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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Why should Qld be able to scuttle GST change? Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:03am It's an unworkable system if you need unanimous support for any change. Tear it up and start again.
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Sir Crook Ex Member	Re: Why should Qld be able to scuttle GST change? Reply #1 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:06am Premier Andrews in Victoria, said he does not support an increase in the GST.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26420 Gender:	Re: Why should Qld be able to scuttle GST change? Reply #2 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:13am The GST should be 15% and should apply to everything. This would enable governments to scrap a myriad of other taxes while maintaining an increase in overall revenue.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Why should Qld be able to scuttle GST change? Reply #3 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:15am Quote: Premier Andrews in Victoria, said he does not support an increase in the GST. This is what I mean. The Labor states will scupper any change for political purposes. Stuff the good of the nation.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59372 Here Gender:	Re: Why should Qld be able to scuttle GST change? Reply #4 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:15am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:13am: The GST should be 15% and should apply to everything. This would enable governments to scrap a myriad of other taxes while maintaining an increase in overall revenue. Putting all the eggs in a basket with a hole in it.
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Reply #5 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:16am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:03am:

It's an unworkable system if you need unanimous support for any change.

Tear it up and start again.

labor will never support it... but they will TAKE IT>.. Grin

.. a bit like howard v beazley...
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they will never give it back..I love it.. it smacks of hypocrisy at its worst..a real STINKER.

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Reply #6 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:17am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:15am:

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Premier Andrews in Victoria, said he does not support an increase in the GST.

This is what I mean. The Labor states will scupper any change for political purposes.
Stuff the good of the nation.

It probably is bad for the nation, there are better ways to fix things that just another unfair money grab.

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Reply #7 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:20am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:15am:

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Premier Andrews in Victoria, said he does not support an increase in the GST.

This is what I mean. The Labor states will scupper any change for political purposes.
Stuff the good of the nation.

you mean like the libs with offshore detention and the carbon tax? Cheesy

the difference is they really were for the good of the nation, raising the GST isn't.

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Reply #8 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:24am

Why should Qld be able to scuttle GST change?

It isn't just Qld any state can do it or a combination of most states.

This was the intended purpose of the process the GST was set to 10% and this process was put into place to ensure that it stays at 10%.

The Liberal party's intention was to have a 10% GST, not a 15% GST.

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Reply #9 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:25am

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:20am:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:15am:

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Premier Andrews in Victoria, said he does not support an increase in the GST.

This is what I mean. The Labor states will scupper any change for political purposes.
Stuff the good of the nation.

you mean like the libs with offshore detention and the carbon tax? Cheesy

the difference is they really were for the good of the nation, raising the GST isn't.

Labor was vehemently against offshore detention. They only did it half-arsed because they ran out of other options. neither the carbon tax nor Labor's illegal immigrant policy were good for the nation. Both were extremely costly and provided no benefit whatsoever.

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Reply #10 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:27am

Carbon Tax saw huge reduction in CO2 releases. How is spending over a billion dollars for some refugees (when refugees economically have net positive effect on the economy in the long term) good money? Where is your CBA on that? Oh wait doesn't exist, because all economists agree that Refugees are good for the economy in the long run, even your oh so precious IPA.

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Reply #11 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:33am

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:20am:

you mean like the libs with offshore detention and the carbon tax? Cheesy

the difference is they really were for the good of the nation, raising the GST isn't.

Totally agree who needs taxes to pay for stuff when the Magic Money Tree is there for everyone.

Stupid liberals.

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Why should Qld be able to scuttle GST change? Reply #12 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:34am bogarde73 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:03am: It's an unworkable system if you need unanimous support for any change. Tear it up and start again. Do you prefer dictatorial approach...????
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Reply #13 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:34am

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:27am:

Carbon Tax saw huge reduction in CO2 releases. How is spending over a billion dollars for some refugees (when refugees economically have net positive effect on the economy in the long term) good money? Where is your CBA on that? Oh wait doesn't exist, because all economists agree that Refugees are good for the economy in the long run, even your oh so precious IPA.

Australians paid $14b to reduce global emissions by 0.004%. Australia's emissions dropped by a paltry 1.4% - hardly something to be proud of, especially when you look at how much money was spent doing it. So if we want to achieve even a 50% reduction, we only have to fork out around $700bn to do it! Besides, emissions were already falling before the carbon tax came into effect. So it's true effect is probably even less than this.

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Reply #14 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:34am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:03am:

It's an unworkable system if you need unanimous support for any change.

Tear it up and start again.

Yes it was meant to be an unworkable system - that was the point in its design. People argued that it was stupid at the time but the conservatives all supported it. Many even laughed about how effective it was to ensure that the Liberals would get elected and a GST would be implemented.

That was the point giving the impression that a GST once implemented could not be changed was a major reassurance that allowed the Howard government to be re elected with the lie of the never ever GST as their core policy.

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