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Question: Do you want to have a 15% GST?

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Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST (Read 19117 times)
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Reply #330 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 3:08pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 7:18am:
No need to raise/broaden the GST. Just get rid of all Howard’s spending still in the Budget. Wonder why that “lefty” Malodorous is not doing that? Maybe not so left after all?



And Labor had two following governments in which to do it, after Howard. But they only increased spending.

More crap from RWNJs.

Apart from the stimulus spending Labor spent LESS that the Lib govts that came before and after it.
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Reply #331 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:27pm
 
I just heard Dan Andrews back the GST on the news as well ...

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Reply #332 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:29pm
 
money is being wasted on middle class welfare...

the little man is carrying the load while these yuppies are bludging on them..
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Reply #333 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:32pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 3:08pm:
Apart from the stimulus spending Labor spent LESS that the Lib govts that came before and after it.



Like NDIS?
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Reply #334 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:38pm
 
'KEY INITIATIVES OF THE 2012–13 BUDGET

Spreading the benefits of the boom

    $1.8 billion to increase Family Tax Benefit Part A for all eligible families, commencing 1 July 2013
    $1.1 billion for a new Supplementary Allowance for the unemployed, students and parents with young children, on income support, with the first payment commencing March 2013
    In addition, an extra $2.1 billion over five years on a new Schoolkids Bonus, paid directly to eligible recipients

    From 1 July 2012, more than tripling the tax‑free threshold from $6,000 to $18,200, freeing up to 1 million Australians from the need to lodge a tax return'

http://www.budget.gov.au/2012-13/content/at_a_glance/html/at_a_glance.htm

Stimulus spending due to GFC? They're talking BOOM.

'The Government is returning the budget to surplus on time and as promised.'
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Reply #335 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:05pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 8:42am:
John Smith wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 8:32am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 8:10am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 5th, 2015 at 8:45pm:
I have paid $ millions in taxes -

mostly indirectly from all the GST I created.


I  top you. I paid hundreds of millions in GST in the job I once had.


I'm gonna bet that you paid farkall .



Like every other responses you make, you 'don't get it'.  Bobby was trying to claim credit for GST on products or services he was involved in as part of his employment. Seems only reasonable to do the same. The company I was in for 6 years had revenues over that time of several billion - therefore the GST was created by me.

It is the same logic how Michael Mann claims a Nobel Prize because he was an author with the IPCC who won a Nobel prize.



ohh I got it alright ... you claimed you paid GST, you didn't.

if you have no idea about the subject you are on about, say nothing. You won't look quite as stupid as you do now that way.
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Reply #336 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:23pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 3:06pm:
I have paid huge amounts of the fricking GST—out of my own pocket! It is a sh1t of a tax, it should be removed.



Look forward to paying even more tax under loser Turnbull.
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Reply #337 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:50pm
 
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Secret plans drawn up to lift GST to 15 per cent with tax cuts on the table
November 1, 2015
Herald Sun

THE GST will rise to 15 per cent, middle-income earners will secure tax cuts and fresh food will remain GST-free under tax options being closely examined by the federal government.

Setting the scene for a tax battle at the next election, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is prepared to ask voters for a clear mandate on GST reform and tax cuts if his party room agrees, according to senior Liberals.

Despite describing the tax reform agenda as being in the “discovery phase’’, Treasury officials have worked for months on different options to increase the GST to 15 per cent.   Sad

The Sunday Telegraph has confirmed that four main GST reform options were canvassed by Treasury in proposals provided to senior ministers, including former prime minister Tony Abbott, earlier this year.

Treasury’s work on the ­reforms has operated continuously and is now being re-examined by the Turnbull government as it prepares for next year’s election.

Mr Turnbull and Treasurer Scott Morrison have ­argued all options are on the table during this “discovery’’ phase, including extending the GST to fresh food.   Sad


Lifting the GST to 15 per cent, while compensating households with incomes of up to $100,000, would raise $24.5 billion in extra taxes, but some argue it is not generous enough to also offer company tax cuts.

The increase to the GST would be designed to help fund a shortfall in health and education spending.


