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Reply #450 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:48pm

mitasol wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

Religion was invented to explain the inexplicable at a time when scientific research was not at the level that it is today. Somewhere along the line a bunch of twats decided that they could use it to control the masses, viz the inquisition -

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!

Surely we are now at a stage where the theatre of religion is no longer needed

The believers need to convince themselves there is a god, that's why they need to keep pushing it onto each other the whole time.....just in case they start to explore other possibilities.

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Reply #451 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:23pm

mitasol wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

Religion was invented to explain the inexplicable at a time when scientific research was not at the level that it is today. Somewhere along the line a bunch of twats decided that they could use it to control the masses, viz the inquisition -

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!

Surely we are now at a stage where the theatre of religion is no longer needed

That's a moot point.

Needless to say, religion is the drug of choice for most people, and as an addictive recreational activity it undoubtedly carries with it certain therapeutic benefits.

Where I differ from the mob is that I am dead set against this form of mind-game being thrust upon the suggestible minds of the very young.

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Reply #452 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:36pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:23pm:

mitasol wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

Religion was invented to explain the inexplicable at a time when scientific research was not at the level that it is today. Somewhere along the line a bunch of twats decided that they could use it to control the masses, viz the inquisition -

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!

Surely we are now at a stage where the theatre of religion is no longer needed

That's a moot point.

Needless to say, religion is the drug of choice for most people, and as an addictive recreational activity it undoubtedly carries with it certain therapeutic benefits.

Where I differ from the mob is that I am dead set against this form of mind-game being thrust upon the suggestible minds of the very young.

Have you ever considered that you might be completely wrong? Ever considered there might actually be a God? That would make you a bit of a fool, wouldn't it?

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Reply #453 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:38pm

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:51am:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:40pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:20pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

____ wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:19pm:

Paul Ehrlich on qanda

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/coming_up.htm#PAUL_EHRLICH

Stated teaching children fictional religions is child abuse.

So why is this child abuse acceptable?

I totally agree.

It should be a criminal offence for adults to teach impressionable children that those parts of the bible which deal in fantasy are true.

Social ethics, values, and morality are something quite distinct from religious belief. The one does not inextricably depend upon the other as those with an emotional or political investment in religion would have you believe.

In fact religion's main purpose has always been to give certain people authority and power over other people. The priesthood was the very first profession - not prostitution as many would have you believe.

How do you propose to PROVE anything is not true?

Well a great deal of it demonstrably isn't. Contradictions and inaccuracies all over the place.

Once again, you are going to have to PROVE it. Your comments and claims alone are worthless.

I already did. Read back.

We've seen and read you before with your childish understanding of 'proof'. You have an awfully ignorant and juvenile understanding of the concept.

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Reply #454 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:39pm

mitasol wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

Religion was invented to explain the inexplicable at a time when scientific research was not at the level that it is today. Somewhere along the line a bunch of twats decided that they could use it to control the masses, viz the inquisition -

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!

Surely we are now at a stage where the theatre of religion is no longer needed

Not even remotely true.

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Reply #455 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:42pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:51am:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:40pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:20pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

____ wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:19pm:

Paul Ehrlich on qanda

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/coming_up.htm#PAUL_EHRLICH

Stated teaching children fictional religions is child abuse.

So why is this child abuse acceptable?

I totally agree.

It should be a criminal offence for adults to teach impressionable children that those parts of the bible which deal in fantasy are true.

Social ethics, values, and morality are something quite distinct from religious belief. The one does not inextricably depend upon the other as those with an emotional or political investment in religion would have you believe.

In fact religion's main purpose has always been to give certain people authority and power over other people. The priesthood was the very first profession - not prostitution as many would have you believe.

How do you propose to PROVE anything is not true?

Well a great deal of it demonstrably isn't. Contradictions and inaccuracies all over the place.

Once again, you are going to have to PROVE it. Your comments and claims alone are worthless.

I already did. Read back.

