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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: 72% Of Libs ~ Humans Are Not Responsible Reply #15 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:35am Greens still can't produce evidence so it's all a moot point. NEXT!!!
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Reply #16 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:35am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:32am:

Greens can't produce the evidence. Back under your rock boy

It's you who couldn't find any evidence and then wants everyone else to bow and scrape to your demands.

Life in the real world isn't like your family home where screaming gets your mum and third dad running to your beck and call.

Show the evidence or go search for it.

Your trolling will now be ignored.

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Reply #17 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:39am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

My intuition is that climate change is real.

My intuition is that there is nothing that can be done at a political level.

My intuition is that we just need to prepare to live in a "changed" planet.

Not a problem,

as a student of self development, change is seen as a goal to strive for, chaos is to be embraced.
There will be winners and losers.

just understand that reality and prepare for it like a good boy scout .

Dont make a little cry baby movie about it getting hotter and drier, put in the effort to adapt.

The default position of every species that doesnt adapt is failure.

If any country should welcome climate change it is australia as we have so many natural resources.
Chinese students visiting my place couldnt believe i have a river you can see the bottom of and drink the water out of.

Truly a blessing and with climate change , it will only become more valuable.

we can become the food bowl of a barren wasteland in asia and europe and be like the saudis with our rich resources of unspoilt water and land.

Bring it on Wink

Good grief. Australia is the most vulnerable to the effects of AGW! His imaginary creek would dry out, is drying out if it is in the southern half of the country. Cheesy

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Reply #18 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:39am

Don't even bother engaging with them Greens. They are paid LNP astroturfers designed to derail debate.

Either way.

This does show a huge issue with the LNP, as much as people like to pretend Turnbull is a progressive the fact that 72% of Libs are in the pocket of big energy shows that have no intention ever of actually fighting climate change or moving into the green sector, the fastest growing industrial sector in the world.

What I find strange is this mass climate change denialism from these reactionaries seems to be quite unique to Anglo countries, Right wing Governments across Europe, Middle East, Asia etc are jumping on renewables. What makes Anglo countries unique in its mass denialism?

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Reply #20 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:46am

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:39am:

What I find strange is this mass climate change denialism from these reactionaries seems to be quite unique to Anglo countries, Right wing Governments across Europe, Middle East, Asia etc are jumping on renewables. What makes Anglo countries unique in its mass denialism?

Everything with context when it comes to their action

I'd be happy to discuss each example in context of their country of origin

But lets first peruse the agreement that started all this in 1991 - Kyoto Agreement. Lets look at the basis for that agreement

This is why I asked for a list of carbon emission sources and the percentage contributions of each

Where do humans rank on that list?

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Reply #21 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:46am

____ wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

My intuition is that climate change is real.

My intuition is that there is nothing that can be done at a political level.

My intuition is that we just need to prepare to live in a "changed" planet.

Not a problem,

as a student of self development, change is seen as a goal to strive for, chaos is to be embraced.
There will be winners and losers.

just understand that reality and prepare for it like a good boy scout .

Dont make a little cry baby movie about it getting hotter and drier, put in the effort to adapt.

The default position of every species that doesnt adapt is failure.

If any country should welcome climate change it is australia as we have so many natural resources.
Chinese students visiting my place couldnt believe i have a river you can see the bottom of and drink the water out of.

Truly a blessing and with climate change , it will only become more valuable.

we can become the food bowl of a barren wasteland in asia and europe and be like the saudis with our rich resources of unspoilt water and land.

Bring it on Wink

Oh wise one. How is Australia to be a food bowl to asia, when we no longer have any top soil. The fertile soil loss increased due to deforestation, farming practices, and increasing extreme weather events.

Are we to export fungi grown underground. since due to the heat above ground, is now no longer inhabitable.

Best farmers in the world.
Asia (for example india ) has a billion people who directly rely on the melt from the himalayas.
they will be loving my water.
China has relinquished its one child policy.
They will be loving our clean food as their land and waterways are becoming more and more toxic.

Just keep our population down.
Let the farmers get on with it.
Build a few dams.

Our land is so under utilised. there are 3 million feral goats in qld alone , and 10 million roos.
thats a lot of protein just running about untapped. Wink

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Reply #22 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:47am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:46am:

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:39am:

What I find strange is this mass climate change denialism from these reactionaries seems to be quite unique to Anglo countries, Right wing Governments across Europe, Middle East, Asia etc are jumping on renewables. What makes Anglo countries unique in its mass denialism?

Everything with context when it comes to their action

I'd be happy to discuss each example in context of their country of origin

But lets first peruse the agreement that started all this in 1991 - Kyoto Agreement. Lets look at the basis for that agreement

This is why I asked for a list of carbon emission sources and the percentage contributions of each

Where do humans rank on that list?

Don't care.

This discussion doesn't involve you.
Cheerio.

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Reply #23 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:50am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:39am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

My intuition is that climate change is real.

My intuition is that there is nothing that can be done at a political level.

My intuition is that we just need to prepare to live in a "changed" planet.

Not a problem,

as a student of self development, change is seen as a goal to strive for, chaos is to be embraced.
There will be winners and losers.

just understand that reality and prepare for it like a good boy scout .

Dont make a little cry baby movie about it getting hotter and drier, put in the effort to adapt.

The default position of every species that doesnt adapt is failure.

If any country should welcome climate change it is australia as we have so many natural resources.
Chinese students visiting my place couldnt believe i have a river you can see the bottom of and drink the water out of.

