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Reply #420 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:16pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:09pm:

Notice how aggressive and un-Christian-like these bible jockeys become when you quietly tell them that religion was invented as a coping-mechanism for being better able to handle some of the more sad and disappointing moments in life ... the death of a loved one, etc.

Yet here it is you abusing them.

Where is the abuse? There is certainly questioning, but no abuse.

Calling people bible jockeys and saying religion was invented as a coping-mechanism for being better able to handle some of the more sad and disappointing moments in life ... the death of a loved one.

When clearly that is his ignorant view that he cannot prove.

What are you an athiest jocky ?

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Reply #421 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:21pm

He Man wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:09pm:

Notice how aggressive and un-Christian-like these bible jockeys become when you quietly tell them that religion was invented as a coping-mechanism for being better able to handle some of the more sad and disappointing moments in life ... the death of a loved one, etc.

Yet here it is you abusing them.

Where is the abuse? There is certainly questioning, but no abuse.

Calling people bible jockeys and saying religion was invented as a coping-mechanism for being better able to handle some of the more sad and disappointing moments in life ... the death of a loved one.

When clearly that is his ignorant view that he cannot prove.

What are you an athiest jocky ?

Well, bible jockey could be taken as abuse by someone with extremely thin skin, do you have that affliction? Saying it is a coping mechanism is in no way abuse. Just as observations of other mental illnesses symptoms is not abuse but classification.

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Reply #422 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:34pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:09pm:

Notice how aggressive and un-Christian-like these bible jockeys become when you quietly tell them that religion was invented as a coping-mechanism for being better able to handle some of the more sad and disappointing moments in life ... the death of a loved one, etc.

Yet here it is you abusing them.

Where is the abuse? There is certainly questioning, but no abuse.

Calling people bible jockeys and saying religion was invented as a coping-mechanism for being better able to handle some of the more sad and disappointing moments in life ... the death of a loved one.

When clearly that is his ignorant view that he cannot prove.

What are you an athiest jocky ?

Well, bible jockey could be taken as abuse by someone with extremely very thin skin, do you have that affliction? Saying it is a coping mechanism is in no way abuse. Just as observations of other mental illnesses symptoms is not abuse but classification.

Nope I don't have that affliction but someone that cant debate the subject without calling someone a bible jockey strikes me as someone who has a very thin skin though.Saying it is a coping mechanism is a just theory and incredibly ignorant comment to make without proof. Just like someone posting an observance of a mental illness in someone that has a closed mind and the inability to learn or debate. Basically a non free thinker due to adherence to the atheistic religion.

It never fails to amaze me why atheists seem to be the most unhappy people around. Maybe abusing people is their coping mechanism for unanswered questions in their lives.

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Reply #423 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:01pm:

It was the same with the 'eye-witness' issue.

Your "eye-witness" is an anonymous author you, or anyone for that matter cannot identify. I have said this repeatedly, but here we are, you breaking the ninth commandment again for shame.

mariacostel wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:01pm:

This debate is terminated on the basis that only one of us is actually debating. The other is screaming his distaste of God and I will not participate in that.

In other words, you refuse to answer any of the perfectly legitimate points I raised, and are now trying to take your bat and ball and go home. You know what adding extra phrases to make your argument seem stronger would be called in any other document? Forgery. But sadly, objectivity isn't something you or the King James translators seem to value Embarrassed

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #424 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm

He Man wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:34pm:

Nope I don't have that affliction but someone that cant debate the subject without calling someone a bible jockey strikes me as someone who has a very thin skin though.Saying it is a coping mechanism is a just theory and incredibly ignorant comment to make without proof. Just like someone posting an observance of a mental illness in someone that has a closed mind and the inability to learn or debate. Basically a non free thinker due to adherence to the atheistic religion.

It never fails to amaze me why atheists seem to be the most unhappy people around. Maybe abusing people is their coping mechanism for unanswered questions in their lives.

The one that takes offence first has the thinnest skin around here it seems, that would be you on this one.

Why do you need it and we don't? To those that don't it looks very much like a coping mechanism, it's an observation.

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Reply #425 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:45pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm:

The one that takes offence first has the thinnest skin around here it seems, that would be you on this one.

No it isn't and no it wouldn't be. I just commented on it. Deal with it.

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm:

Why do you need it and we don't? To those that don't it looks very much like a coping mechanism, it's an observation.

But you do you have made your own coping mechanism. Everybody has a belief system. No need to abuse others because they don't share yours.

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Reply #426 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:51pm

Quote He Man: It never fails to amaze me why atheists seem to be the most unhappy people around. Maybe abusing people is their coping mechanism for unanswered questions in their lives.