We've seen and read you before with your childish understanding of 'proof'. You have an awfully ignorant and juvenile understanding of the concept.

This coming from the person who has provided not one bit of proof for an entire thread that wa from a secular historian and failed to qualify your claim of eyewitnesses.

I provided proof. Go back and find it. I'd like to see you refute anything i copied in.

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Reply #456 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:44pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:23pm:

mitasol wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

Religion was invented to explain the inexplicable at a time when scientific research was not at the level that it is today. Somewhere along the line a bunch of twats decided that they could use it to control the masses, viz the inquisition -

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!

Surely we are now at a stage where the theatre of religion is no longer needed

That's a moot point.

Needless to say, religion is the drug of choice for most people, and as an addictive recreational activity it undoubtedly carries with it certain therapeutic benefits.

Where I differ from the mob is that I am dead set against this form of mind-game being thrust upon the suggestible minds of the very young.

Have you ever considered that you might be completely wrong? Ever considered there might actually be a God? That would make you a bit of a fool, wouldn't it?

Do you think that you would be a fool if you were wrong Maria? Is that the binary way in which you think? One side is being foolish?

Because the weight of evidence suggests it's you.

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Reply #457 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:21pm

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:42pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 7:51am:

mothra wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:40pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:20pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

____ wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:19pm:

Paul Ehrlich on qanda

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/coming_up.htm#PAUL_EHRLICH

Stated teaching children fictional religions is child abuse.

So why is this child abuse acceptable?

I totally agree.

It should be a criminal offence for adults to teach impressionable children that those parts of the bible which deal in fantasy are true.

Social ethics, values, and morality are something quite distinct from religious belief. The one does not inextricably depend upon the other as those with an emotional or political investment in religion would have you believe.

In fact religion's main purpose has always been to give certain people authority and power over other people. The priesthood was the very first profession - not prostitution as many would have you believe.

How do you propose to PROVE anything is not true?

Well a great deal of it demonstrably isn't. Contradictions and inaccuracies all over the place.

Once again, you are going to have to PROVE it. Your comments and claims alone are worthless.

I already did. Read back.

We've seen and read you before with your childish understanding of 'proof'. You have an awfully ignorant and juvenile understanding of the concept.

This coming from the person who has provided not one bit of proof for an entire thread that wa from a secular historian and failed to qualify your claim of eyewitnesses.

I provided proof. Go back and find it. I'd like to see you refute anything i copied in.

hmmm.... why should proof come from a 'secular historian' assuming you can even determine who is and isn't 'secular'? Like Stratos you come to the debate with an agenda, but unfortunately both of you leave your intellectual integrity behind. John's Gospel is an eye-witness account and nobody really debates that. Stratos however things that because he waited decades to write it, it somehow becomes no long an eye-witness account.

You have zero idea of what evidence of proof mean. You take your own opinion, wrap it up in gullibility and ignorance and then serve it up on a plate and wonder why people think it is crap instead.

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Reply #458 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:23pm

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:23pm:

mitasol wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

Religion was invented to explain the inexplicable at a time when scientific research was not at the level that it is today. Somewhere along the line a bunch of twats decided that they could use it to control the masses, viz the inquisition -

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!

Surely we are now at a stage where the theatre of religion is no longer needed

That's a moot point.

Needless to say, religion is the drug of choice for most people, and as an addictive recreational activity it undoubtedly carries with it certain therapeutic benefits.

Where I differ from the mob is that I am dead set against this form of mind-game being thrust upon the suggestible minds of the very young.

Have you ever considered that you might be completely wrong? Ever considered there might actually be a God? That would make you a bit of a fool, wouldn't it?

Do you think that you would be a fool if you were wrong Maria? Is that the binary way in which you think? One side is being foolish?

Because the weight of evidence suggests it's you.

If YOU think that YOU disprove the existence of God then go for it. You would be the first.

HINT: Proof is the big boys definition of proof, meaning absence or error and other big words you trip up over.

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Reply #459 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:26pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Have you ever considered that you might be completely wrong? Ever considered there might actually be a God?

