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Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:28pm

Do we have the world's most expensive refugee policy? It costs us a fortune - over a billion dollars in 2014 for just over 2000 refugees on both Nauru and Manus Island. By contrast UNHCR spent $157 Million (or 16% of our spending) looking after 200,000 refugees, half a million internally displaced people and 1.4 million stateless people.

How long can we justify this cost? One country's hot potato issues is another's lottery win. We've substantially increased foreign aid and introduced a brand new Asylum Seeker processing industry which has injected hundreds of millions of dollars into their economies.

We’ve taken money (and jobs) out of the Australian economy so that we can send victims of war, terrorism and persecution to these islands.

What we've become is a Sugar Daddy. At the expense of our own citizens. The question is, should we persue a policy that has a massive expense with little gain?

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Reply #1 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:32pm

Raven wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:28pm:

Do we have the world's most expensive refugee policy? It costs us a fortune - over a billion dollars in 2014 for just over 2000 refugees on both Nauru and Manus Island. By contrast UNHCR spent $157 Million (or 16% of our spending) looking after 200,000 refugees, half a million internally displaced people and 1.4 million stateless people.

How long can we justify this cost? One country's hot potato issues is another's lottery win. We've substantially increased foreign aid and introduced a brand new Asylum Seeker processing industry which has injected hundreds of millions of dollars into their economies.

We’ve taken money (and jobs) out of the Australian economy so that we can send victims of war, terrorism and persecution to these islands.

What we've become is a Sugar Daddy. At the expense of our own citizens. The question is, should we persue a policy that has a massive expense with little gain?

No. We should abandon this outrageous policy at the earliest convenience.

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Reply #2 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:59pm

mothra wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:32pm:

Raven wrote on Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:28pm:

Do we have the world's most expensive refugee policy? It costs us a fortune - over a billion dollars in 2014 for just over 2000 refugees on both Nauru and Manus Island. By contrast UNHCR spent $157 Million (or 16% of our spending) looking after 200,000 refugees, half a million internally displaced people and 1.4 million stateless people.

How long can we justify this cost? One country's hot potato issues is another's lottery win. We've substantially increased foreign aid and introduced a brand new Asylum Seeker processing industry which has injected hundreds of millions of dollars into their economies.

We’ve taken money (and jobs) out of the Australian economy so that we can send victims of war, terrorism and persecution to these islands.

What we've become is a Sugar Daddy. At the expense of our own citizens. The question is, should we persue a policy that has a massive expense with little gain?

No. We should abandon this outrageous policy at the earliest convenience.

Agreed we should shut the borders and let the little termites infest a place of their own bile religion. Indonesia.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Nauru & Manus Island Reply #3 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 3:45am Look on the bright side. Lifting and broadening taxes, so everyone pays more GST, helps fund these gulags. Conservatives are happy to pay higher taxes for inhumane treatment of refugees, yet not to save our environment so to save ourselves. Conservatives are strange creatures.
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macman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2435 australia Gender:	Re: Nauru & Manus Island Reply #4 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 5:24am Do not forget our 'millionaire refugees' in Cambodia. Shame liberals shame.
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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Nauru & Manus Island Reply #5 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 5:38am yes... the cost of a Labor/Greens government is horrendous.. and never ending... Rudd.. Gillard.. and all of those dropkicks that voted for them ought to be ashamed of themselves...
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Nauru & Manus Island Reply #6 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:25am Nothing more important than keeping the enemy outside your gates. Christ, we've got enough of them already in . . .like Mother Russia fr instance.
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Reply #7 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:34am

a totally mind blowing ammount of money.

The government are forced to spend this because each assylum seeker has 5 people from shine lawyers stalking them 24 hours a day and so they recieve the very best , gold class care.
This comes at a cost.
The big winners are the human rights lawyer hangers on and the assylum seeker industry moral 'chest thumpers"

the big losers are the assylum seekers and the tax payers

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Reply #8 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:41am

macman wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 5:24am:

Do not forget our 'millionaire refugees' in Cambodia. Shame liberals shame.

An extremely expensive failed attempt to offload our troubles onto a corrupt, third world nation.

Next country on the shopping list....Kyrgyzstan....oh my allah!

When will we grow up and take responsibility for our own problems?

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #9 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:43am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:34am:

a totally mind blowing ammount of money.

The government are forced to spend this because each assylum seeker has 5 people from shine lawyers stalking them 24 hours a day and so they recieve the very best , gold class care.
This comes at a cost.
The big winners are the human rights lawyer hangers on and the assylum seeker industry moral 'chest thumpers"

the big losers are the assylum seekers and the tax payers

Nah, the Libs spend that money to appease bogans and racists, like Scoot it seems.

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Reply #10 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:23am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:43am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:34am:

a totally mind blowing ammount of money.

The government are forced to spend this because each assylum seeker has 5 people from shine lawyers stalking them 24 hours a day and so they recieve the very best , gold class care.
This comes at a cost.
The big winners are the human rights lawyer hangers on and the assylum seeker industry moral 'chest thumpers"

the big losers are the assylum seekers and the tax payers

Nah, the Libs spend that money to appease bogans and racists, like Scoot it seems.

So now it's racist to decide who we allow into this country?

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Nauru & Manus Island Reply #11 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 8:54am The more the idiot left hear about Sweden becoming the rape capital of Europe because of muslim immigration the more they want to ramp up muslim immigration here, why does the idiot left want women to be raped?
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Nauru & Manus Island Reply #12 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:05am So they can turn around and yell about how bad men are.
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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Nauru & Manus Island Reply #13 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:05am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 7:23am: So now it's racist to decide who we allow into this country? Does it feel good to have John Howards hand up your arse?
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Reply #14 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:09am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:43am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 6:34am:

a totally mind blowing ammount of money.

The government are forced to spend this because each assylum seeker has 5 people from shine lawyers stalking them 24 hours a day and so they recieve the very best , gold class care.
This comes at a cost.
The big winners are the human rights lawyer hangers on and the assylum seeker industry moral 'chest thumpers"

the big losers are the assylum seekers and the tax payers

Nah, the Libs spend that money to appease bogans and racists, like Scoot it seems.

These people should be given an opportunity to stay in australia with the following provisos.

No access to citizenship or welfare and they get reassessed after 5 years .
If they have started a successful small business (many will have because it requires a level of guts and courage to make the journey) they can stay.

Manus and naru can then be used to house those who dont turn up to their work for the dole programs.

this way we replace leaners with lifters .

Its like a football team, we delist the non performers and send out talent scouts to get new recruits to help us be a winning team

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