag of the major parties.

Also another point on young not voting, why would the youth vote when no major parties appeal to them? There is massive dissatisfaction with the major parties with young people, this doesn't mean they aren't politically aware. Hell some of the post politically aware people I know to the point they have political youtube channels don't vote on principle for not supporting the system.