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Question: Do you want to have a 15% GST?

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Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST
Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:25am
 
Secret plans drawn up to lift GST to 15 per cent with tax cuts on the table
November 1, 2015
Herald Sun

THE GST will rise to 15 per cent, middle-income earners will secure tax cuts and fresh food will remain GST-free under tax options being closely examined by the federal government.

Setting the scene for a tax battle at the next election, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is prepared to ask voters for a clear mandate on GST reform and tax cuts if his party room agrees, according to senior Liberals.

Despite describing the tax reform agenda as being in the “discovery phase’’, Treasury officials have worked for months on different options to increase the GST to 15 per cent.   Sad

The Sunday Telegraph has confirmed that four main GST reform options were canvassed by Treasury in proposals provided to senior ministers, including former prime minister Tony Abbott, earlier this year.

Treasury’s work on the ­reforms has operated continuously and is now being re-examined by the Turnbull government as it prepares for next year’s election.

Mr Turnbull and Treasurer Scott Morrison have ­argued all options are on the table during this “discovery’’ phase, including extending the GST to fresh food.   Sad


Lifting the GST to 15 per cent, while compensating households with incomes of up to $100,000, would raise $24.5 billion in extra taxes, but some argue it is not generous enough to also offer company tax cuts.

The increase to the GST would be designed to help fund a shortfall in health and education spending.


The National Centre for Social and Economic Modelling estimates the average household would face extra costs of $2915 a year under a 15 per cent GST.   Sad

One option discussed by officials would carve up the revenue from the GST hike between the states and the Commonwealth, providing a revenue stream to help fund GST compensation for pensioners and income tax cuts for low- and middle-income workers.

Some state premiers, ­including NSW’s Mike Baird and South Australia’s Jay Weatherill, have called for debate on a 15 per cent GST, while Victoria’s premier Dan Andrews remains opposed.

Mr Andrews has proposed increasing the Medicare levy.
Treasurer Scott Morrison said all options were on the table when discussing the GST.

Mr Baird and Mr Weatherill have previously signalled they would consider increasing the GST to 15 per cent in return for more money for the states and other trade-offs.

Mr Weatherill is opposed to putting the GST on fresh food but is open to extending it to some areas of health and pharmaceuticals.

Cabinet ministers stressed the discussions were in the “embryonic’’ stages and would require the support of cabinet, the party room and voters at the next election.

The Prime Minister would seek a clear mandate from voters for GST reform if the party and cabinet agrees to the election strategy, and any changes would need to be ­negotiated with the states.

Mr Morrison has highlighted the prospect of funding income tax cuts as one reason for GST reform.

“When you have the average wage earner in this country about to move into the ­second-highest tax bracket at $80,000 next year, you’ve got a problem with the incentives in your tax system,” he said.

Parents Alan and Jane Mawer, from Coogee, said there was little doubt a GST rise would make life more expensive.   Sad

“It depends on how it is packaged up,” Mr Mawer, 40, said. “Frankly, life would be a bit more expensive.

“We won’t be the most ­affected family, but it is concerning for our parents. What would the government do with the extra money?”.

THE GST CHOICES ON THE TABLE   Sad

Option A:

Increase GST from 10 per cent to 15 per cent with no exemptions which would broaden the base to include fresh food, health and education including private school fees

Option B:

Regarded by officials as a more likely option, was a 15 per cent GST that still exempts fresh food. This would increase the price of existing goods that already attract the GST, for example takeaway food, and other goods and services

Option C:

A 15 per cent GST that exempts food, health and education. This would deliver the status quo in terms of exemptions but increase the rate on existing goods that already attract the GST

Option D:

A 12.5 per cent GST. The smaller increase to the GST was regarded as an unlikely prospect by officials because it would fail to deliver enough revenue to provide for income tax cuts and cover the state’s funding shortfalls in health and education
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Reply #1 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:37am
 
They will increase the GST to 12.5% all this talk about 15% is designed to make us feel good about 12.5.

The target was never 15%, that is just an ambit claim put up because they think we are all stupid.
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Reply #2 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:52am
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:37am:
They will increase the GST to 12.5% all this talk about 15% is designed to make us feel good about 12.5.

The target was never 15%, that is just an ambit claim put up because they think we are all stupid.


I weep for you and your small expectations and ideas. I doubt you've ever had a large vision in your entire life.
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Reply #3 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:55am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:52am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:37am:
They will increase the GST to 12.5% all this talk about 15% is designed to make us feel good about 12.5.

The target was never 15%, that is just an ambit claim put up because they think we are all stupid.


I weep for you and your small expectations and ideas. I doubt you've ever had a large vision in your entire life.


WOW now a huge tax increase is a large vision - (insert abusive term questioning intelligence).


