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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #30 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:18am Yes, we need to undo so much of the Howard/Costello profligacy and economic mismanagement. I have said this consistently for a looong time. I have also said Rudd/Swan were idiots to give a tax cut in 2008/9.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #31 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:33am Bobby keeps talking about PS pay having to be reduced. Folly at a time like this! He doesn’t understand economics but even Bobby should be able to understand that when the economy is in recession cutting pay cuts demand cuts jobs = deeper recession.
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Reply #32 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:43am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:18am:

Yes, we need to undo so much of the Howard/Costello profligacy and economic mismanagement. I have said this consistently for a looong time. I have also said Rudd/Swan were idiots to give a tax cut in 2008/9.

Remember this?

Rudd & Gillard Labor have already undone it..... Cheesy

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Reply #33 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:03pm

Swagman wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:43am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:18am:

Yes, we need to undo so much of the Howard/Costello profligacy and economic mismanagement. I have said this consistently for a looong time. I have also said Rudd/Swan were idiots to give a tax cut in 2008/9.

Remember this?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/Debt%20Free.jpg

Rudd & Gillard Labor have already undone it..... Cheesy

Well just sold of medibank, what's next?

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Reply #34 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:04pm

Just ignore infrastructure deficit for 2 decades, selling off Australias gold reserves far below market value crashing the global gold exchange, selling off all public infrastructure to mates which has further hampered infrastructure investment in Australia, giving away 350 billion in vote buying.

A monkey could have given Australia a surplus from the mid 90s to mid-00s.

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Reply #35 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:11pm

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Just ignore infrastructure deficit for 2 decades, selling off Australias gold reserves far below market value crashing the global gold exchange, selling off all public infrastructure to mates which has further hampered infrastructure investment in Australia, giving away 350 billion in vote buying.

A monkey could have given Australia a surplus from the mid 90s to mid-00s.

So Keating must have been more hopeless than a monkey?

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Reply #36 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:12pm

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Just ignore infrastructure deficit for 2 decades, selling off Australias gold reserves far below market value crashing the global gold exchange, selling off all public infrastructure to mates which has further hampered infrastructure investment in Australia, giving away 350 billion in vote buying.

A monkey could have given Australia a surplus from the mid 90s to mid-00s.

A money did give Australia a surplus from the mid 90s to mid 00s they were know as Howard and Costello.

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Opinions are like arseholes everyone got one.

It doesn't mean that your opinion or my opinion is right

See my post in the welcome thread reply #575 and you will know what I am like

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Reply #37 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:13pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:33am:

Bobby keeps talking about PS having to be reduced. Folly at a time like this! He doesn’t understand economics but even Bobby should be able to understand that when the economy is in recession cutting pay cuts demand cuts jobs = deeper recession.

But public servants are being paid out of borrowed money -

how can that be sustainable?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 107044 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #38 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:17pm Watch the next election - Labor will carry on about how unfair the 15% GST is but if they win they will grab the 15% like an alcoholic grabs a bottle of whiskey.
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Reply #39 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:06am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:05am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:03am:

Increasing the GST should be the last option not the first.

Increase the GST and lower income taxes should be the priority.

What's the point of lowering our PAYE tax & then taking it back with a higher GST?

PAYE taxes carry higher deadweight losses.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #40 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:32pm

crocodile wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:06am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:05am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 10:03am:

Increasing the GST should be the last option not the first.

Increase the GST and lower income taxes should be the priority.

What's the point of lowering our PAYE tax & then taking it back with a higher GST?

PAYE taxes carry higher deadweight losses.

It's all smoke & mirrors but we know that our taxes are going up.

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Reply #41 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:35pm

Swagman wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:43am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:18am:

Yes, we need to undo so much of the Howard/Costello profligacy and economic mismanagement. I have said this consistently for a looong time. I have also said Rudd/Swan were idiots to give a tax cut in 2008/9.

Remember this?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/Debt%20Free.jpg

Rudd & Gillard Labor have already undone it..... Cheesy

I remember. But edify us Swaggie. Why is it so important ?

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18027 Gender:	Re: Secret Plans Drawn UP To Lift GST Reply #42 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:37pm Didn't you read the headline? SSHHH it's a SECRET.
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Reply #43 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:40pm

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 9:29am:

Also another large part is protecting Australian retail by killing imports.

I no longer can afford to buy imported goods, the price (collapsing AUD) + shipping makes a $10 book from Amazon go up to $30, throw 15% GST on that and its $35... for a $10 book.

I wanted a new video card, $600 on Newegg, once I worked out the price to import, it was over $1000 Australian (and I could pick it up for slightly cheaper at local store MSY).

15% GST on imported goods is the final death knell for online shopping in Australia

And I can buy an item that costs $600 here for $100 overseas. By the time it gets to me it is around $220. I am still massively better off.

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Reply #44 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 12:42pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 9:34am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 7:33am:

Look at Sweden or Norway - I can't remember which it is. They have free health care, free public transport, and so on. They also pay a lot more tax than us but don't mind because they get excellent services from their government for FREE. Can't see that happening here with your narrow "me, me, me, gimme, gimme, gimme" mindset.

Two pizzas a 4 glasses of coke cost me $140 Au in Norway 15 yrs ago .... I'm not so sure you want to emulate Norway, it has some of the highest costs of living in the world.

they also have higher wages, don't fund private education or health, a lot of their industries are government owned, they have a huge percentage of the population employed in the public sector and pay unemployment benefits at the same rate as your previous salary was before dropping it to 80% after 6 months. Before they discovered oil, Norway was almost a 3rd world country.

You still want to look at Norway dopey?

And in other threads you talk about how wonderful Norway is. You really don't have a handle on the idea of having a single position on anything, do you?

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Question: Do you want to have a 15% GST?
Yes 7 (33.3%) No 14 (66.7%) Not sure 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 21 « Created by: Bobby. on: Nov 5^th, 2015 at 4:13pm »