I cannot agree. A turban and a pious pose does not make a Muslim, and saying you don't believe in God does not make you an Atheist. I have read a great deal by so called Atheists and looked at their lives, and I don't see a preponderance unhappiness. Religious fanatics are famous for suicide.

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Reply #427 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:02am

He Man wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm:

The one that takes offence first has the thinnest skin around here it seems, that would be you on this one.

No it isn't and no it wouldn't be. I just commented on it. Deal with it.

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm:

Why do you need it and we don't? To those that don't it looks very much like a coping mechanism, it's an observation.

But you do you have made your own coping mechanism. Everybody has a belief system. No need to abuse others because they don't share yours.

Certainly. It doesn't involve a father figure in the clouds though. If I have to cope with consequences I have caused, I accept responsibility, and learn from it. I cope with things I cannot control or have an input into as c'est la vie.

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Reply #428 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:04am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:01pm:

This debate is terminated on the basis that only one of us is actually debating. The other is screaming his distaste of God and I will not participate in that.

As usual, when Longy is backed into a corner, he takes his bat and ball and runs home.

Make sure mummy kisses the boo-boo better.

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Reply #429 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:05am

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:09pm:

Notice how aggressive and un-Christian-like these bible jockeys become when you quietly tell them that religion was invented as a coping-mechanism for being better able to handle some of the more sad and disappointing moments in life ... the death of a loved one, etc.

If only Longy had one.

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Reply #430 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:06am

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:02am:

He Man wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm:

The one that takes offence first has the thinnest skin around here it seems, that would be you on this one.

No it isn't and no it wouldn't be. I just commented on it. Deal with it.

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm:

Why do you need it and we don't? To those that don't it looks very much like a coping mechanism, it's an observation.

But you do you have made your own coping mechanism. Everybody has a belief system. No need to abuse others because they don't share yours.

Certainly. It doesn't involve a father figure in the clouds though. If I have to cope with consequences I have caused, I accept responsibility, and learn from it. I cope with things I cannot control or have an input into as c'est la vie.

Not sure what religion does have a father figure in the clouds or was that you getting upset at people that believe in a god because you have the belief that god doesn't exist.
What responsibility do you exactly accept. The one dictated to you that god does not exists that you blindly follow ?

Most people cope with things they cannot control. They don't run around telling everyone they know if a god exists or not and getting upset. Only atheists with that belief do that.

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Reply #431 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am

He Man wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:06am:

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:02am:

He Man wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm:

The one that takes offence first has the thinnest skin around here it seems, that would be you on this one.

No it isn't and no it wouldn't be. I just commented on it. Deal with it.

Setanta wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 11:40pm:

Why do you need it and we don't? To those that don't it looks very much like a coping mechanism, it's an observation.

But you do you have made your own coping mechanism. Everybody has a belief system. No need to abuse others because they don't share yours.

Certainly. It doesn't involve a father figure in the clouds though. If I have to cope with consequences I have caused, I accept responsibility, and learn from it. I cope with things I cannot control or have an input into as c'est la vie.

Not sure what religion does have a father figure in the clouds or was that you getting upset at people that believe in a god because you have the belief that god doesn't exist.
What responsibility do you exactly accept. The one dictated to you that god does not exists that you blindly follow ?

Most people cope with things they cannot control. They don't run around telling everyone they know if a god exists or not and getting upset. Only atheists with that belief do that.

I'm not upset and that is something you cannot make happen. Would invisible friend have been nicer? You do have a thin skin.
No. if I f up I accept the consequences and learn from the experience. I'm not "forgiven".

I'm not telling you that either, it's an assumption you have made, but you are right, I don't believe there is one. I could be wrong but if I am, god is nothing like any religion puts forth.

Edit: I disbelieve in man's gods. All of them.

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Reply #432 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:26am

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

I'm not upset and that is something you cannot make happen.

Cannot make what happen ?

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Would invisible friend have been nicer?

Not sure what your question is here. What has that got to do with the existence of a God.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

You do have a thin skin.

It takes a thinner skin to babble on about the fact you know there is no god when clearly you wouldn't know.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

No. if I f up I accept the consequences and learn from the experience. I'm not "forgiven".

Learn from what experience. If a god does exist and you never accepted his salvation I'd say you are not forgiven by his standards if that is in fact what you are alluding too.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

I'm not telling you that either, it's an assumption you have made, but you are right, I don't believe there is one.

Cool that is your belief and others have theirs.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

I could be wrong but if I am, god is nothing like any religion puts forth.

Yet you wouldn't know either way. Thats pretty closed minded. Do you blindly follow the people that teach you this stuff.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Edit: I disbelieve in man's gods. All of them.

