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Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse.
Reply #60 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:03pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 11:54am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 11:27am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 11:21am:

I feel sorry for people who dont have a spiritual side.

you assume, wrongly, that those that don't believe in god aren't spiritual ... I think you can be both.

Every time I walk out in the warm sun, every time I hear the sound of the waves crashing on the beach, every time I feel the caress of a beautiful woman, its a spiritual experience.

I don't need to believe in fairy tales to be spiritual. Wink

You spiritual Grin

you are sorely deluded.

maybe, but you'll always be an idiot.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #61 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:10pm

____ wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Ajax wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 11:47am:

____ wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:58am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:16am:

Kytro wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 9:58am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 8:15am:

Now if you can PROVE Christianity wrong then you have a point, but until that time you have to accept that perhaps it is true and it is YOU than needs to have kids taken away from.

There is no more perhaps it is true than any other religion, including things like Scientology. There are many specific claims the religion makes that are almost certainly not true.

The entire basis for the religion is completely unreasonable in any case. It's rather clear why people believe it and how it came to be prominent.

There is not a single good reason to believe the supernatural claims the religion makes.

Nor any proof to debunk it either. That is why in matters of religion we give FREEDOM - something Greens apparently does not support.

So you support mutilating children's sexual organs on the grounds of religious freedom.

You're confusing tribal rituals with religion.

Tribal rituals are religion.

Are they..........????......LMFAO...... Roll Eyes

I think you better find out the meaning of both these words.

1. Tribal ritual
2. Religion

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105601 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #62 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:18pm
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Reply #64 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:32pm

Ajax wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:10pm:

____ wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Ajax wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 11:47am:

____ wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:58am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:16am:

Kytro wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 9:58am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 8:15am:

Now if you can PROVE Christianity wrong then you have a point, but until that time you have to accept that perhaps it is true and it is YOU than needs to have kids taken away from.

There is no more perhaps it is true than any other religion, including things like Scientology. There are many specific claims the religion makes that are almost certainly not true.

The entire basis for the religion is completely unreasonable in any case. It's rather clear why people believe it and how it came to be prominent.

There is not a single good reason to believe the supernatural claims the religion makes.

Nor any proof to debunk it either. That is why in matters of religion we give FREEDOM - something Greens apparently does not support.

So you support mutilating children's sexual organs on the grounds of religious freedom.

You're confusing tribal rituals with religion.

Tribal rituals are religion.

Are they..........????......LMFAO...... Roll Eyes

I think you better find out the meaning of both these words.

1. Tribal ritual
2. Religion

Circumcision.

elective surgery performed on neonates and children for religious and cultural reasons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

And now we have gone full circle and are back at mutilating children's sexual organs because of religion.

My original question is still waiting on an answer.

This religious enforcement onto children, is it child abuse?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105601 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #65 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:06pm Ajax wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:22pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:18pm: I bet when George is on his death bed he'll think of God. He's already dead.
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Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse.
Reply #66 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 11:21am:

I feel sorry for people who dont have a spiritual side.

You mean religious side

explaining spirituality to a zealous aetheist is like explaining an orgasm to a virgin.

you mean explaining religion to an athiest

they will never understand until they experience it and they live a mediocre life until they do.

i suppose at least theyve got ebay and facebook to make their lives meaningful Wink

How pitiful Wink

If you have been exposed to the great teachings of the worlds spiritual geniuses and you choose to ignore the ancient teachings

name them

you have...

Messed Up Wink

Being spiritual and being religious is two very different things.

Spiritual people are grounded, they are extremely sensitive to their soul and mind. They take time out to meditate in order to free themselves from excesses. They let go of their ego and embrace humanity as one. They strive to be in sync with wisdom, nature and the living world around them.

Spiritual people don't have any particular god but they are free to choose their god.....the god of their own understanding.

Religious people follow an unseen god through faith and instructions written in their selective guidebooks.

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Reply #67 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:24pm

____ wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:32pm:

Circumcision.

elective surgery performed on neonates and children for religious and cultural reasons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

And now we have gone full circle and are back at mutilating children's sexual organs because of religion.

My original question is still waiting on an answer.

This religious enforcement onto children, is it child abuse?

There is no place in the bible where it says males should be circumcised.

This is a ritual practiced by Jews who also introduced it to Muslims and other north African peoples.

I'm Orthodox basically I pray to the same God that Jews and Muslims pray to yet I'm not circumcised.

Its a ritual thing developed in tribes not by religion.

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #69 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:32pm ____ wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:32pm: This religious enforcement onto children, is it child abuse? Like I said if nothing else it teaches them respect and right from wrong. Things that grow the character not inhibit it.
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Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse.
Reply #70 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:34pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:44am:

Many people get regularly lied to by their pastors (like I was) about the historical reliability of Jesus. I was really quite shocked when I started looking into it myself, and was a big part of why I started questioning my faith.

I don't think they do it on purpose, just that they repeat what they were told without investigating. Not a single piece of evidence from when Jesus was supposed to have lived even exists, it's quite remarkable. As always I'm happy to be proven wrong on this.

They don't like you to question them. They expect you to believe what they tell you through faith. The clergy take it personally if you doubt their teachings, like they are the ones that made that sh1t up.

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10982 Australia Gender:	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #71 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:34pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:06pm: Ajax wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:22pm: Bobby. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:18pm: I bet when George is on his death bed he'll think of God. He's already dead. DOOHHH, my bad may he RIP.
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Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse.
Reply #72 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:50pm

Ajax wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:24pm:

____ wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:32pm:

Circumcision.

elective surgery performed on neonates and children for religious and cultural reasons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

And now we have gone full circle and are back at mutilating children's sexual organs because of religion.

My original question is still waiting on an answer.

This religious enforcement onto children, is it child abuse?

There is no place in the bible where it says males should be circumcised.

This is a ritual practiced by Jews who also introduced it to Muslims and other north African peoples.

I'm Orthodox basically I pray to the same God that Jews and Muslims pray to yet I'm not circumcised.

Its a ritual thing developed in tribes not by religion.

http://s9.postimg.org/x33u3yb1r/circ.jpg

Yet that isn't the debate.

Circumcision and other forms of mutilations forced onto children on religious grounds is child abuse.

Yes or no.

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Kytro Gold Member Offline Blasphemy: a victimless crime Posts: 3409 Adelaide Gender:	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #73 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:53pm Ajax wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:22pm: I bet when George is on his death bed he'll think of God. I have always wondered why people think this. Death may be something that some people fear, but that does not mean they will just change their entire viewpoint.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Religious Teaching Is Child Abuse. Reply #74 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:58pm Ajax wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 1:32pm: Like I said if nothing else it teaches them respect and right from wrong. Most religions don't do a great job of teaching respect OR right from wrong if you are doing it strictly. I mean, first commandment, bam, you'll be punished for thought crime.
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