Truly a blessing and with climate change , it will only become more valuable.

we can become the food bowl of a barren wasteland in asia and europe and be like the saudis with our rich resources of unspoilt water and land.

Bring it on Wink

Good grief. Australia is the most vulnerable to the effects of AGW! His imaginary creek would dry out, is drying out if it is in the southern half of the country. Cheesy

my creek (actually its a river) runs directly out of a national park on the coast and i can tell you, it is getting more water in it every year.

why does this surprise anyone.

if we warm up the climate, then the sub tropical coast, will become like the tropical coast.
Tully in the tropics is the wettest place in australia.
In 20 years brisbane should be recieivng tully level rains as it has the same ranges to the west.

we will need to build cyclone proof housing and more dams

bring it on

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Reply #24 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:51am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:08am:

Show me top 10 carbon emission sources

Then break it down in percentage terms how much each source contribute

Maqqa wants to believe volcanoes emit the most CO2. They don’t, our burning of fossil fuels does.

Where did I say "mostly"

In fact the carbon emissions depends on the activity of the volcano

I just want a list showing the top 10 carbon emission sources and where humans rank on that list

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Reply #25 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:51am

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:47am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:46am:

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:39am:

What I find strange is this mass climate change denialism from these reactionaries seems to be quite unique to Anglo countries, Right wing Governments across Europe, Middle East, Asia etc are jumping on renewables. What makes Anglo countries unique in its mass denialism?

Everything with context when it comes to their action

I'd be happy to discuss each example in context of their country of origin

But lets first peruse the agreement that started all this in 1991 - Kyoto Agreement. Lets look at the basis for that agreement

This is why I asked for a list of carbon emission sources and the percentage contributions of each

Where do humans rank on that list?

Don't care.

This discussion doesn't involve you.
Cheerio.

Run away little boy

Make a statement then run away

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Reply #26 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:52am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:51am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:08am:

Show me top 10 carbon emission sources

Then break it down in percentage terms how much each source contribute

Maqqa wants to believe volcanoes emit the most CO2. They don’t, our burning of fossil fuels does.

Where did I say "mostly"

In fact the carbon emissions depends on the activity of the volcano

I just want a list showing the top 10 carbon emission sources and where humans rank on that list

Mostly is what you want to say. That has been shown as not true.

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Reply #27 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:54am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:52am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:51am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:40am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:08am:

Show me top 10 carbon emission sources

Then break it down in percentage terms how much each source contribute

Maqqa wants to believe volcanoes emit the most CO2. They don’t, our burning of fossil fuels does.

Where did I say "mostly"

In fact the carbon emissions depends on the activity of the volcano

I just want a list showing the top 10 carbon emission sources and where humans rank on that list

Mostly is what you want to say. That has been shown as not true.

So now you are pre-empting what I want to say

Well here's what I am saying

Show me a top 10 list of all carbon emission sources and where humans rank on that list

There's nothing in that sentence that says or suggest anything about mostly carbon emission in a volcano

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Reply #28 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:13am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:46am:

____ wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

My intuition is that climate change is real.

My intuition is that there is nothing that can be done at a political level.

My intuition is that we just need to prepare to live in a "changed" planet.

Not a problem,

as a student of self development, change is seen as a goal to strive for, chaos is to be embraced.
There will be winners and losers.

just understand that reality and prepare for it like a good boy scout .

Dont make a little cry baby movie about it getting hotter and drier, put in the effort to adapt.

The default position of every species that doesnt adapt is failure.

If any country should welcome climate change it is australia as we have so many natural resources.
Chinese students visiting my place couldnt believe i have a river you can see the bottom of and drink the water out of.

Truly a blessing and with climate change , it will only become more valuable.

we can become the food bowl of a barren wasteland in asia and europe and be like the saudis with our rich resources of unspoilt water and land.

Bring it on Wink

Oh wise one. How is Australia to be a food bowl to asia, when we no longer have any top soil. The fertile soil loss increased due to deforestation, farming practices, and increasing extreme weather events.

Are we to export fungi grown underground. since due to the heat above ground, is now no longer inhabitable.

Best farmers in the world.
Asia (for example india ) has a billion people who directly rely on the melt from the himalayas.
they will be loving my water.
China has relinquished its one child policy.
They will be loving our clean food as their land and waterways are becoming more and more toxic.

Just keep our population down.
Let the farmers get on with it.
Build a few dams.

Our land is so under utilised. there are 3 million feral goats in qld alone , and 10 million roos.
thats a lot of protein just running about untapped. Wink

Yet you ran away from my question. Your suggestion on how Australia will adapt to having no fertile top soil due to the increased loss of it from extreme weather caused from human activity.

You say adaption is the key. So explain. How o Australian farmers farm without topsoil?

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Reply #29 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:18am

____ wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:20am:

Swagman wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:10am:

____ wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:05am:

A majority of Liberal voters, among a total of 18,000 Australian surveyed over five years, supported the idea that climate change was naturally occurring

If climate change is not naturally occurring, how did the climate change before us ape descendants started burning fossil fuels? You know, the other 99.99% of the earth's history.... Roll Eyes

Do you believe an massive asteroid smashing into the antarctic or mexico could be an mass extinction trigger.

If yes.
Would that mean a mass extinction couldn't occur without one.

The asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs occurred about 35 million years before the last ice age. Believe me, the two aren't even remotely related.

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