The National Centre for Social and Economic Modelling estimates the average household would face extra costs of $2915 a year under a 15 per cent GST.   Sad

One option discussed by officials would carve up the revenue from the GST hike between the states and the Commonwealth, providing a revenue stream to help fund GST compensation for pensioners and income tax cuts for low- and middle-income workers.

Some state premiers, ­including NSW’s Mike Baird and South Australia’s Jay Weatherill, have called for debate on a 15 per cent GST, while Victoria’s premier Dan Andrews remains opposed.

Mr Andrews has proposed increasing the Medicare levy.
Treasurer Scott Morrison said all options were on the table when discussing the GST.

Mr Baird and Mr Weatherill have previously signalled they would consider increasing the GST to 15 per cent in return for more money for the states and other trade-offs.

Mr Weatherill is opposed to putting the GST on fresh food but is open to extending it to some areas of health and pharmaceuticals.

Cabinet ministers stressed the discussions were in the “embryonic’’ stages and would require the support of cabinet, the party room and voters at the next election.

The Prime Minister would seek a clear mandate from voters for GST reform if the party and cabinet agrees to the election strategy, and any changes would need to be ­negotiated with the states.

Mr Morrison has highlighted the prospect of funding income tax cuts as one reason for GST reform.

“When you have the average wage earner in this country about to move into the ­second-highest tax bracket at $80,000 next year, you’ve got a problem with the incentives in your tax system,” he said.

Parents Alan and Jane Mawer, from Coogee, said there was little doubt a GST rise would make life more expensive.   Sad

“It depends on how it is packaged up,” Mr Mawer, 40, said. “Frankly, life would be a bit more expensive.

“We won’t be the most ­affected family, but it is concerning for our parents. What would the government do with the extra money?”.

THE GST CHOICES ON THE TABLE   Sad

Option A:

Increase GST from 10 per cent to 15 per cent with no exemptions which would broaden the base to include fresh food, health and education including private school fees

Option B:

Regarded by officials as a more likely option, was a 15 per cent GST that still exempts fresh food. This would increase the price of existing goods that already attract the GST, for example takeaway food, and other goods and services

Option C:

A 15 per cent GST that exempts food, health and education. This would deliver the status quo in terms of exemptions but increase the rate on existing goods that already attract the GST

Option D:

A 12.5 per cent GST. The smaller increase to the GST was regarded as an unlikely prospect by officials because it would fail to deliver enough revenue to provide for income tax cuts and cover the state’s funding shortfalls in health and education


How about we abolish GST, and hand back taxation rights to the states?
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Reply #338 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:52pm
 
I would be in favour of a 25 or 30% GST ... but only if they abolished all other taxes
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Reply #339 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:53pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 3:06pm:
I have paid huge amounts of the fricking GST—out of my own pocket! It is a sh1t of a tax, it should be removed.


Seeing as any payment of GST to the government is net, you are only required to pay the excess of what you charged over what you paid. If it was out of your pocket, you used money that should have been paid to the government, but had spent it.
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Reply #340 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:27pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:29pm:
money is being wasted on middle class welfare...

the little man is carrying the load while these yuppies are bludging on them..

What spending do you consider to be wasteful middle class welfare?
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Reply #341 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:32pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:29pm:
money is being wasted on middle class welfare...

the little man is carrying the load while these yuppies are bludging on them..


You got that right.....
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Reply #342 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:26pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:52pm:
I would be in favour of a 25 or 30% GST ... but only if they abolished all other taxes


Did you suffer a head injury whilst camping Smithy?  Grin Cheesy
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Reply #343 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 4:09pm
 
Hmmm waiting for some friends to meet up at the Market I browsed a bit of the Australian.

Seems the hardheads in the Liberal Party have realised that raising the GST now is 1. Not going to fly politically and 2. is a stupid thing to do economically. So they are going to carve into Howard’s profligacy and restructure super tax exemptions.

It was sad reading the rightards here praising raising the GST just because their Party suggested it might do that.
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Reply #344 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 7:43pm
 
Bump these posts back up to the top of page after a day of distraction from the dummies telegraph
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