So I take it you believe in the non mans gods then. Or do you just stick to your belief system none exists based on mans knowledge.

Thats a bit closed minded.

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Reply #433 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:42am

He Man wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:26am:

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

I'm not upset and that is something you cannot make happen.

Cannot make what happen ?

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Would invisible friend have been nicer?

Not sure what your question is here. What has that got to do with the existence of a God.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

You do have a thin skin.

It takes a thinner skin to babble on about the fact you know there is no god when clearly you wouldn't know.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

No. if I f up I accept the consequences and learn from the experience. I'm not "forgiven".

Learn from what experience. If a god does exist and you never accepted his salvation I'd say you are not forgiven by his standards if that is in fact what you are alluding too.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

I'm not telling you that either, it's an assumption you have made, but you are right, I don't believe there is one.

Cool that is your belief and others have theirs.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

I could be wrong but if I am, god is nothing like any religion puts forth.

Yet you wouldn't know either way. Thats pretty closed minded. Do you blindly follow the people that teach you this stuff.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Edit: I disbelieve in man's gods. All of them.

So I take it you believe in the non mans gods then. Or do you just stick to your belief system none exists based on mans knowledge.

Thats a bit closed minded.

1: Make me upset.
2: Nicer than bible jockey?
3: I told you I don't know but I don't believe there is, especially any idea of god that man has had. You are the one sticking up for something and proclaiming it, not me.
4: Learn from the experiences life throws at you, when you f up, maybe you need to talk to Aquascoot. He'll explain it. How to be successful and all.
5: I don't think I have ever proclaimed that I am right. That doesn't preclude me believing you are wrong.
6: Yet you also don't know either way unless there's something you are hiding. I know you believe what other men have told you, you didn't discover your christ all by yourself. He was foisted upon you by your culture and/or parents.

edit: re 6, I dare say you may well be praising allah if you were born elsewhere.

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Reply #434 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:56am

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:42am:

He Man wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:26am:

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

I'm not upset and that is something you cannot make happen.

Cannot make what happen ?

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Would invisible friend have been nicer?

Not sure what your question is here. What has that got to do with the existence of a God.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

You do have a thin skin.

It takes a thinner skin to babble on about the fact you know there is no god when clearly you wouldn't know.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

No. if I f up I accept the consequences and learn from the experience. I'm not "forgiven".

Learn from what experience. If a god does exist and you never accepted his salvation I'd say you are not forgiven by his standards if that is in fact what you are alluding too.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

I'm not telling you that either, it's an assumption you have made, but you are right, I don't believe there is one.

Cool that is your belief and others have theirs.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

I could be wrong but if I am, god is nothing like any religion puts forth.

Yet you wouldn't know either way. Thats pretty closed minded. Do you blindly follow the people that teach you this stuff.

Setanta wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Edit: I disbelieve in man's gods. All of them.

So I take it you believe in the non mans gods then. Or do you just stick to your belief system none exists based on mans knowledge.

Thats a bit closed minded.

1: Make me upset.
2: Nicer than bible jockey?
3: I told you I don't know but I don't believe there is, especially any idea of god that man has had. You are the one sticking up for something and proclaiming it, not me.
4: Learn from the experiences life throws at you, when you f up, maybe you need to talk to Aquascoot. He'll explain it. How to be successful and all.
5: I don't think I have ever proclaimed that I am right. That doesn't preclude me believing you are wrong.
6: Yet you also don't know either way unless there's something you are hiding. I know you believe what other men have told you, you didn't discover your christ all by yourself. He was foisted upon you by your culture and/or parents.

1. So you think I can't make you upset. Not sure what your point is.
2. Just another display of an atheist trying to make someone upset. Not sure why you think it would be any different.
3. Yes I said you have your belief and others theirs. I am sticking up for people atheists abuse when they themselves clearly would not know if a god existed or not. It is very childish to force their views on someone else when simply it is just based on their beliefs.
4 Everybody learns from lifes experiences, I fail to see why you make silly comments re aquascoot.
5 You can't prove that you are right that's my whole point as your belief is that I am wrong and you are free to hold that belief as I believe you are wrong.
6 I have my own reasons for belief I have no need to force my belief on you nor abuse you for not believing me. As far as hiding something goes that was a bit dramatic don't you think. I don't believe other men at all. They sparked my curiosity and in my life I have drawn my own conclusions and found what I consider truth and reality. Of course if Christ existed there would be stories about him. Of course if a God existed he would have made himself real to a seeker of him. If someone believes he is not real so be it.

I fail to see the drama about running around crying imaginary friend, man in the sky and there is no god when clearly you wouldn't know. Its just your belief that you have. You have a right to believe just like the ones you try and be a smart ass too.

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