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Reply #15 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:00pm

Where's your badge Motheaten?

I didn't take any notice of the gender symbol

Not that that should matter

20 yrs old is not a kid

She's been voting for 2 yrs

The info was readily given

But the " neveeeeeeer heard of them"

When she's actively using the Internet

Is just silly.

As silly as talking to a manager about Unions.

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Reply #17 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:03pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Also: they never talked to us about unions. I don't even know if there is one that'll take us.

The SDA, or United Voice.

Neeeeeeeeever heard of them. I have another shift tomorrow and I plan on asking the manager that's training me, she seems like an actual human.

how old did you say you were?

If you're stupid enough to ask a manager about Union membership then you won't be employed long.

Try googling the references to Unions you've been given, if you can find your way in here you can surely do that....

Then you will have heard of them Roll Eyes

Talk to mangers about Unions at your own peril.

Sometimes I wonder Roll Eyes

This is my first job and no one has ever given me any information about them, pardon me for not being born with innate knowledge of how unions work :| I didn't realise that being ignorant on something (and trying to learn more about it btw) made me stupid; if anything I always thought that owning your ignorance and trying to learn better was a sign of maturity and intelligence. Didn't realise I was wrong -- thank you, random person on the internet; I never would have known how stupid I am if it weren't for you. Thank you for your kind understanding and maturity, there was clearly no better way for you to say what you said.

wow.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29822 Gender:	Re: On The Run - One Of SA Biggest Employers Reply #18 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:08pm mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:02pm: Oh i seeeeeee. You are just an arsehole. And you're another.
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Reply #19 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:09pm

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Also: they never talked to us about unions. I don't even know if there is one that'll take us.

The SDA, or United Voice.

Neeeeeeeeever heard of them. I have another shift tomorrow and I plan on asking the manager that's training me, she seems like an actual human.

how old did you say you were?

If you're stupid enough to ask a manager about Union membership then you won't be employed long.

Try googling the references to Unions you've been given, if you can find your way in here you can surely do that....

Then you will have heard of them Roll Eyes

Talk to mangers about Unions at your own peril.

Sometimes I wonder Roll Eyes

This is my first job and no one has ever given me any information about them, pardon me for not being born with innate knowledge of how unions work :| I didn't realise that being ignorant on something (and trying to learn more about it btw) made me stupid; if anything I always thought that owning your ignorance and trying to learn better was a sign of maturity and intelligence. Didn't realise I was wrong -- thank you, random person on the internet; I never would have known how stupid I am if it weren't for you. Thank you for your kind understanding and maturity, there was clearly no better way for you to say what you said.

wow.

Don;t worry about him Nifty. All the sensitivity of a barracuda.

My best suggestion is follow up the leads Greg gave you.

.. and it's not a good idea to talk to your boss about unions, however cool they seem.

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: On The Run - One Of SA Biggest Employers Reply #20 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm There will be some bemused residents of SA when they discover that On the Run is on of the 'biggest employers'!!!
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Reply #21 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:15pm

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Also: they never talked to us about unions. I don't even know if there is one that'll take us.

The SDA, or United Voice.

Neeeeeeeeever heard of them. I have another shift tomorrow and I plan on asking the manager that's training me, she seems like an actual human.

how old did you say you were?

If you're stupid enough to ask a manager about Union membership then you won't be employed long.

Try googling the references to Unions you've been given, if you can find your way in here you can surely do that....

Then you will have heard of them Roll Eyes

Talk to mangers about Unions at your own peril.

Sometimes I wonder Roll Eyes

This is my first job and no one has ever given me any information about them, pardon me for not being born with innate knowledge of how unions work :| I didn't realise that being ignorant on something (and trying to learn more about it btw) made me stupid; if anything I always thought that owning your ignorance and trying to learn better was a sign of maturity and intelligence. Didn't realise I was wrong -- thank you, random person on the internet; I never would have known how stupid I am if it weren't for you. Thank you for your kind understanding and maturity, there was clearly no better way for you to say what you said.

wow.

Don't you have family?

Mother, father, sister , brother, uncles, aunts etc who have been in the workforce?

Before you go asking advice of "random" people on the internet why don't you consult with those closest to you?

Like I said you have the skills to use this medium then use it properly and cut the feigned indignation at being told that talking to a manager of a business that obviously exploits it staff about Unions is being silly/ stupid or call it what you want ... Naivity etc.

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Reply #22 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:18pm

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Also: they never talked to us about unions. I don't even know if there is one that'll take us.

The SDA, or United Voice.

Neeeeeeeeever heard of them. I have another shift tomorrow and I plan on asking the manager that's training me, she seems like an actual human.

how old did you say you were?

If you're stupid enough to ask a manager about Union membership then you won't be employed long.

Try googling the references to Unions you've been given, if you can find your way in here you can surely do that....

Then you will have heard of them Roll Eyes

Talk to mangers about Unions at your own peril.