There might actually be purple unicorns living in your garden, too.

However, there's as much proof to substantiate that claim as there is to prove the existence of a God.

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Reply #460 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:30pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:23pm:

mitasol wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

Religion was invented to explain the inexplicable at a time when scientific research was not at the level that it is today. Somewhere along the line a bunch of twats decided that they could use it to control the masses, viz the inquisition -

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!

Surely we are now at a stage where the theatre of religion is no longer needed

That's a moot point.

Needless to say, religion is the drug of choice for most people, and as an addictive recreational activity it undoubtedly carries with it certain therapeutic benefits.

Where I differ from the mob is that I am dead set against this form of mind-game being thrust upon the suggestible minds of the very young.

Have you ever considered that you might be completely wrong? Ever considered there might actually be a God? That would make you a bit of a fool, wouldn't it?

Do you think that you would be a fool if you were wrong Maria? Is that the binary way in which you think? One side is being foolish?

Because the weight of evidence suggests it's you.

If YOU think that YOU disprove the existence of God then go for it. You would be the first.

HINT: Proof is the big boys definition of proof, meaning absence or error and other big words you trip up over.

Where did i even remotely suggest that i could disprove the existence of God Maria? You really shouldn't just make things up.

I said i could prove that the the Bible is filled with inconsistencies and inaccuracies. I did, You haven't challenged any of the points i raised and now, backed into a corner, you are being just nasty again.

Very Chiristian-like.

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Reply #461 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:37pm

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:30pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:23pm:

mitasol wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

Religion was invented to explain the inexplicable at a time when scientific research was not at the level that it is today. Somewhere along the line a bunch of twats decided that they could use it to control the masses, viz the inquisition -

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms—oh damn!

Surely we are now at a stage where the theatre of religion is no longer needed

That's a moot point.

Needless to say, religion is the drug of choice for most people, and as an addictive recreational activity it undoubtedly carries with it certain therapeutic benefits.

Where I differ from the mob is that I am dead set against this form of mind-game being thrust upon the suggestible minds of the very young.

Have you ever considered that you might be completely wrong? Ever considered there might actually be a God? That would make you a bit of a fool, wouldn't it?

Do you think that you would be a fool if you were wrong Maria? Is that the binary way in which you think? One side is being foolish?

Because the weight of evidence suggests it's you.

If YOU think that YOU disprove the existence of God then go for it. You would be the first.

HINT: Proof is the big boys definition of proof, meaning absence or error and other big words you trip up over.

Where did i even remotely suggest that i could disprove the existence of God Maria? You really shouldn't just make things up.

I said i could prove that the the Bible is filled with inconsistencies and inaccuracies. I did, You haven't challenged any of the points i raised and now, backed into a corner, you are being just nasty again.

Very Chiristian-like.

If you cannot disprove the existence of God then clearly you cannot discount His existence - which was the point I was trying to make. Apparently, you finally worked it out.

I have challenged all your points quite successfully, but you simply refuse to accept any explanations, any evidence or proofs, because you have a narrative to support.

The Bible says that when you seek for truth you will find it. Conversely, if you refuse to accept truth then you will never find it. You are the latter.

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Reply #463 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:42pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:37pm:

I have challenged all your points quite successfully, but you simply refuse to accept any explanations, any evidence or proofs, because you have a narrative to support.

No. You haven't. Not a one.

This thread has been a spectacular exercise in dodging verification by you. You've made all of these preposterous claims and not backed up a single one of them.

And i have no narrative to suport Maria. You do though, And you are doing a very poor job of supporting it.

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Reply #464 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:45pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 6:37pm:

The Bible says that when you seek for truth you will find it. Conversely, if you refuse to accept truth then you will never find it. You are the latter.

So because i haven't found your 'truth' Maria, i'm what then? Damned?

Is that why you treat people with such disrespect? Because you think they're damned anyway? Are you as rude to other Christians as you are to people on here?

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