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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 74753 Gender:	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #30 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:42am red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:31am: God taught us above all to love and forgive each other. unless you're an Islamic asylum seeker, right Red?
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Reply #31 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:46am

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:42am:

red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:31am:

God taught us above all to love and forgive each other.

unless you're an Islamic asylum seeker, right Red?

the islamists seem quite hateful.
sunnis gassing shia, shia blowing up sunnis, putting people in cages and burning them alive, beheading homosexuals, stoning adulteresses ,

i think red is quite justified to say that christianity is a more peaceful religion and more deserving of our support.

to not think so is

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Reply #32 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 8:15am

Isnt the real question about the VALIDITY and TRUTH of the Christian religion? If it is indeed true or even substantially true, shouldn't the state mandate Christian education and take children away from atheist parents?

This is the flip-side of Greens typically idiotic Opening Post. It starts with an assumption that is untested and unproven.

If we decided to go down the route of taking peoples kids away from them then we should most definitely taken them away from gays and from atheists.

Now if you can PROVE Christianity wrong then you have a point, but until that time you have to accept that perhaps it is true and it is YOU than needs to have kids taken away from.

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Reply #33 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 9:24am

"Religious Teaching" is more broad than just one religion and so if you want to argue the merits of a certain religion Maria, this thread is not the place. Start a new thread.

And as far as taking children away, that was suggested by freediver.

Now the stolen generation here in Australia was driven by religious beliefs. Another link with religion and child abuse.

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Reply #34 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 9:58am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 8:15am:

Now if you can PROVE Christianity wrong then you have a point, but until that time you have to accept that perhaps it is true and it is YOU than needs to have kids taken away from.

There is no more perhaps it is true than any other religion, including things like Scientology. There are many specific claims the religion makes that are almost certainly not true.

The entire basis for the religion is completely unreasonable in any case. It's rather clear why people believe it and how it came to be prominent.

There is not a single good reason to believe the supernatural claims the religion makes.

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Muttley Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 483	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #35 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:05am John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:24pm: shut up idiot ... q & A hasn't started here yet and now you've spoilt it for me. Poor Jack, what a disappointment for him.....
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Reply #36 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:09am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 8:15am:

Now if you can PROVE Christianity wrong then you have a point, but until that time you have to accept that perhaps it is true and it is YOU than needs to have kids taken away from.

There are no primary sources that Jesus even existed, let alone did all the things that were written in the Bible.

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #37 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:16am

Kytro wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 9:58am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 8:15am:

Now if you can PROVE Christianity wrong then you have a point, but until that time you have to accept that perhaps it is true and it is YOU than needs to have kids taken away from.

There is no more perhaps it is true than any other religion, including things like Scientology. There are many specific claims the religion makes that are almost certainly not true.

The entire basis for the religion is completely unreasonable in any case. It's rather clear why people believe it and how it came to be prominent.

There is not a single good reason to believe the supernatural claims the religion makes.

Nor any proof to debunk it either. That is why in matters of religion we give FREEDOM - something Greens apparently does not support.

Why not takes kids away from people who believe the Climate Change Hysterical Lies? That is also a religion.

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Reply #38 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:18am

Stratos wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:09am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 8:15am:

Now if you can PROVE Christianity wrong then you have a point, but until that time you have to accept that perhaps it is true and it is YOU than needs to have kids taken away from.

There are no primary sources that Jesus even existed, let alone did all the things that were written in the Bible.

Well now you are just seeking to be dense - and succeeding. The proof of Jesus' existence is enormous and is accepted as fact by historians. There are plenty of eye-witness accounts.

If you want to debate the topic of religion don't start by bringing in such obvious nonsense.

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #39 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:18am John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:42am: red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:31am: God taught us above all to love and forgive each other. unless you're an Islamic asylum seeker, right Red? Do unto others as they would do unto you.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #40 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:20am mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:18am: There are plenty of eye-witness accounts. Give me one. I've had this discussion before, and i can pretty much predict what you are going to post.
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Reply #41 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:23am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:16am:

Nor any proof to debunk it either. That is why in matters of religion we give FREEDOM - something Greens apparently does not support.

Why not takes kids away from people who believe the Climate Change Hysterical Lies? That is also a religion.

Certainly some claims it makes can be debunked, but more seriously, the supernatural claims it makes can be safely ignored.

Effectively extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, which isn't provided.

Climate change is science, it actually has evidence. There are certainly political aspects to the consequences, but to claim climate science is akin to religion show a fundamental misunderstanding of what science is and how it accumulates evidence. You may want to dispute the evidence or models, but the evidence is there. Religion does not have this. It just has claims without any corresponding evidence.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #43 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:39am Stratos wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:20am: mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:18am: There are plenty of eye-witness accounts. Give me one. I've had this discussion before, and i can pretty much predict what you are going to post. There's none. It's hearsay...not heresy.
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Reply #44 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:40am

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:18am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:42am:

red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:31am:

God taught us above all to love and forgive each other.

unless you're an Islamic asylum seeker, right Red?

Do unto others as they would do unto you.

I do ... I know lots of muslims, most are nice. I can't say the same about others.

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