Sometimes I wonder Roll Eyes

This is my first job and no one has ever given me any information about them, pardon me for not being born with innate knowledge of how unions work :| I didn't realise that being ignorant on something (and trying to learn more about it btw) made me stupid; if anything I always thought that owning your ignorance and trying to learn better was a sign of maturity and intelligence. Didn't realise I was wrong -- thank you, random person on the internet; I never would have known how stupid I am if it weren't for you. Thank you for your kind understanding and maturity, there was clearly no better way for you to say what you said.

wow.

Don;t worry about him Nifty. All the sensitivity of a barracuda.

My best suggestion is follow up the leads Greg gave you.

.. and it's not a good idea to talk to your boss about unions, however cool they seem.

I definitely got that impression. If you have to get your kicks by being a jerk towards someone that's trying to make sense of something that is INCREDIBLY confusing, you must have a pretty dull life. He should take up a hobby, I hear pottery is nice and soothing.

Yeah I will, thanks -- already having a look. (thanks to G. Pecc too, you're a lamb <3)

I suppose not. I dunno, I just assume that knowledge should be readily available to those that seek it and without consequence. I guess I just expect a little more empathy from people than I'm going to realistically get. Maybe I'm naive, or just a noob to this whole adult thing; perhaps both.

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Reply #23 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm

mothra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Also: they never talked to us about unions. I don't even know if there is one that'll take us.

The SDA, or United Voice.

Neeeeeeeeever heard of them. I have another shift tomorrow and I plan on asking the manager that's training me, she seems like an actual human.

how old did you say you were?

If you're stupid enough to ask a manager about Union membership then you won't be employed long.

Try googling the references to Unions you've been given, if you can find your way in here you can surely do that....

Then you will have heard of them Roll Eyes

Talk to mangers about Unions at your own peril.

Sometimes I wonder Roll Eyes

This is my first job and no one has ever given me any information about them, pardon me for not being born with innate knowledge of how unions work :| I didn't realise that being ignorant on something (and trying to learn more about it btw) made me stupid; if anything I always thought that owning your ignorance and trying to learn better was a sign of maturity and intelligence. Didn't realise I was wrong -- thank you, random person on the internet; I never would have known how stupid I am if it weren't for you. Thank you for your kind understanding and maturity, there was clearly no better way for you to say what you said.

wow.

Don;t worry about him Nifty. All the sensitivity of a barracuda.

My best suggestion is follow up the leads Greg gave you.

.. and it's not a good idea to talk to your boss about unions, however cool they seem.

That's what I said .. Albeit not in a precious manner

The real world sucks & wrapping our youth in bubble wrap & protecting them from its harsh realities doesn't work.

welcome to it Nifty Bear Kiss

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Reply #24 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:25pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

Don't you have family?

Mother, father, sister , brother, uncles, aunts etc who have been in the workforce?

Before you go asking advice of "random" people on the internet why don't you consult with those closest to you?

Like I said you have the skills to use this medium then use it properly and cut the feigned indignation at being told that talking to a manager of a business that obviously exploits it staff about Unions is being silly/ stupid or call it what you want ... Naivity etc.

Oh get your hand off it Gnads. She's probably known she actually has the job for all of 3 days and asking about union membership on day 1 of working is well within the confines of sensible.

Don't you think it's more interesting that somebody should have to go out of their way to find out about a union?

This thread is on the company that employed Nifty. Today. She sees a thread on it. Of course she's going to use if as a source of information.

I hold less issue with you calling her naive than stupid but i still think you're being harsh. Don't you remember your first job?

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Reply #25 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:27pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Don;t worry about him Nifty. All the sensitivity of a barracuda.

My best suggestion is follow up the leads Greg gave you.

.. and it's not a good idea to talk to your boss about unions, however cool they seem.

That's what I said .. Albeit not in a precious manner

The real world sucks & wrapping our youth in bubble wrap & protecting them from its harsh realities doesn't work.

welcome to it Nifty Bear Kiss

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You were an arsehole. There was no need to be an arsehole.

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Reply #26 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:30pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Also: they never talked to us about unions. I don't even know if there is one that'll take us.

The SDA, or United Voice.

Neeeeeeeeever heard of them. I have another shift tomorrow and I plan on asking the manager that's training me, she seems like an actual human.

how old did you say you were?

If you're stupid enough to ask a manager about Union membership then you won't be employed long.

Try googling the references to Unions you've been given, if you can find your way in here you can surely do that....

Then you will have heard of them Roll Eyes

Talk to mangers about Unions at your own peril.

Sometimes I wonder Roll Eyes

This is my first job and no one has ever given me any information about them, pardon me for not being born with innate knowledge of how unions work :| I didn't realise that being ignorant on something (and trying to learn more about it btw) made me stupid; if anything I always thought that owning your ignorance and trying to learn better was a sign of maturity and intelligence. Didn't realise I was wrong -- thank you, random person on the internet; I never would have known how stupid I am if it weren't for you. Thank you for your kind understanding and maturity, there was clearly no better way for you to say what you said.

wow.

