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Reply #15 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:49am

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In what critics say is the latest evidence of the government's determination to control information about its immigration detention program, aid agencies including Save the Children and the Australian Red Cross were asked to offer "performance security" – in one case, of $2 million – during negotiations over contracts relating to work caring for asylum seekers and refugees.

It came as the non-profit organisations were also being asked to agree to clauses that would prevent them speaking to the media without government approval.

For the stupid leftards I've highlighted the relevant word. CONTRACT

Charities nowadays also operate like a business. They sign commercial contracts with governments all the time

It is common for contracting parties to ask for a bond. This is nothing new

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75162 Gender:	Re: Buying Silence? - Charities Asked To Pay Bonds Reply #16 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:55am The issue is not the contracts or even the bond ... it's that the govt' blackmails them with threat of keeping the bond if they are critical of the govt. to the media. Governments should be open and transparent. What's next for the libs? Jail anyone who stands against them at the next election?
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Reply #17 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:11am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:57am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 8:42am:

This govt. doesn't care how low it goes. Anything is acceptable as long as they aren't held to account. The sooner we get rid of these fascist dickheads the better.

Just fixing up Labor's mess.

No, hiding their own mess, created by the two conservative Parties, the Lib/Green alliance blocking the Malaysia Processing Centre.

These gag orders started under Howard, typical of the little sh1t.

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Reply #18 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:10pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:55am:

The issue is not the contracts or even the bond ... it's that the govt' blackmails them with threat of keeping the bond if they are critical of the govt. to the media.

Governments should be open and transparent.

What's next for the libs? Jail anyone who stands against them at the next election?

Read the article

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59325 Here Gender:	Re: Buying Silence? - Charities Asked To Pay Bonds Reply #19 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:12pm Swagman wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:01am: What bull schitt. Performance guarantees are pretty much standard operating procedure for non-government organisations in receipt of tax-payer funding. The funding is NOT for political activism. It is also not for covering up political wrong doing.
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Reply #20 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:37pm

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:49am:

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In what critics say is the latest evidence of the government's determination to control information about its immigration detention program, aid agencies including Save the Children and the Australian Red Cross were asked to offer "performance security" – in one case, of $2 million – during negotiations over contracts relating to work caring for asylum seekers and refugees.

It came as the non-profit organisations were also being asked to agree to clauses that would prevent them speaking to the media without government approval.

For the stupid leftards I've highlighted the relevant word. CONTRACT

Charities nowadays also operate like a business. They sign commercial contracts with governments all the time

It is common for contracting parties to ask for a bond. This is nothing new

I have highlighted the relevant words that you have overlooked: control information. This determination to suppress information is what we would expect in Iran, or the USSR, or North Korea - not a democratic country like Australia.

WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

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Reply #21 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:52pm

Bam wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:49am:

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In what critics say is the latest evidence of the government's determination to control information about its immigration detention program, aid agencies including Save the Children and the Australian Red Cross were asked to offer "performance security" – in one case, of $2 million – during negotiations over contracts relating to work caring for asylum seekers and refugees.

It came as the non-profit organisations were also being asked to agree to clauses that would prevent them speaking to the media without government approval.

For the stupid leftards I've highlighted the relevant word. CONTRACT

Charities nowadays also operate like a business. They sign commercial contracts with governments all the time

It is common for contracting parties to ask for a bond. This is nothing new

I have highlighted the relevant words that you have overlooked: control information. This determination to suppress information is what we would expect in Iran, or the USSR, or North Korea - not a democratic country like Australia.

WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

Its a commercial contract

In democratic countries like Australia have what we call as "Commercial in Confidence" whereas in countries like Iran, USSR and North Korea you can buy it if you have enough money

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Reply #22 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:51pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:33am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:17am:

Bam wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:46am:

When Labor get in again, it's likely that they will start a Royal Commission into this government's heavy-handed treatment of refugees. The revelations of this Royal Commission will keep the Liberals out of office for a generation.

They have to get into office first and the Union RC will ensure the ALP are out of office for a generation.

the what? ohh, is that still going? .. it's gone awfully quiet lately. I thought turncoat had axed it. Cheesy

The court cases and criminal convictions will keep it nice and fresh in peoples minds for a long time to come.

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Reply #23 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:06pm

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:52pm:

Bam wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:49am:

Quote:

In what critics say is the latest evidence of the government's determination to control information about its immigration detention program, aid agencies including Save the Children and the Australian Red Cross were asked to offer "performance security" – in one case, of $2 million – during negotiations over contracts relating to work caring for asylum seekers and refugees.

It came as the non-profit organisations were also being asked to agree to clauses that would prevent them speaking to the media without government approval.

For the stupid leftards I've highlighted the relevant word. CONTRACT

Charities nowadays also operate like a business. They sign commercial contracts with governments all the time

It is common for contracting parties to ask for a bond. This is nothing new

I have highlighted the relevant words that you have overlooked: control information. This determination to suppress information is what we would expect in Iran, or the USSR, or North Korea - not a democratic country like Australia.

WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

Its a commercial contract

In democratic countries like Australia have what we call as "Commercial in Confidence" whereas in countries like Iran, USSR and North Korea you can buy it if you have enough money

It is a contract that you are supporting designed to conceal criminal activity like child abuse and rape. You should be very proud of yourself and the A wipes you choose to support.

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Reply #24 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:06pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:52pm:

Bam wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:49am:

Quote:

In what critics say is the latest evidence of the government's determination to control information about its immigration detention program, aid agencies including Save the Children and the Australian Red Cross were asked to offer "performance security" – in one case, of $2 million – during negotiations over contracts relating to work caring for asylum seekers and refugees.

