Dnarever wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2015 at 3:08pm:
Swagman wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2015 at 12:52pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2015 at 10:44am:
Swagman wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2015 at 9:24am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2015 at 6:32am:
By the way anyone worked out the difference in GST on your shopping bill if they remove food as an exemption ?
When I currently do a full family shop it can be $330 or so and I pay about $12 GST. This would increase to $33.
Finding an extra $30 to $50 for the average family can be a game changer for their budget and this is just for food. It is also an extra $20 or so on the electricity bill, the rates, gas, phone etc.
This makes the fixed carbon price look like a x'mas present.
I currently buy 2 litres of milk a day @about $3.
A GST of 45 cents per day is $3.15 a week - 12.60 a month and $160 a year and just a little less for bread.
A 15% GST on food would mean an extra $300 a year just for bread and milk for me.
You righties should look at these numbers across the board and work out what this really means for people. Time to put the dogma away and stop being silly.
Low income earners and the average family
benefit most
from ANY taxation. GST not excluded.
That $300 bucks would be returned in spades, even without any monetary compensation.
Look past your nose for a change....
WOW there is a bunch of silly
unsupportable statements.
The problem is that the $300 for bread and milk is probably about 0.2 % of the total cost to the average family.
Go feed your dogma, I think its gone crazy.
Unsupported huh?
Really? So you think that no Govt benefit payments or services are means tested or provided on a concession basis?
What is the social security / welfare / Health & education expenditure by all Governments in Australia?
Now ask yourself who benefits 'most' from these things? Everyone equally, or low income earners and the average family?
Every time Average people are disadvantaged you support it wheeling out the same old tired line of they get all the benefits.
Yes much of the benefits do go across the board. Many low income families do not get much if anything from the government and yet a mountain of government money is given to people who are doing really well.
Define 'much'.
Low income families pay virtually zero income tax and as a family they get paid FTB A & B, rent assistance, health care cards, public transport concessions. These 'benefits' are all paid predominantly from taxation. They are your 'much'.
Dnarever wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2015 at 3:08pm:
The bottom line is that improving education is not going to put food on a pensioners table or help someone unemployed in the short term.
Pension income is derived direct from taxation. Dole is derived direct from taxation. The more tax revenues the more Govt can pay for pensions and the dole.
Greater GST revenues might mean pensioners might get better access to hospital services. Unemployed might get the skills so they have more chance at work.
Wake up and smell the roses pal.
Dnarever wrote on Nov 3
rd, 2015 at 3:08pm:
Yes it is rubbish to continually claim that you can take it all away from the low paid because they get it all back anyway but you keep saying it.
I didn't say that at all. You need to see a good optometrist. You might find one that bulk bills if you're lucky......
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