Don't you have family?

Mother, father, sister , brother, uncles, aunts etc who have been in the workforce?

Before you go asking advice of "random" people on the internet why don't you consult with those closest to you?

Like I said you have the skills to use this medium then use it properly and cut the feigned indignation at being told that talking to a manager of a business that obviously exploits it staff about Unions is being silly/ stupid or call it what you want ... Naivity etc.

I dunno, maybe my remaining immediate remaining family members haven't worked in a long time so their knowledge might be out of date? Maybe my family life isn't great? Maybe I thought someone on here might have some better knowledge? Maybe I simply find it easier to use the internet rather than ask someone I know? Maybe I didn't know if my family would have the answers I need? Maybe I struggle to ask for help from family members and friends, but find it easier to ask people I do not and never will know personally? Maybe I'm not from this country and have no one here to ask? Maybe I'm Batman and have no living relatives, and Alfred is going senile and can't answer my questions? Not that I'd ever tell you, you don't deserve to know.

Point is, you didn't need to be an asshole about it. A simple "I wouldn't recommend asking a manager, that could come back to bite you in the ass" would have sufficed -- save you coming across as a jerk at the very least.

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Reply #27 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:41pm

Yes I remember well.

I started my first one when I was 16

Only lasted a few weeks ... Paid $1 an hour

Wanted me to work 12 hrs shifts over Xmas for the same money

I quit after picking up my pay after I had Xmas off.

I had 2 other short stints .... One in the Forestry where I was approached to join a Union in the first week.... Had I stayed I would have joined

The other at a sawmill where I was approached on starting by the mill foreman to join a Union which I did.

I left after 3 months to start in the Railways where I have been for the past 42 years & a Union rep for 25 of those years.

And yes I may have been harsh... But being flippant in making enquiries after the info has been given by 2 parties grates my gears.

Going into the workforce isn't a game & family/ extended family advice can be very helpful & I would have thought freely given.

Talking to strangers on the Internet isn't the only life experience to seek .. Or for today's youth is it?

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Reply #28 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:49pm

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:30pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

The Niftiest Bear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Also: they never talked to us about unions. I don't even know if there is one that'll take us.

The SDA, or United Voice.

Neeeeeeeeever heard of them. I have another shift tomorrow and I plan on asking the manager that's training me, she seems like an actual human.

how old did you say you were?

If you're stupid enough to ask a manager about Union membership then you won't be employed long.

Try googling the references to Unions you've been given, if you can find your way in here you can surely do that....

Then you will have heard of them Roll Eyes

Talk to mangers about Unions at your own peril.

Sometimes I wonder Roll Eyes

This is my first job and no one has ever given me any information about them, pardon me for not being born with innate knowledge of how unions work :| I didn't realise that being ignorant on something (and trying to learn more about it btw) made me stupid; if anything I always thought that owning your ignorance and trying to learn better was a sign of maturity and intelligence. Didn't realise I was wrong -- thank you, random person on the internet; I never would have known how stupid I am if it weren't for you. Thank you for your kind understanding and maturity, there was clearly no better way for you to say what you said.

wow.

Don't you have family?

Mother, father, sister , brother, uncles, aunts etc who have been in the workforce?

Before you go asking advice of "random" people on the internet why don't you consult with those closest to you?

Like I said you have the skills to use this medium then use it properly and cut the feigned indignation at being told that talking to a manager of a business that obviously exploits it staff about Unions is being silly/ stupid or call it what you want ... Naivity etc.

I dunno, maybe my remaining immediate remaining family members haven't worked in a long time so their knowledge might be out of date? Maybe my family life isn't great? Maybe I thought someone on here might have some better knowledge? Maybe I simply find it easier to use the internet rather than ask someone I know? Maybe I didn't know if my family would have the answers I need? Maybe I struggle to ask for help from family members and friends, but find it easier to ask people I do not and never will know personally? Maybe I'm not from this country and have no one here to ask? Maybe I'm Batman and have no living relatives, and Alfred is going senile and can't answer my questions? Not that I'd ever tell you, you don't deserve to know.

Point is, you didn't need to be an asshole about it. A simple "I wouldn't recommend asking a manager, that could come back to bite you in the ass" would have sufficed -- save you coming across as a jerk at the very least.

I didn't tell you want to do... I advised the Union that could assist you...

You played the silly flippant ... I responded in kind.

You seem well versed in repartee in this medium, so much so that I think you're just playing games.

Btw I wouldn't take your advice re: a hobby nor will I respond to you or any other person how they think I should have responded or how they wanted.

Life is full of bitter disappointment

Best of luck ... You'll need it or a shrink. Maybe? Grin

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Reply #29 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 6:02pm

They managed to get thousands of dollars in back pay for underpaid Subway workers lol!

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