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Reply #4 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:06am
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:55am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:52am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:37am:
They will increase the GST to 12.5% all this talk about 15% is designed to make us feel good about 12.5.

The target was never 15%, that is just an ambit claim put up because they think we are all stupid.


I weep for you and your small expectations and ideas. I doubt you've ever had a large vision in your entire life.


WOW now a huge tax increase is a large vision - (insert abusive term questioning intelligence).






It is for the government that can't stop spending.

All that extra money to play with woohoo!!!! bring out the cigars and champagne.....oh how they laughed at us.

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Reply #5 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:33am
 
Look at Sweden or Norway - I can't remember which it is. They have free health care, free public transport, and so on. They also pay a lot more tax than us but don't mind because they get excellent services from their government for FREE. Can't see that happening here with your narrow "me, me, me, gimme, gimme, gimme" mindset.
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Reply #6 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:35am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:52am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:37am:
They will increase the GST to 12.5% all this talk about 15% is designed to make us feel good about 12.5.

The target was never 15%, that is just an ambit claim put up because they think we are all stupid.


I weep for you and your small expectations and ideas. I doubt you've ever had a large vision in your entire life.





This thread isn't about abusing other posters. It's about Liberals wanting to attack low income households across the country.

Now lets see if the Libs can break the mould and link their higher tax with a $50 a week rise in dole payments and pensions.
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Reply #7 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:43am
 
____ wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:35am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:52am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:37am:
They will increase the GST to 12.5% all this talk about 15% is designed to make us feel good about 12.5.

The target was never 15%, that is just an ambit claim put up because they think we are all stupid.


I weep for you and your small expectations and ideas. I doubt you've ever had a large vision in your entire life.





This thread isn't about abusing other posters. It's about Liberals wanting to attack low income households across the country.

Now lets see if the Libs can break the mould and link their higher tax with a $50 a week rise in dole payments and pensions.




$100 for the dolies and $50 for the pensioners, all types, but especially aged......mwah! next year for this little duck.
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Reply #8 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:45am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:33am:
Look at Sweden or Norway - I can't remember which it is. They have free health care, free public transport, and so on. They also pay a lot more tax than us but don't mind because they get excellent services from their government for FREE. Can't see that happening here with your narrow "me, me, me, gimme, gimme, gimme" mindset.



We keep paying more tax and they keep taking, taking, taking, giving stuff all.

It has to work both ways.
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Reply #9 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:56am
 
Increasing GST while the Australian dollar is in a death spiral is just obscene. Imports have already jumped in price 30-40% in the past year.
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Reply #10 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 8:03am
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:55am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:52am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:37am:
They will increase the GST to 12.5% all this talk about 15% is designed to make us feel good about 12.5.

The target was never 15%, that is just an ambit claim put up because they think we are all stupid.


I weep for you and your small expectations and ideas. I doubt you've ever had a large vision in your entire life.


WOW now a huge tax increase is a large vision - (insert abusive term questioning intelligence).





It is CHANGE - something you don't seem to be able to handle. It is a compensated-for tax increase but what you seem to struggle with is CHANGE.
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Reply #11 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 8:11am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 8:03am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:55am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:52am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 6:37am:
They will increase the GST to 12.5% all this talk about 15% is designed to make us feel good about 12.5.

The target was never 15%, that is just an ambit claim put up because they think we are all stupid.


I weep for you and your small expectations and ideas. I doubt you've ever had a large vision in your entire life.


WOW now a huge tax increase is a large vision - (insert abusive term questioning intelligence).





It is CHANGE - something you don't seem to be able to handle. It is a compensated-for tax increase but what you seem to struggle with is CHANGE.


Change is good IF it is a change for the better.

This isn't.
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Reply #12 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 8:22am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:33am:
Look at Sweden or Norway - I can't remember which it is. They have free health care, free public transport, and so on. They also pay a lot more tax than us but don't mind because they get excellent services from their government for FREE. Can't see that happening here with your narrow "me, me, me, gimme, gimme, gimme" mindset.


Look at the prices over there as well. In a land that sells cucumbers by the slice, there's not a bargain in sight.
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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.
 
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Reply #13 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 8:37am
 
Libs answer to stimulating some growth , jesus , what a failure  Cheesy
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Reply #14 - Nov 1st, 2015 at 9:10am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1st, 2015 at 7:33am:
Look at Sweden or Norway - I can't remember which it is. They have free health care, free public transport, and so on. They also pay a lot more tax than us but don't mind because they get excellent services from their government for FREE. Can't see that happening here with your narrow "me, me, me, gimme, gimme, gimme" mindset.

Sweden has just introduced a 30-hour work week. Think about it - they only have to work for 30 hours a week to earn enough tax to pay for all the government services.
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You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.
 
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