It came as the non-profit organisations were also being asked to agree to clauses that would prevent them speaking to the media without government approval.

For the stupid leftards I've highlighted the relevant word. CONTRACT

Charities nowadays also operate like a business. They sign commercial contracts with governments all the time

It is common for contracting parties to ask for a bond. This is nothing new

I have highlighted the relevant words that you have overlooked: control information. This determination to suppress information is what we would expect in Iran, or the USSR, or North Korea - not a democratic country like Australia.

WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

Its a commercial contract

In democratic countries like Australia have what we call as "Commercial in Confidence" whereas in countries like Iran, USSR and North Korea you can buy it if you have enough money

It is a contract that you are supporting designed to conceal criminal activity like child abuse and rape. You should be very proud of yourself and the A wipes you choose to support.

'conceal'... and you think that is somehow worse than the ALP and its legions of ACTUAL kiddy-fiddlers?

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Reply #25 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:48pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 3:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:33am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:17am:

Bam wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 9:46am:

When Labor get in again, it's likely that they will start a Royal Commission into this government's heavy-handed treatment of refugees. The revelations of this Royal Commission will keep the Liberals out of office for a generation.

They have to get into office first and the Union RC will ensure the ALP are out of office for a generation.

the what? ohh, is that still going? .. it's gone awfully quiet lately. I thought turncoat had axed it. Cheesy

The court cases and criminal convictions will keep it nice and fresh in peoples minds for a long time to come.

really?

that's why they're being thrown out before they even get to court.

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Reply #26 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:49pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:06pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:52pm:

Bam wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:49am:

Quote:

In what critics say is the latest evidence of the government's determination to control information about its immigration detention program, aid agencies including Save the Children and the Australian Red Cross were asked to offer "performance security" – in one case, of $2 million – during negotiations over contracts relating to work caring for asylum seekers and refugees.

It came as the non-profit organisations were also being asked to agree to clauses that would prevent them speaking to the media without government approval.

For the stupid leftards I've highlighted the relevant word. CONTRACT

Charities nowadays also operate like a business. They sign commercial contracts with governments all the time

It is common for contracting parties to ask for a bond. This is nothing new

I have highlighted the relevant words that you have overlooked: control information. This determination to suppress information is what we would expect in Iran, or the USSR, or North Korea - not a democratic country like Australia.

WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

Its a commercial contract

In democratic countries like Australia have what we call as "Commercial in Confidence" whereas in countries like Iran, USSR and North Korea you can buy it if you have enough money

It is a contract that you are supporting designed to conceal criminal activity like child abuse and rape. You should be very proud of yourself and the A wipes you choose to support.

'conceal'... and you think that is somehow worse than the ALP and its legions of ACTUAL kiddy-fiddlers?

Doesn’t matter what the Libs do the RWNJs here will justify it. They don’t need brainwashing—no brain to be washed.

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Reply #27 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:49pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:06pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:52pm:

Bam wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:49am:

Quote:

In what critics say is the latest evidence of the government's determination to control information about its immigration detention program, aid agencies including Save the Children and the Australian Red Cross were asked to offer "performance security" – in one case, of $2 million – during negotiations over contracts relating to work caring for asylum seekers and refugees.

It came as the non-profit organisations were also being asked to agree to clauses that would prevent them speaking to the media without government approval.

For the stupid leftards I've highlighted the relevant word. CONTRACT

Charities nowadays also operate like a business. They sign commercial contracts with governments all the time

It is common for contracting parties to ask for a bond. This is nothing new

I have highlighted the relevant words that you have overlooked: control information. This determination to suppress information is what we would expect in Iran, or the USSR, or North Korea - not a democratic country like Australia.

WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

Its a commercial contract

In democratic countries like Australia have what we call as "Commercial in Confidence" whereas in countries like Iran, USSR and North Korea you can buy it if you have enough money

It is a contract that you are supporting designed to conceal criminal activity like child abuse and rape. You should be very proud of yourself and the A wipes you choose to support.

'conceal'... and you think that is somehow worse than the ALP and its legions of ACTUAL kiddy-fiddlers?

you smoking pot again? the only one defending kiddy fiddlers was your alter ego ... Cheesy

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Reply #28 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 5:48pm

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:52pm:

Bam wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:49am:

Quote:

In what critics say is the latest evidence of the government's determination to control information about its immigration detention program, aid agencies including Save the Children and the Australian Red Cross were asked to offer "performance security" – in one case, of $2 million – during negotiations over contracts relating to work caring for asylum seekers and refugees.

It came as the non-profit organisations were also being asked to agree to clauses that would prevent them speaking to the media without government approval.

For the stupid leftards I've highlighted the relevant word. CONTRACT

Charities nowadays also operate like a business. They sign commercial contracts with governments all the time

It is common for contracting parties to ask for a bond. This is nothing new

I have highlighted the relevant words that you have overlooked: control information. This determination to suppress information is what we would expect in Iran, or the USSR, or North Korea - not a democratic country like Australia.

WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

Its a commercial contract

In democratic countries like Australia have what we call as "Commercial in Confidence" whereas in countries like Iran, USSR and North Korea you can buy it if you have enough money

Since when have CHARITIES been subject to "commercial in confidence"?

For that matter, since when has "commercial in confidence" been required to protect the government rather than the business?

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Reply #29 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:36pm

Bam wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 5:48pm:

Since when have CHARITIES been subject to "commercial in confidence"?

For that matter, since when has "commercial in confidence" been required to protect the government rather than the business?

Since every time they sign commercial contracts

Charities are run like businesses - the only difference is in the tax treatment of their profits

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